Squeenix Final Fantasy VII Remake Integrade - now on Steam

[Tigranes]

Already the kalm flashback is going to be different or even absent because we already got introduced to Sephiroth, know clouds memory aint reliable, that theres this dude called zack who saved cloud and heck even know about fucking meteor. That's like all the big reveals and twists already introduced in some way before the gang even left Shinra tower.

Been watching vids of the game and I am just amazed at how they fucked up the basic narrative structure or eschewed all craft of storytelling in favor of pretty cutscenes that makes normies and cucks jizz their pants. I ain't going to claim ff7 was a masterpiece of plot and storytelling but let's go back to that Shinra tower for an example... Remember the abrupt change of tone in the original after the team is captured and you wake up to find your prison cell unlocked and the corridors filled with blood and bodies, to the tune of creepy music, building up to finding the president's body impaled by a blade? Even without seeing who did it, just by what you saw and the reaction of the characters you knew shit just got real.
Well fuck all of that, now you get to see the president still alive, you even get to see sephiroth (who kills barret but time ghosts revive him because fuck you) with no buildup because hell everyone already knows who he is right? And the tension of this entire sequence is ruined because 5 minutes earlier you were watching a plot dump cutscenes about the ancients.

I expected nothing from this remake and it still manages to make me rage in new and innovative ways, this is the personification of decline in its rawest form.

And yet people will buy it and say it's GOTY. Because they spent 3h killing rats for a dumb quest & watching nonsensical garbage cutscenes.

I mean, there's many people even in this thread that are really really really hoping it'll be OK enough to sink some hours into, even as they know that it will in all likelihood be an empty husk. There's a reason that so many remakes tend to pull in some amount of money & engagement even as everybody knows they will disappoint.

While FF7's overarching story and lore wasn't anything to write home about, I agree that it had a good sense of drama and pacing in its selection & order of key scenes (if not great pacing for the actual game as a whole). Moments like reaching the ice village to get the old prof's records, or seeing what happened to the Gold Saucer town. Or even simple things like the long-take of when your party is descending down the crater in the quiet, wondering what is to come. I imagine all that will just go into the blender for maximum fan service.

 

[Stormcrowfleet]

Already the kalm flashback is going to be different or even absent because we already got introduced to Sephiroth, know clouds memory aint reliable, that theres this dude called zack who saved cloud and heck even know about fucking meteor. That's like all the big reveals and twists already introduced in some way before the gang even left Shinra tower.

Been watching vids of the game and I am just amazed at how they fucked up the basic narrative structure or eschewed all craft of storytelling in favor of pretty cutscenes that makes normies and cucks jizz their pants. I ain't going to claim ff7 was a masterpiece of plot and storytelling but let's go back to that Shinra tower for an example... Remember the abrupt change of tone in the original after the team is captured and you wake up to find your prison cell unlocked and the corridors filled with blood and bodies, to the tune of creepy music, building up to finding the president's body impaled by a blade? Even without seeing who did it, just by what you saw and the reaction of the characters you knew shit just got real.
Well fuck all of that, now you get to see the president still alive, you even get to see sephiroth (who kills barret but time ghosts revive him because fuck you) with no buildup because hell everyone already knows who he is right? And the tension of this entire sequence is ruined because 5 minutes earlier you were watching a plot dump cutscenes about the ancients.

I expected nothing from this remake and it still manages to make me rage in new and innovative ways, this is the personification of decline in its rawest form.

And yet people will buy it and say it's GOTY. Because they spent 3h killing rats for a dumb quest & watching nonsensical garbage cutscenes.

I mean, there's many people even in this thread that are really really really hoping it'll be OK enough to sink some hours into, even as they know that it will in all likelihood be an empty husk. There's a reason that so many remakes tend to pull in some amount of money & engagement even as everybody knows they will disappoint.

While FF7's overarching story and lore wasn't anything to write home about, I agree that it had a good sense of drama and pacing in its selection & order of key scenes (if not great pacing for the actual game as a whole). Moments like reaching the ice village to get the old prof's records, or seeing what happened to the Gold Saucer town. Or even simple things like the long-take of when your party is descending down the crater in the quiet, wondering what is to come. I imagine all that will just go into the blender for maximum fan service.

