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Editorial Fun with plagiarism at Gamer's Hell

Killzig

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Walks with the Snails said:
I just checked out Alexa, too. Why is it always the lurkers who hold such deep animosity towards our happy family? :lol: Passive-aggressive twit.
Heh, that reminds me of this little bit that was brought to my attention...
Urbane Dictionary said:
killzig
"kill-sihg"
A forum bitch who thinks he is king shit, singular, feminine.

You are a fucking killzigian whore.

a total fag who thinks his shit dont stink

Killzig had the impression that he is better than you.
Funny shtuff.
 

triCritical

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XJEDX said:
I had never heard of this "Alexa" thing, so I looked it up. I searched for our site, and here is the "stats":

RPG Codex - putting the 'role' back in RPG
Avg.User Review: 1 out of 5 stars


Amusing how some people continually confuse quanity for quality. Also funny how some people think that a hobby-enthusiast is somehow a lower lifeform than a hack. I'm glad no one is P41D! to do this site, that's why its bullshit-to-information ratio is so good.

This has Bioware Fanboy written all over it. Afterall only a Gamer's Hell reader, or Bioware fan would be stupid enough to install buggy spyware product like that. BTW, for all the people that Alexa, get Ad-Aware, its free and it removes spyware.
 

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Considering the only point they make is that this is a hobbyist site, I think we can safety conclude that it was Mr. Dennis Scrotum of Gamer's Hell that wrote that review. After all, he's the only one here who gives a shit about getting paid and thinks Alexa is pretty neat.

Fatbabies wrote a large rant about Alexa and Ubisoft a while back. Click me!

Here's the best part about Alexa:

Fatbabies said:
Now, I'm not sure if you have ever heard of Alexa--it wouldn't surprise me, no one has--but this is one of the dumbest moves ever seen. Please allow me to introduce you to the 116th website IN THE WORLD, according to them:

Alexa.com

The page consists of almost nothing, and yet it's being shown as 116 amongst all webpages in the world. And Ubi Soft wants to use this system. Anyone who isn't fond of spyware won't install this software, so that leaves a majority of many readers not accounted for. Not only that, the system is flawed, while they say they base on past records of 3 or so months, I've seen it jump hundreds of thousands of spaces with no difference in traffic. Sites can also attack others in reviews (check out GameRankings.com, Gamersmark.com staffers lowered their score when they were booted from GR's database due to several complaints). While I have no problems with companies limiting who they give coverage to, as they should limit it, this just seems extremely odd and makes one wonder if some cash was involved. It blows my mind that a company would actually use this flawed system.[/url]

Yeah, I'd really be bragging a lot about being high up on Alexa.

PS. Note the part about sites attacking other sites in reviews to lower their standings.
 

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1. Mayhem Studios made a mistake by copying and pasting the responses to interview questions across multiple interviews and not double checking.

2. GamersHell made a mistake by not properly proof-reading the interview before posting it and following up with the interviewee for clarification.

3. Saint_Proverbias made a mistake by jumping to the conclusion that GamersHell stole his interview and immediately proceeded to attack their staff via email and posting the exchange in a thread on RPGCodex.

4. After a lot of immature behaviour (on the part of both GamersHell and Saint_Proverbias), the source of the problem was identified and GamersHell updated their site, removing the sections to which Saint_Proverbias objected.

5. Days later, this thread is still active, blazingly referring to GamersHell as a site that plagiarises the work of others.

Smooth.

If SP wishes to be considered a professional journalist this thread should be deleted or its title should be changed to something more accurate like "Misunderstandings between RPGCodex and GamersHell" or "SP and Joys of Jumping to Conclusions".


N.
 

triCritical

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Nomad said:
If SP wishes to be considered a professional journalist this thread should be deleted or its title should be changed to something more accurate like "Misunderstandings between RPGCodex and GamersHell" or "SP and Joys of Jumping to Conclusions".

The title is accurate as hell and should stay. People here are having fun with plagiarism, pretty simple concept. SP and GH have let it drop but that does not mean the rest of us have to let it drop as well. After all, whether intentional or not Gamer's Hell plagiarised and its simple as that. Just because someone does not know they are not plagiarising does not mean they are not doing it. The had an idea that was not there own and they tried to pass it off as if it was, and I am no lawyer, but that is usually illegal. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the rules.
 

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Saint_Proverbius said:
Considering the only point they make is that this is a hobbyist site, I think we can safety conclude that it was Mr. Dennis Scrotum of Gamer's Hell that wrote that review. After all, he's the only one here who gives a shit about getting paid and thinks Alexa is pretty neat.

You are absolutely correct. I'm an elite hacker and I've haxx0red Alexa.com into posting my review as dated on 7/24/03. I've also decided not to use my good name, and signed it as Crovax. PH33R ME MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Honestly, how many times did I say that you're a dumbass? Well, just said it again.
 

Killzig

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Dennis S. said:
Saint_Proverbius said:
Considering the only point they make is that this is a hobbyist site, I think we can safety conclude that it was Mr. Dennis Scrotum of Gamer's Hell that wrote that review. After all, he's the only one here who gives a shit about getting paid and thinks Alexa is pretty neat.

