I think that just built on the end slides for Harold from Fallout 2 that say:
Right, but if you were going to build upon that, is that the route you would have gone? That Harold would now be a large tree in the middle of a grove, worshipped as a tree god? With the option to murder him?
I don't understand people who like FO3 and claim FO4 is retardedly written.
The Lamplighters, the vampire cult, and so on were all incredibly ass in Fallout 3. In addition to the vampire cult, the settlement where the quests start didn't make much sense to me. You look around the Bethesda games with the big raised bridges, very few of them are standing. You'd think the people there would have to scrounge around to live, right? You can't really grow food on top of a bridge. So, I would assume they've noticed most of the other bridges collapsed. So, they continue to live up there? Sure, it's easy to defend since it's up high, but you're all dead once that thing falls anyway.
Can't forget how Fallout 3 canonized aliens and the cthulhu mythos to the setting either.
This is explained very easily.
Little Lamplight is merely one of many examples of the muddled chronology of Fallout 3, which slaps together concepts that would make sense about two years after the nuclear apocalypse with ones that are aiming at two decades post-apocalypse, ones that appear to be about five or six decades later, and ones that actually make sense for the ostensible two centuries that have passed. For the kids in Little Lamplight, imagine that the adults supervising the trip died shortly afterward for whatever reasons, the kids sheltering in the cave managed to scrape by, and as the older kids reached the age of 18 one by one they were exiled by the rest. This could correspond to other elements of Fallout 3, such as edible packaged pre-war food that can be scavenged from ruins, that only make sense if a sharply limited amount of time has passed since the bombs fell. Other aspects of Fallout 3 correspond to greatly varying times relative to the nuclear war, so that for example the main quest about a water-purification device that had been constructed before the player-character's birth would make sense if two decades or so had passed, the back-stories of settlements such as Rivet City and Tenpenny Tower imply perhaps five or six decades have passed, and the development of a faction such as the Brotherhood of Steel requires the full two centuries.
I have a feeling that they planned to have all this stuff in there, or at least most of it, from the very beginning because they can't help themselves but to include all the stuff they just recently acquired, like a little kid on Christmas morning. I would have to think they wanted to set it in Washington, D.C. so they obviously needed to have The Enclave there, right? Because it's the Capitol Wasteland!
I think you're absolutely right about them sliding the timeline around. A sliding timeline explains a lot of the scenarios they present in the Wasteland, particularly those that have existed since early on after the war to when the game has been set in a fairly stable fashion. I'm sure we can ignore the fact that Rivet City probably would have realistically sunk, but it's hard to ignore that someone might have TRIED to sink it. The Lamplight thing is obvious that it wouldn't have lasted for over a decade, let alone two centuries. It really makes no sense that they would kick kids out when they reached 16 and manage to still have a population there. The only thing that would make sense is that this location were a lot earlier in the timeline and the kids should be young adults or kick out adults at an older age.
Leaving "aliens" ambiguous was probably one of the more brilliant ideas in Fallout 2. People think Wanamingos might be aliens, but no one has any idea for sure and it's obvious that if they were alien, they weren't the ones flying the ships that brought them here.
I believe there's an edible fungus you can find in the cave, but it's been decades since I played Fallout 3. The big problem with that is such a special fungus would have taken some time to develop to the point of it being sustainable for a small colony of kids. It would have to develop after the bombs because nothing like that exists now. Also, good luck getting kids to eat something like that in the first place. In the meantime, before the fungus developed, what did they eat?
It wouldn't because it's still illogical. The first Fallout doesn't have giant plot holes, it's a believable and consistent setting.
Nope, Bethesda's people over the years have been saying stuff like how they don't make design documents for their games (Emil said that IIRC). And that they just sit devs around a table and ask if anyone has anything they want to see in the game when someone suggests something Todd usually just says something like "Sure, you do that" (and I think this was said by Todd himself IIRC).
Fo3 goes with the explanation that ghouls are created from radiation alone, rather than FEV + radiation, so a good chunk of the population of Washington was ghoulified during and immediately after the war.
It is obvious that Enclave was crammed into the game quite late in the development.
This doesn't contradict what I say.