Personally I had FF7 when it came out, and I was the only one I knew that played it (was the only PS user). I never bought into the overhype and I think all their product outside the real game (such as the movies) are absolute trash. That being said, I think the game itself, when it came out, was a pretty solid console game. Sure it's not game of the century or among my favorite game, but I just feel like it had a good potential of being BETTER notably by being MORE of an RPG. What I see in this is that everything is about filler. Filler for the eyes (cutscenes), for the thumbs (useless thrash mob/dungeons), filler for the brain (PLOT TWIST GOTCHA).

 

[aweigh]

I loved FF7 when it first came out. I was in 7th grade and had just had a terrible day because some girl in science class was getting stuff thrown at her, and she thought it was me doing it and she turned around and slapped me in the face in front of the whole room and everyone laughed. It was very humiliating, and the worst part is the teacher didn't even reprimand her.

I spent the entire day depressed, and the only light at the end of the tunnel was that after school my parents took me to go get my pre-ordered copy of FF7 and I had a blast playing it and forgot all about my school troubles. Good times.

 

[True Ukrainian]

I need a review from someone who played but has basically no memory of the original and whose main concern is whether the game is playable enough to grant distraction from quarantine.

There have been reviews like that already. It's a perfectly average action RPG that has been spread thin with filler.

 

[The Decline]

I loved FF7 when it first came out. I was in 7th grade and had just had a terrible day because some girl in science class was getting stuff thrown at her, and she thought it was me doing it and she turned around and slapped me in the face in front of the whole room and everyone laughed. It was very humiliating, and the worst part is the teacher didn't even reprimand her.

Is this incident what eventually kicked off your years of drug abuse?

 

[aweigh]

Nah, that came later.

ff7remake using BIG BLACK BARRET to intimidate WHITEY lol:

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

The truth is this, JRPGs work better when they try to appeal more to Western audiences while maintaining their stylistic choices. JRPGs become real dogshit when they indulge in the lunacy of anime. I'm not talking Berserk or Vampire Hunter D style of anime where you can at least rock with it still because it focuses on cool shit, I'm talking that anime that makes you feel like you're the only white guy in an Asian restaurant and have no idea what the fuck anything on the menu means.

FF7 Remake here veers into that latter portion of JRPGs. It's one of those games that nerdy as shit white dudes who try to speak Japanese and insist on using the Japanese VA like. It's not a badass game that happens to have a Japanese look to it.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Cloud is such a retard in this, I love him.

Tifa: This is your room. Come in, check it out.

*follows him inside, closes the door*

Cloud: Are you going to pay me or not?

I also like the part when Barret thinks Cloud is scaring Marlene with the "cold killer eyes" so he almost starts a fight with him in front of the kid. He's just satnding there, you crazy jihadist.

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[alighieri]

Love it so far and really dig the reimagining of FF7 fight me

 

[Taxnomore]

Spoiled myself but

Spoiler

If the "Whispers" are manifestations of the players expectations, then Aeris is going to not die.

 

[aweigh]

hey, all of this ff7 remake crap has made me kinda want to play the original game.

i wanted to ask the peeps here: does any version of ff7 have Fast-Foward functionality, like the ff8 and ff9 re-releases do? I checked the steam page for the steam version of ff7 from 2013 and it doesn't list it.

 

[†††]

Love it so far and really dig the reimagining of FF7 fight me

great reimagining indeed, now I can play like the devs originally intended

 

[Lord of Riva]

hey, all of this ff7 remake crap has made me kinda want to play the original game.

i wanted to ask the peeps here: does any version of ff7 have Fast-Foward functionality, like the ff8 and ff9 re-releases do? I checked the steam page for the steam version of ff7 from 2013 and it doesn't list it.

EDIT: I was kinda edging on rule break here with what i said. I did not realize that this was the case at first but that isn't an excuse, hence i edit it out.

Generally on the topic:

When i first heard the news i thought : "hell yeah!" then "oh, no please don't" when i heard action battle system and episodic nature, then i was a little hyped again when i saw the demo it looked pretty fun and it was "pretty faithful" from what i saw so I got a bit optimistic there and then it released and all the story changes were revealed which basically means that i will simply not buy it.

