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Fallout Fallout 4 Thread

Sykar

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It is better becuase:

1. Gives you full sentences
2. You can use 1234 buttons insted of arrows to choose

It doesn't fix dialog themselves because they are shit.

I give you the first point but the second is at worst an inconvinience. Glad we are on the same page that dialogue is pure shit at least.

So in other words they have ~100 devs, they make game for 3-4 years on tools they use from Morrowind with their engineers constantly upgrading them, they sell 10mln units just for start which is like 650mln$

AND THEY RELEASE GAME IN THAT STATE WHEN THEY COULD DELAY IT HALF A YEAR AND FIX THOSE BUGS (Like witcher 3 case where they delayed game especially for that purpose which suprise suprise gave them mostly bug free launch for one of the biggest and complex open world games in industry)

So his piece is basically devs being devs. It is not our fault !

At least in Troika case they run on shoestring budget creating and innovating and they simply couldn't delay game where Betsheda can release game whenever they feel like and still rake bilion dollar if not more.

Worse yet this is going on for over a decade and there has been no improvment on Bethderp's part so I am convinced that their mentality is basically "modders will fix it for free for us". Fucking cash whores.
 

Drax

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I found the best Fallout 4 mod ever:

407-0-1447446701.jpg


http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/407/?
 

Perkel

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Isn't Zenimax=Bethesda?

Zanimax is publisher, Betsheda is developer. Yes Zenimax was formed from betheda (i think) but remember we are talking here about people in suits. We also don't know how it is structured since it is private company. So for example Todd may be minor stake holder in company even if Todd and few other had earlier more power.

What we know is how Zenimax destroyed few studios and run shady business practices to aquire IPs and studios whole.

Pray 2 was victim of such case. They tried run down studio and owners basically went full auto on them basically sinking studio completely (and not releasing nearly finished game) just to take revenge on Zenimax and basically described whole Zenimax practice of sinking studios and acquiring them for shitty money.
 

Veelq

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I could ignore even massive bugs and glitches if the game offers briliant story, interesting systems and has alot of replayability. And mods can fix those bugs later. But FO4 has only bugs from that list.
 

potatojohn

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Fallout 4 doesn't have any massive bugs or glitches

Fallout 4 does have interesting systems (settlement management, several factions, power armor, equipment modding, increasing difficulty as you go south, etc)

No game ever had anything that could be described as a "brilliant story", the best of them barely exceed Harry Potter
 

PhantasmaNL

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Anybody fighting with the SuperSledge in power armor?

I encountered 2 legendary "skull" super mutants and killed them relatively easily, on survival difficulty. I noticed later that when in 1st person mode the hammer is shown as 1-handed. The attack animation (short vid) in 1st person is also much faster.

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Monad

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Fallout 4 doesn't have any massive bugs or glitches

Fallout 4 does have interesting systems (settlement management, several factions, power armor, equipment modding, increasing difficulty as you go south, etc)

No game ever had anything that could be described as a "brilliant story", the best of them barely exceed Harry Potter

Settlement management -great idea for fallout, busy work in practice imo
Factions-uninteresting due to bethesda writing
Power armor -i guess not really an ingesting mechanic just a semi cool thing I guess
Modding - biggest draw for me, great in theory, execution sucks imo
Increasing difficulty as you go south - isn't this just the game requiring you to be a higher level as you progress? I'm other words standard rpg design
 

Sykar

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Anyone checked out reviews on YT which were negative about FO 4? Almost all of the universally got lambasted with thumbs down. Them Bethdrones marching straight and hard out of Todds rectum doing his dirty work, such a joy to watch.

:martini:
 

Fairfax

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Anyone checked out reviews on YT which were negative about FO 4? Almost all of the universally got lambasted with thumbs down. Them Bethdrones marching straight and hard out of Todds rectum doing his dirty work, such a joy to watch.

:martini:
I'd like to see that, could you link the videos here? Not doubting you or anything, but I'm going to make one YT review for a friend's project and I'd like to see what to expect. :lol:
 

Gerrard

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I forgot about the amazing mechanic of Bethusduh games where everything respawns after a few days.
 

Sykar

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I'd like to see that, could you link the videos here? Not doubting you or anything, but I'm going to make one YT review for a friend's project and I'd like to see what to expect. :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-tdekcfnbU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3FMC49c0sE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umHJPvvxliU

I just punched in "Fallout 4 sucks" and those were some of the first hits.

"Fallout 4 shit" yielded this for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3MJUKD1xY0

Stumbled upon one which was not as heavily "tumbed downed", but has little views so maybe that's it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm20_WhEajw
 
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Zerginfestor

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Wow, they butchered the Super Sledge too? Was hoping to have it's badass look from 3/NV, now it looks exactly as they described it: Just a hammer with a rocket slapped on the back, because "Reasons". Personally preferred the Super Sledge being some sort of High powered hammer with a kinetic storage thing inside, so when it whacks someone, it would release the energy out and send the enemy flying. Like a....shotgun hammer I guess?
 

Fairfax

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Thanks. They do make it easy for Bethestards by telling that it's shit in the title already, but the same thing will probably happen to mine as well. I don't really care myself, but it's a friend's project, and I think it might upset him. I've warned him already, though.
 

Jick Magger

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Yeah melee has been really gimped in this game. Pretty much 95% of enemies use guns, few that don't pretty much exclusively use shit like pool cues and security batons, with maybe a sledgehammer thrown in occasionally. Unarmed is also pretty much dead on arrival, as you can't use power fists with power armor, and you do so little damage with your bare fists in power armor that you may as well just pull out a pipe pistol to fight with instead. Basically all the legitimately good or fun melee weapons you have to buy, and to top it all off, they don't have anywhere near the same level of modifiability that guns get. Oh, and Deathclaws do have a grab move that instantly kills you regardless of how much health you have, so yeah, pretty much suicide to try and get into melee range of one.
 

Baron

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No one wanted to.


Bethesda watched Conan play in horror and realised, too late, that they made Fallout 4 too cerebral for the vast majority of its players.

:negative:
 

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