Epic Games Store - the console war comes to PC

[Mustawd]

I don't give a fuck about developers,

I only care as far as ones that make games I like continue to make games I like. Otherwise, as a consumer, idgaf.

 

[Jarpie]

I will say it again: I, and 99% of normal people, will not install another launcher unless it's a real banger of a game, and then I will promptly uninstall it again once I am done with that game.

The only way you can defeat Steam is by somehow permitting Valve to transfer all your games from there to the other thing - without needing to reinstall them. As that will never happen, any development on gay launchers will only increase piracy.

"I love monopolies, I am a retard".

It's true, 99% people are retarded, so maybe you're right that this launcher will fail.

Why use a launcher that lets devs earn more of your money that you paid them? I see no reason, yep. Let's throw a tantrum instead.

we all know how customers were the real winners of the healthy competition between vhs and betamax.

The picture quality between beta and vhs wasn't really that big, there was small difference, but vhs won because the tapes were longer, and it was IIRC cheaper format. Unless the technical quality is higher enough, people will genrally buy cheaper or more convinient product/service.

Because Epic Games' store will have fewer games, it will lose, among with the lack of forums. Steam forums are full of retards but those forums will keep people on steam, and they can work as free advertisement to build up word of mouth hype. Epic Games guys are really a bunch of retards.

 

[J_C]

A few hundred at most out of over ten thousand registered games on steam, so yeah, many if you are referring to a statistical irrelevant value as many. I've already heard that extremely common drm apologist talking piece.

Valve has the same DRM policy as Epic, so if devs choose to put DRM into their game on Steam, you can bet that they will choose to put DRM into their games on the Epic store and vice versa.

 

[Turjan]

A few hundred at most out of over ten thousand registered games on steam, so yeah, many if you are referring to a statistical irrelevant value as many. I've already heard that extremely common drm apologist talking piece.

Valve has the same DRM policy as Epic, so if devs choose to put DRM into their game on Steam, you can bet that they will choose to put DRM into their games on the Epic store and vice versa.

Indeed. This statement was directed at developers. Translate it as "Unlike Valve, we won't offer you any DRM solution for free, but you will have to buy that elsewhere". From the consumer's point of view, it doesn't matter.

 

[ZeniBot]

https://www.pcgamesn.com/epic-games-store-exclusives

The decline right here knows no bounds. Holyshit and I was looking forward to some of those games but now fuck them. As a developer you should be aiming to sell to as many people as possible that would want to buy your game, by shutting off where you can buy it from you're just hurting yourself and taking away customer choice. What in the fuck is the point of exclusivity on PC of all bloody things. Besides they can just under cut the digital distributor entirely and sell direct to consumer Introversion does this all the time.

And you're gonna trust Tencent of all bloody companies. Fucking insane.

 

[Viata]

Ignore them or pirate their games.

 

[udm]

Epic Games store off to a good start: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/a59nlw/epic_games_store_doesnt_want_to_give_me_my_money/

 

[ZeniBot]

Epic Games store off to a good start: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/a59nlw/epic_games_store_doesnt_want_to_give_me_my_money/

Congrats on discovering social media posts are the preferred method for initiating refunds.

Remember kids if someone steals your lunch money, yell at the top of your lungs to every single adult within the vicinity of 20km.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Modern Consumer Affairs everyone.

 

[Dickie]

Any word on whether Knights of the Chalice will be on the Epic store or will they have to agree to host Battle of the Sands first?

 

[GrainWetski]

"I love monopolies, I am a retard".

It's true, 99% people are retarded, so maybe you're right that this launcher will fail.

Why use a launcher that lets devs earn more of your money that you paid them? I see no reason, yep. Let's throw a tantrum instead.

These developers are sounding pretty entitled.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Epic Games store off to a good start: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/a59nlw/epic_games_store_doesnt_want_to_give_me_my_money/

Why would anyone think there would be easy access to refunds on a platform that's anti-consumer?

they actually told him this:

However, I can assure you that everything we buy is unique in its own way and we only have to give it some time to enjoy and I am sure that by the end of the day you will love it!

yikes

 

[slymer]

I ended up buying Ashen off of the Epic Games store, and it took over an hour for it to show up in my library before I could even begin to download it. Then I went to play it again the next evening and I had to wait another hour while it downloaded some update. We'll see what happens next time I try to play it.

 

[Mark Richard]

There are benefits to the consumer in a competitive marketplace, though next to the immediate and obvious downside of having your games library scattered across several digital platforms, such benefits tend to be harder to prove. After all, who's to say Steam wouldn't have pushed out some major hypothetical consumer-friendly improvements regardless of whether Epic Games were around or not?

Convenience is nice, but it's far from the sole reason Steam hasn't been toppled. Its closest competitors Uplay and Origin just aren't on its level in terms of support & features. Steam isn't some kind of unassailable entity. It has a consolidated powerbase that buys them plenty of reaction time, but if Epic Games provide a better service and Steam refuse to adapt, who knows? They could be a threat within a few years.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

After all, who's to say Steam wouldn't have pushed out some major hypothetical consumer-friendly improvements regardless of whether Epic Games were around or not?

