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Fallout 3 is not in production

Jed

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It would make "sense" from their perspective to hold out on FO3: If indeed they are unable to make any D&D games after 2005, they would want to bust ass to crank out as many of those as they can because of the brand recoginition. After they can no longer publish D&D games, then they would return to their own franchise, which will always be there for them (to exploit).

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The problem is they really don't have any franchises other than SPECIAL. They've pissed off most of the Fallout fans with Tactics and the just-announced Enforcer, which is a fairly (OK, incredibly) stupid move. Since the last good Fallout game was several years ago, even the fan base is slowly dying off. Torn was a bad idea from the start and justifiably canned. Unless Lionheart is something really spectacular, SPECIAL's reputation will be moot.

If that happens, Black Isle's going to have some real fun concocting a new rule set and non-FR setting. Maybe they'll try again to license GURPS. Or, for a good April Fool's joke, they'll license the BEER Engine.

Think about it: Kobolds Ate My Baby! in full baby-eating 3D with pausable real-time. If Interplay marketing droids can't sell that... how the hell did Redneck Rampage get a sequel?
 

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Psilon said:
The problem is they really don't have any franchises other than SPECIAL. They've pissed off most of the Fallout fans with Tactics and the just-announced Enforcer, which is a fairly (OK, incredibly) stupid move. Since the last good Fallout game was several years ago, even the fan base is slowly dying off.
I don't disagree with the fact that they're alienating the FO fan base, but I think that they think that whenever they decide to release FO, the kids, casual and hardcore alike, will pretty much eat it up (especially if'n it's real-time with wikkid mini-gunz and partic0z effectz). Reality will be the ultimate judge of whatever marketing boondoggle Feargut takes BIS on next.

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Don't count on any GURPS games from BIS. From what I've heard, Interplay really pissed off Steve Jackson somehow.
 

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Psilon said:
The problem is they really don't have any franchises other than SPECIAL. They've pissed off most of the Fallout fans with Tactics and the just-announced Enforcer, which is a fairly (OK, incredibly) stupid move. Since the last good Fallout game was several years ago, even the fan base is slowly dying off. Torn was a bad idea from the start and justifiably canned. Unless Lionheart is something really spectacular, SPECIAL's reputation will be moot.

Yup. You know you've done something really, really wrong when you've had a dedicated fan base for a title for six years who REALLY HATE YOU for what you've done with the title. I have to wonder if there aren't marketting textbooks out there that use Fallout as an example of when things go really poorly for your company, because I can't think of another situation quite like it.
 

chrisbeddoes

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They are making


Barbie VERSUS Saddam Fallout tacticks .


And there is a bonus Fallout golf course mini game !!!!!


EDIT !!!!

And of course it gonna be an arcade adventure !!!
And a first person shooter !!!!
And a graphic adventure !!!!
And a scroller !!!!
And a resourses game !!!!
Make sure that Barbie does not forget to reapply
colouring in her hair !!!! Or the world will be lost !!!!
All an all FALLOUT 3 will be a GReAT BIS game !!!!!!!!

/edit !!!!
 

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Yup. You know you've done something really, really wrong when you've had a dedicated fan base for a title for six years who REALLY HATE YOU for what you've done with the title. I have to wonder if there aren't marketting textbooks out there that use Fallout as an example of when things go really poorly for your company, because I can't think of another situation quite like it.

A TV spot with someone saying simply "I fucking hate you all. Buy my product." would probably be more effective marketing than anything Interplay are capable of.
 

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Section8 said:
A TV spot with someone saying simply "I fucking hate you all. Buy my product." would probably be more effective marketing than anything Interplay are capable of.

I'd buy that for a dollar.
 

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Section8 said:
A TV spot with someone saying simply "I fucking hate you all. Buy my product." would probably be more effective marketing than anything Interplay are capable of.

That would certainly come off as less underhanded than how Interplay seems to handle things, that's for sure. After all, I think the underlying message in New Fallout action game for the console is We hate you. Buy it..
 