You are absolutely correct. I'm an elite hacker and I've haxx0red Alexa.com into posting my review as dated on 7/24/03. I've also decided not to use my good name, and signed it as Crovax. PH33R ME MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Honestly, how many times did I say that you're a dumbass? Well, just said it again.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE DONE HERE, DUMBASS.
 

Ausir

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Saint_Proverbius said:
Dennis S. said:
It looks like GamersHell has decided that rather than write interviews on their own, they've decided to cut and paste interviews from other sites and call it theirs.

Perfect English, right? I'd suggest to stop being so anal about 'u's in our articles, or at least check the quality of your news beforehand.

Actually, that is perfect English. Scary you don't recognise it when you see it.

Actually, repeating "has decided" and "they've decided" is not :).
 

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You are absolutely correct

You're a dumbass

I'm an elite hacker

Hi I'm Raymond nice to meet you

I've also decided not to use my good name,

Your names not good anyway


So your that big evil gay clown that I use to have nightmares about?

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I hate you now and I hope your website fucking burns in blam hell, you piece of shit.

Oh yeah and your fucking design sucks too

Honestly, how many times did I say that you're a dumbass? Well, just said it again.

You're not to good at english are you?
 

Volourn

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Geez.. All this over an misunderstanding. 'Tis a shameful day to be human. :cry:

P.S. Just like almost every day. :oops: :wink:
 

Raymondo

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Volourn said:
Geez.. All this over an misunderstanding. 'Tis a shameful day to be human. :cry:

P.S. Just like almost every day. :oops: :wink:

Hey its not everyday I get to swear 3 times in the same post, oh wait it is. :roll:

WOW a whole 3 times I'm so cool :?
 

Crazy Tuvok

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I love this thread. I hope it never dies.
this, the Gaider threads and the moron threads entertain me everyday.
 

triCritical

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Crazy Tuvok said:
I love this thread. I hope it never dies.
this, the Gaider threads and the moron threads entertain me everyday.

I love bashing Bioware as well. And I have an oath of fealty to bash them until the rags take there games for what they are, BAD!!!!
 

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Nomad said:
If SP wishes to be considered a professional journalist this thread should be deleted or its title should be changed to something more accurate like "Misunderstandings between RPGCodex and GamersHell" or "SP and Joys of Jumping to Conclusions".
I think this is the disconnect: Saint doesn't want to be a professional journalist. This is his house, and he wants to be a grumpy old man who walks around in his underwear and slippers screaming at the TV and the neighbors and posting kooky signs in his window. The reason most of us are here is because we enjoy being a part of all this. Don't hang around someone's house if you don't like them or their holey underwear.
 

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Holy underwear! Genuflect at the sacred relic, the Boxer Shorts of Saint Proverbius! +1 against... well... something. Cuevas perhaps?
 

chrisbeddoes

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XJEDX said:
Nomad said:
If SP wishes to be considered a professional journalist this thread should be deleted or its title should be changed to something more accurate like "Misunderstandings between RPGCodex and GamersHell" or "SP and Joys of Jumping to Conclusions".
I think this is the disconnect: Saint doesn't want to be a professional journalist. This is his house, and he wants to be a grumpy old man who walks around in his underwear and slippers screaming at the TV and the neighbors and posting kooky signs in his window. The reason most of us are here is because we enjoy being a part of all this. Don't hang around someone's house if you don't like them or their holey underwear.


Mayby the motto of the site should be changed from
putting the role back in rpg to

Misunderstandings between ( real time, Chuck Cuevas, Bioware,Interplay, Morons , Noobs) on the one side and Saint on the other side.
 

Sol Invictus

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You know, if this were Duck & Cover, some tight-assed moderator might have locked this thread already and not have allowed it to digress thus far, but I'm not a tight-assed moderator and in fact, spend a small portion of my time in real life behaving like a complete psychopath whenever someone edges the skin of my emotions.

(How gothic was that sentence? No, I'm no goth; merely a well-versed individual.)

In any case, bearing the fact that I'm not that sort of person, I'll leave this thread to pursue its natural course in memetic evolution and allow it to go extinct by itself when it does. If it does not, so be it. It'll be one of those 'classic threads which' we could all reflect fondly upon in memory, right before we post our next reply to add to it.
 

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Yep, it's fun to observe natural evolution of threads withouit any outside interference. If you look carefully you notice how they adjust in order to survive: some recycle the same argument, some change topics every page, some attract assholes and morons to feed on them :lol: Nature is so beautiful :D
 

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A forum thread resembles a pre-designed fractal. It has some semblence of reason to it, at first, and the earliest fractals will bear a strong similarity, if not a near total similarity to the original fractal, but as time progresses, the thread causes residuals, and deviants, some of which may not bear any resemblence to the original fractal at all, save for a few features. I wonder how the result of this fractal's evolution will turn out to be.
 

chrisbeddoes

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I want this thread to be locked.

And preserved at the same time .


I think that rpgcodex really needs a way to preserve funny threads like that .
 

Psilon

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We don't delete any threads here. "Heeeeellpp" is still available, for instance. Or do you mean a sticky "hall of infamy" link thread?
 

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I was thinking a list of people we've alienated would be kinda cool with links to the relevant bits...
 

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