Gloomwood - Thief-ish stealth horror game from New Blood Interactive - now available on Early Access

[Child of Malkav]

 

[Zombra]

I didn't even realize what I was looking for for a second. I love so much how far they are going to integrate the UI into the game world. What's that word they keep using?

 

[Ghulgothas]

I didn't even realize what I was looking for for a second. I love so much how far they are going to integrate the UI into the game world. What's that word they keep using?

Diegesis/Diegetic. The presentation of UI elements as existing in-world rather than part of a hud or interface.

 

[ciox]

Be stealthy, wear a glowing ring, makes sense.

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Be stealthy, wear a glowing ring, makes sense.

It only glows when you are not in stealth.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Be stealthy, wear a glowing ring, makes sense.

It's only for the player to see. It glows in the light not in the dark.

 

[Inspectah]

Some funky fisheye going on there

 

[Nifft Batuff]

Only two states.

 

[Curratum]

This is a perfect example of wasting development time on "cool, immersive features" instead of working on your AI and granularity of alert states and detection.

I'm dumbfounded they spent literal MONTHS to implement the suitcase inventory from RE. Thief was amazing without MUH IMMERSIVE INVENTORY.

I don't understand why time and effort and money is being spent on dumb "immersive" bullshit when it should be used to work on the mechanics, architecture, levels, AI and interactions. Don't get me wrong, the demo was nice but it was no Thief, it's pretty fucking far from it in terms of granularity and mechanics.

Then again, with Szymanski on the project, I expect to see a lot more soyboy idiocy injected in what could have been a better game.

 

[Bad Sector]

I don't understand why time and effort and money is being spent on dumb "immersive" bullshit

I do not see why it is hard to understand: some people, most likely the developers included, like that "immersive bullshit", so they consider it as important as the other stuff you mentioned.

Personally i am not a fan, if anything, i see most UI/HUD elements as a representation for your character's senses, like pain, alertness, a sense of surroundings, etc - ie. i do not see having a little 'alertness level' icon above an NPC's head as my character actually looking such an icon, but a representation for being able to read subtle body/face movements and aural cues that are hard or impossible for the game to communicate to the player - especially for games where the character's skills are supposed to be of greater importance than the player's skills. But i do understand them spending time on it because there are other elements i like and would most probably "waste development time" on, given the opportunity - such as physics-based interaction similar to that in Frictional Games' games or seamless interactivity with in-game panels like in Doom 3.

None of those are necessary in a strict sense, but they dress up the game to make it feel better (and yes, you may not consider all the elements of that 'dress up' important, but a game isn't made just for you). Without that sort of dress up, games would be just Excel sheets where you'd type your numbers and calculate the outcome (and i'm sure there are people who like to do just that).

 

[Zombra]

This is a perfect example of wasting development time on "cool, immersive features" instead of working on your AI and granularity of alert states and detection.

I know! They also wasted so much time on graphics. That could have been time spent on AI instead! Also there's music and lighting? What a waste! Could have been a text adventure with sweet AI instead! Also they ordered a pizza one time? They could have spent that money hiring another AI programmer! Because it never makes sense for devs to work on more than one aspect of a game! Game dev doesn't work like that! Just make the one thing I want and nothing else! Me! Me! Me!

 

[gerey]

they spent literal MONTHS to implement the suitcase inventory from RE

Fuck you. The suitcase is awesome, more games should have a RE4-styled suitcase inventory - the world would be a better place.

 

[rohand]

Square lockpick, triangle lockpick, square, triangle, square, triangle.

"Nothing there. False alarm I guess."

Ah memories

 

[Zombra]

Because there hasn't been any news in the thread for months





The official discord is way too spammy to actually get any information from. Has anyone seen a substantial dev blog or somesuch?

 

[Curratum]

The official discord is way too spammy to actually get any information from. Has anyone seen a substantial dev blog or somesuch?

Knowing how the dev likes to spend his time, he's probably spent the last 3 and a half months since the "immersive inventory reveal" tweaking something wildly irrelevant and disconnected from actual gameplay improvement and refinement...

Oh, wait...

 

[HoboForEternity]

so you can just start a level, go poop or cook ramen, and go play the level with some of the lighting dead?

 

[Citizen]

so you can just start a level, go poop or cook ramen, and go play the level with some of the lighting dead?

Pretty realistic isn't it? I was a thief in the era of gas lanterns on the street I'd wait for just before the sunrise when the lanterns are already out of fuel but it's still dark

 

[HoboForEternity]

it could be awesome if they pair it with several guards that's on lighting patrol. they will relit the lights on routine, and if you take them out, it will take care the lights in time.

 

[Curratum]

so you can just start a level, go poop or cook ramen, and go play the level with some of the lighting dead?

Pretty realistic isn't it? I was a thief in the era of gas lanterns on the street I'd wait for just before the sunrise when the lanterns are already out of fuel but it's still dark

This is specifically for fireplaces and open fires, not lanterns.

 

[Morgoth]

so you can just start a level, go poop or cook ramen, and go play the level with some of the lighting dead?

Innovation that nobody asked for.

 

[KazikluBey]

so you can just start a level, go poop or cook ramen, and go play the level with some of the lighting dead?

Most fires don’t decay on their own. This was just to demonstrate that they can change based on usage. I wouldn’t get so caught up on the specifics until you see how it works in-game.

 

[Jedi Exile]

Looks fun. Oh, there is a demo. I'll try it. You can't have too many stealth games.

 

[Child of Malkav]

Episode 10 - Conversation with Gloomwood developer Dillon Rogers @TafferKing451
The Red Tunic Podcast
May 10
60 min
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0kn2SSry87cFFAbeFddNCI?si=Nmh1HJNcQRubTmmnlG-zcw&nd=1

 

[ADL]

release never ever

 

[Curratum]

release never ever

lol, he was replying to me with this one post :D

I'm Snake in this thread.