Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder.
What fucking video are you watching? He clearly walks through a rolling gate like all vaults.
Nothing like "Developed by Bethesda Softworks" to lose all enthusiasm for a gameNothing like a plagiarism drama to lose all enthusiasm for a game.
Chateaubryan should definitely check through to gather the evidence and consult a lawyer to see what they say.
Taking inspiration from something isn't illegal but outright copying anything certainly is. Since Bethesda content should be viewable through the construction kit go through and see if there's anything that looks fishy.
One thing is for certain through.
Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder.
EULA's like this are incredibly shaky and if there is any evidence in your favor Bethesda would probably settle with you in court rather than test their EULA's validity.
Chateaubryan should definitely check through to gather the evidence and consult a lawyer to see what they say.
Taking inspiration from something isn't illegal but outright copying anything certainly is. Since Bethesda content should be viewable through the construction kit go through and see if there's anything that looks fishy.
One thing is for certain through.
Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder.
EULA's like this are incredibly shaky and if there is any evidence in your favor Bethesda would probably settle with you in court rather than test their EULA's validity.
Well, to be honest, my only goal with the original post was to raise awareness about Autumn Leaves. Then, if enough people deemed it good enough, build a community that would support any of my future endeavours, and ultimately spend a non-negligible chunk of my miserable life writing for video games, PREFERABLY MULTI-BRANCHING RPGs. (DOCEX LOVE +++) I didn't expect the thing to take off the way it's doing right now. But hey, I started this, might as well take responsibility for a post I thought would never get further than a handful of reads.
Above all, I don't think that being lawsuit-happy will net me any kind of job in the industry. On the contrary. I'm not after a slam-dunk, I'm trying to get some more job as a quest scripter/writer, git gud at writing (let's face it, AL is nice and all, but there's room for improvement, and I'm expecting you guys to call me out on my shit) and get some heavy magnum opus going when I'm older.
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Exactly. I don't know if playing BD would convince me that it has nothing to do with AL, after all, or on the contrary, comforts it even further.
Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder.
EULA's like this are incredibly shaky and if there is any evidence in your favor Bethesda would probably settle with you in court rather than test their EULA's validity.
What are the damages, though? Grats, you'll get a free copy of Fallout 5.Chateaubryan should definitely check through to gather the evidence and consult a lawyer to see what they say.
Taking inspiration from something isn't illegal but outright copying anything certainly is. Since Bethesda content should be viewable through the construction kit go through and see if there's anything that looks fishy.
One thing is for certain through.
Well, whatever you make with their Toolset/GECK is already owned by Bethesda so you're shit out of luck as a modder.
EULA's like this are incredibly shaky and if there is any evidence in your favor Bethesda would probably settle with you in court rather than test their EULA's validity.
Absolutely the right approach. You raise awareness of it/promote yourself. If Bethesderp contacts you, you say 'no harm done, I'm glad someone appreciates my work' then you send them your resume! You're 100% right that suing people for petty damages will get you nowhere fast in the industry versus being cordial and willing to work with them.
Did the Makers of Fallout 4 Rip Off a Member of Its Devoted Fan Community?
A couple of months ago, Bethesda Game Studios released its first major add-on for Fallout 4, its best-selling post-apocalyptic role-playing game. InFar Harbor, players traveled to a fog-drenched island in Maine, running through quests and collecting loot. But one of those quests, “Brain Dead,” looked familiar to fans in the Fallout modding community, which develops unofficial add-ons for theseries.
A few months before Fallout 4’s release, modder Guillaume Veer released “Autumn Leaves” for Fallout: New Vegas, a preferred iteration of the series that many of its biggest fans uphold for the myriad nonviolent ways that players can resolve quests and encounters. In “Autumn Leaves,” players are called to a vault inhabited by robots in order to solve a mysteriousmurder.
Far Harbor, the official DLC put out by Bethesda, features a quest called “Brain Dead,” in which … players are called to a vault inhabited by robots in order to solve a mysteriousmurder.
The similarities don’t end there. In a blog post on ModDB, Veer wrote about many of the similarities. Both quests feature the player discussing high art with one of the robots. In another shared instance, the player has a sexual encounter with one of the bots (these games are, to say the least, weird as hell). A focal point in both environments is a large, two-level atrium with a balcony around theperiphery.
Autumn Leaves.
Brain Dead.
In an interview, Veer said, “I wanted to bring the player out of their zone of comfort. Having them play a non-violent questline where they could exert their deductive abilities … and have their worldviews challenged.” A key part of the mod is that it features ways to resolve the conflict aside from violence — this is a trademark quality of older Fallout games that some have criticized Fallout 4 for forgetting. Altogether, Veer worked on “Autumn Leaves” for four years, alongside composers and voice actors, before the finished product was released in2015.
Veer fully acknowledged that in comparing his mod with “Brain Dead,” he was hardly an impartial party, which is why he made the comparative blog post. While the general premise and a few details of both quests are the same, Patricia Hernandez at Kotaku notes that there are stark differences as well. The backstories for how the robots ended up in a fancy underground vault are completely different, and the pacing for “Autumn Leaves” is much looser, more meandering. Also different: the personalities of the robots within thevault.
So “Brain Dead” is hardly a 1:1 replication of Veer’s work. Bethesda did not respond to emails seeking comment, but yesterday, their VP of marketing, Pete Hines, told GameSpot, “We love our mod community and would never disrespect them. I checked, and any similarities between the two are a completecoincidence.”
Are they though? “It’s common knowledge at this point that Bethesda get regular inspirations from the community’s mods,” Veer noted. Fallout 4’s biggest new feature — a base-building mode known as workshop mode — bears a striking resemblance to “Wasteland Defense,” a mod for New Vegas. The mod RobCo Certified lets New Vegas players create custom robot companions, which is the same premise as Fallout 4’s new Automatron add-on. “Bethesda has a history with modders. They know it, everyone knows it. They capitalized on it,” Veeradded.
For Bethesda to try and set itself apart and claim that the similarities are complete coincidence seems disingenuous. You can’t at once claim to be attentive to your users’ contributions and also create new content in a vacuum. “I made this mod for my portfolio, in hopes that one day I would get a job in the gaming industry. Some recognition would really help me get to that point,” Veer admitted, though he never sounded angry or demanding when discussingit.
At the end of the day, these mods are being built using intellectual property owned by Bethesda, so modders already have a dicey sense of ownership over their work. And is adding new writing or dialogue to a game different from adding new gameplay or mechanics? The answer is unclear. A community feeding off of a developer’s output, and vice versa, is part of what makes these games have staying power for years after their release. It benefits everybody. But is it possible that one side might be benefitting a bitmore?
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