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Saint_Proverbius said:
After all, I think the underlying message in New Fallout action game for the console is We hate you. Buy it..

It's more like this PC gamers: we hate you, we spit on you and your stupid Fallout license, get lost. Console players: have you ever seen a chick in a g-string with a kewl minigun?
 

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triCritical said:
Rayt said:
I thought BIS was working on 3 titles at the moment: Jefferson, Jackson (BGDA2) and another one (I forgot which president it was). The last one is in pre-production and rumored to be Fallout 3. Or PsT 2.

I am pretty sure that VanBuren is the sequal to Jefferson.

Well, apparantly Chris Avallone is the lead designer on Van Buren, so it might very well be PsT 2 or FO 3. Though after reading the rest of this thread, a sequal to Jefferson makes more sense.
 

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Vault Dweller said:
Saint_Proverbius said:
After all, I think the underlying message in New Fallout action game for the console is We hate you. Buy it..

It's more like this PC gamers: we hate you, we spit on you and your stupid Fallout license, get lost. Console players: have you ever seen a chick in a g-string with a kewl minigun?

That's just plain harsh. Console gamers aren't that stupid, and games like Fallout Enforcer is purported to be just don't sell well at all on the console. The only peoplewho buy games like those are completely brain dead. Console gamers just flock to DOA Xtreme Volleyball for their dose of porn.

Take a look at the Final Fantasy series, Metal Gear Solid series, Grand theft Auto, Animal Crossing, and Splinter Cell. - do any of them have characters in g-string bikinis? Hell no. Console gamers are just as picky as we are, and that's why FOBOS won't sell - despite what Interplay's adolescent marketing staff might think.
 

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Exitium said:
That's just plain harsh. Console gamers aren't that stupid, and games like Fallout Enforcer is purported to be just don't sell well at all on the console.

Well, my bad, then. I never played a console game in my life, and the ones I've seen my friends playing were totally retarded. Don't know the names of these games though. So if you say that console games are not that bad I'll take your word for that and retract my statement. :oops:
 

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Spazmo said:
I'm surprised that BIS is making it. They have no experience whatsoever outside of RPGs.

Considering their work, I'm not too sure about their experience inside RPGs.
 

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Exitium said:
Take a look at the Final Fantasy series, Metal Gear Solid series, Grand theft Auto, Animal Crossing, and Splinter Cell. - do any of them have characters in g-string bikinis? Hell no. Console gamers are just as picky as we are, and that's why FOBOS won't sell - despite what Interplay's adolescent marketing staff might think.

Actually MGS does! I have only played MGS2, but I heard MGS was worse within these respects. I mean just about every other locker you open will have a nice surprise for you.
 
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I played MGS, and really it didn't do that at all. There were bits of suggestive dialogue with some of the female characters, but that was about it. I thought the pinup girls in lockers were just in MGS2, though really they seemed more for humor than anything else.
 

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Exitium said:
Take a look at the Final Fantasy series, Metal Gear Solid series, Grand theft Auto, Animal Crossing, and Splinter Cell. - do any of them have characters in g-string bikinis?

GTA III had prostitutes, though I don't remember exactly what they wear.

GTA: Vice City has, if I remember correctly, bikini women. But that makes sense since they're on a beach.
 

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The GTA3 prostitutes were simply in miniskirts. Besides, it's hard to see much hormone-crazed model detail in pedestrians when plowing through them at 70 MPH. And G-strings in Animal Crossing would be wrong on so many levels...
 

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You didn't play as a prostitute in GTAIII, though, and said prostitutes weren't a major gameplay aspect either, as opposed to FOBOS where the player appears to be a thong wearing babe.
 

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I always wanted to be a G-String wearing babe! I finally get my wish! :shock:
 

Rager_Kaine

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ENOUGH WITH THE G-STRINGS!

Its always about the G-strings with you, Volourn. There are problems in life that can't be solve with G-Strings.

BWAAHAAAHAAAAA! :P
 

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