Why can't they just expand on what they have for once and not change everything, hopefully the Seiken Densetsu 3 Remake stays as faithful as the Demo suggests. Im hopeful there again since even the costumes do not bow to the "modern culture" (that somehow is really close to the renaissance) of basically fearing anything that could even closely resemble naked skin on females.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Seems like a desire to have one's cake and eat it.

At some point the decision was made to keep everything in Midgar. Okay fine. But in the original Sephiroth doesn't even show up until the end of midgar sequence, big revelations and plot development are saved for later, the whole intro portion is like a long red herring. Good for part of a game but not a whole game. So Sephiroth is in, Meteor is in, Ancients are in, Zack and flashbacks are in.

Now the game is majorly diverging. Some sperg at Square wants it all to have an explanation. "Uhhhh, time travel." *sigh.*

Gameplay is fun enough. It feels like its hovering between being a true action game and some kind of pseudo-RTwP game. You will actually be punished if you button mash but there's not quite enough dodge- or block-cancelling for it to feel responsive. Materia is neat though, adding new types of attack moves as well as magic. Since the game is balanced around Midgar, you'll actually be able to develop your characters early on. In the original the AP costs were high enough you barely budged in the first disc.

 

[coldcrow]

hey, all of this ff7 remake crap has made me kinda want to play the original game.

i wanted to ask the peeps here: does any version of ff7 have Fast-Foward functionality, like the ff8 and ff9 re-releases do? I checked the steam page for the steam version of ff7 from 2013 and it doesn't list it.

Visit http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php for all your mod needs.

 

[Shaewaroz]

Dem Sector 5 textures. Straight out of PS2 era.

http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020...ious_texture_quality_issue_on_ps4_and_ps4_pro

 

[†††]

Dem Sector 5 textures. Straight out of PS2 era.

They exchanged low poly characters for low poly environments, genius.

 

[Shaewaroz]

Dem Sector 5 textures. Straight out of PS2 era.

They exchanged low poly characters for low poly environments, genius.

You mean like this?

Or this:

 

[Cromwell]

Spoiled myself but

Spoiler

If the "Whispers" are manifestations of the players expectations, then Aeris is going to not die.

wtf?

 

[Shaewaroz]

Wanna see the slowest high five in history?

 

[HansDampf]

Wow, the voice acting is really lame.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

Cloud is such a retard in this, I love him.

Tifa: This is your room. Come in, check it out.

*follows him inside, closes the door*

Cloud: Are you going to pay me or not?

I also like the part when Barret thinks Cloud is scaring Marlene with the "cold killer eyes" so he almost starts a fight with him in front of the kid. He's just satnding there, you crazy jihadist.

If I was Cloud, I would have let Tifa sit on my face right there and then when entering the room

 

[Taxnomore]

Spoiled myself but

Spoiler

If the "Whispers" are manifestations of the players expectations, then Aeris is going to not die.

wtf?

Apparently, there is some meta thing going on in the story.

Spoiler

The game follows heavily the Midgar sequence of the first game with great fidelity. At some point in the games, however, the story seem to divert from the original game but ghostly creatures called "Whispers" put it back on track with the original FF7 storyline.

All, up to the final scene where significant changes happen, and while they go back on track, some things happen that make you think that there could be major differences in the next games.
You hear Sephiroth saying something to the effect of "From now on, everything that happens hasn't happened already.". And the game closes with a screen saying "The unknown journey will continue".

It's pretty clear that there is some meta thing about how the development team wants to explore other directions but expectations of the public drive them to redo the same story ; the last message, however, look like a warning and them telling us that they're going to do a different story.

IOW : they might be pulling a reverse MGS2.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Or this:

Honestly I don't see the issue with that second one.

 

[Blink]

The truth is this, JRPGs work better when they try to appeal more to Western audiences while maintaining their stylistic choices. JRPGs become real dogshit when they indulge in the lunacy of anime. I'm not talking Berserk or Vampire Hunter D style of anime where you can at least rock with it still because it focuses on cool shit, I'm talking that anime that makes you feel like you're the only white guy in an Asian restaurant and have no idea what the fuck anything on the menu means.

FF7 Remake here veers into that latter portion of JRPGs. It's one of those games that nerdy as shit white dudes who try to speak Japanese and insist on using the Japanese VA like. It's not a badass game that happens to have a Japanese look to it.

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