We already have GOG though

 

[Mustawd]

Epic Games store off to a good start: https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/a59nlw/epic_games_store_doesnt_want_to_give_me_my_money/

Congrats on discovering social media posts are the preferred method for initiating refunds.

Remember kids if someone steals your lunch money, yell at the top of your lungs to every single adult within the vicinity of 20km.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Modern Consumer Affairs everyone.

As someone who worked in customer service for a decade I can indeed confirm that the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

 

[Alienman]

Satisfactory devs responds with a Q&A.

Lots of bullshitting. It all comes down to that they were payed. We already knew that of course.

(video is also gay)

 

[whydoibother]

Oh boy I can't wait to install another launcher, and give my personal data to another company (owned by the Chinese to boot) and split my library even further.
Software piracy is becoming more and more justified all the time.

 

[J_C]

Satisfactory devs responds with a Q&A.

Lots of bullshitting. It all comes down to that they were payed. We already knew that of course.

(video is also gay)

What the fuck is that on the video?

 

[Viata]

Satisfactory devs responds with a Q&A.

Lots of bullshitting. It all comes down to that they were payed. We already knew that of course.

(video is also gay)

Now they have to pray the game is worth to play it in the next 12 months post release, when it's released on steam. Heh, talk about a bad move.

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Satisfactory devs responds with a Q&A.

Lots of bullshitting. It all comes down to that they were payed. We already knew that of course.

(video is also gay)

Now they have to pray the game is worth to play it in the next 12 months post release, when it's released on steam. Heh, talk about a bad move.

Talk about talking out of your ass. You've no idea how much he was paid.

I'm out of this thread.

 

[J_C]

I'm out of this thread.

 

[Heretic]

Satisfactory devs responds with a Q&A.

Lots of bullshitting. It all comes down to that they were payed. We already knew that of course.

(video is also gay)

OT: Why would you choose someone as off-putting as this to be your public face?

 

[Unkillable Cat]

If I have to install another launcher, that would the launcher of another Bittorrent client so I can give my finger to epic games store while downloading their exclusive games twice. At the same time.

Same.

Anything by EA? Pirate.
Anything by Ubisoft? Pirate.
Anything not offered by either Steam or GoG? Pirate (i.e. Diablo 1).

As people already mentioned, you only own a license to play these games. Not the actual games themselves. It behooves the consumer to pick the platform that has the best chance of surviving if you want to keep your library years into the future. Even if Epic Store has better discounts it might be out of business in a year or so. F that.

Wrong answer, idiots.

The correct answer in situations where the developer/publisher is purposefully screwing you over is Not Buying Or Playing Their Games At All. You know, a boycott.

Pirating a game "out of spite" for a developer is like throwing a childlike tantrum that actually blows up in your face and hurts you.

When you pirate a game you are telling a dev/publisher that they have ample reason to use DRM in their products. What's more, you're telling devs/publishers that you're a Lost Sale - an imaginary concept actually used by marketing/money people to justify certain actions. You know, the "If all those people that pirated the game had actually bought it we would be rich and could afford to not have DRM in our games!!!11"-fallacy that they employ to justify draconian DRM in their games. It's a fallacy because devs don't want to realize that even if they would charge only $1 for their game they still would not get a sale from 90% of the pirates. The "lost sale" argument has even been used to secure funding for future titles.

Boycotting a title and/or studio, however, makes a consumer a No Sale, a different statistic that they cannot use to benefit themselves, or justify any of their actions except 'Stop Being Assholes'.

And I don't want to hear any "But then I can't play muh autism simulator 2019!"-whining about it. If a dev/publisher is being a dick/cunt/hurtful sexual instrument, you don't give them money and you don't give them excuses for further shitty behavior. You just freeze them out. The rules of marketing will take care of the rest. There are tens of thousands of games out there, it shouldn't take you more than five minutes to find another game that you want to play instead. Anything else is childish entitlement.

This is why I boycott all games made/published by Bethesda, and I look down upon anyone that buys or plays their games. Same with EA, Gearbox, Ubisoft, Activision, DICE and some other devs/publishers I can't recall right now. You are supporting the Decliners of the Gaming Industry.

I only support piracy when it's done for the sake of preserving older titles, as that's the only way at least 75% of all video games made in the 20th century have survived to this day. Devs and publishers don't want you to know this BTW, and it's only in the past six years or so that they've realized that there is some money to be made from older titles.

 

[J_C]

Pirating a game "out of spite" for a developer is like throwing a childlike tantrum that actually blows up in your face and hurts you.

It just hurts one's brain when you hear "I fucking hate this new game from developer X, so I'll just pirate it and play it 100 hours." No better way to sound like spoiled child.

 

[Viata]