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[Damned Registrations]

I'm kind of torn on the idea, but I think so. If the game can still be sold 50 years later, that increases the value of any IP that has long lasting value, which DOES go to the hands of the devs, even if the later sales do not. Nobody would want to buy say, Catacomb 3-D, which means it isn't worth shit today. But Doom? There's still people who might feel like Doom is worth paying for. If it couldn't be sold, that would diminish it's value. If Id wants to sell the rights to Doom they should get every penny for it- including what they can speculate sales of the original Doom might be worth.

Of course the suits don't care. Only the net profit made by Doom 5 would matter to them.

 

[Quetzacoatl]

I'm kind of torn on the idea, but I think so. If the game can still be sold 50 years later, that increases the value of any IP that has long lasting value, which DOES go to the hands of the devs, even if the later sales do not. Nobody would want to buy say, Catacomb 3-D, which means it isn't worth shit today. But Doom? There's still people who might feel like Doom is worth paying for. If it couldn't be sold, that would diminish it's value. If Id wants to sell the rights to Doom they should get every penny for it- including what they can speculate sales of the original Doom might be worth.
Of course the suits don't care. Only the net profit made by Doom 5 would matter to them.

If the original devs like say Origin are dead how will the value go into their hands?If you're not referring to my original post then I apologize for being an idiot.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Suppose Bob makes a game. Then Bob wants to retire, and sell the rights to the game to his buddy Tim. The game was fucking awesome, and even though it's old, it still has fans. Now, lets say the ability to make a sequel is worth 100$ and the potential sales are worth 50$. If the game can't be sold once the devs are out of business or dead, those potential sales are only worth 50$ to Bob, but they aren't worth fuck all to Tim. So Tim will only pay Bob the 100$ so he can make a sequel. If the game can still be sold, Tim pays Bob 150$ to make a sequel + keep selling the first game. So Bob (The original dev) gets more money if the game can be sold after he goes out of business. Tim gets more money too (say he makes 100$ of the sales, enough to cover the cost + 50$ of profit), but you can chalk part of that up to continued effective marketing and support, so Tim kinda deserves a slice.

If you go a step further and say it can't be sold except by someone who bought it directly from the devs or if the devs are dead as opposed to out of business, the rights to sell it are worth something in the middle. More than nothing since you can get some sales, but not as much as if you can get sales and then sell them to someone else who can get sales too.

Of course, at some point the benefit to the original dev is trivial (You're not going to pay significantly more for a game that can be sold 300 years later as opposed to 50 years later) and you have to say 'Well fuck the dev, it's better for the property to be free for everyone than to give him .001% more profit.'

 

[Cassidy]

Although ideally copyright laws shouldn't even exist, barring that, all copyright should expire or naturally switch to an open-source license after x decades, x being something between 20 and 50 years depending on how quickly obsolescence kicks in for a given work. For games, which have a very steep descending bell curve sales figure, it should be 20 years. For AAA games and money grabs like DLCs and Expansions, even less.

Fuck the Jewry from Hollywood, big recording megacorps and publishers.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Although ideally copyright laws shouldn't even exist.

 

[Azalin]

GOG just added Ultima 8 to their catalogue,the version includes the speech pask.

Time to witness the beginning of the of the Ultima series

 

[evdk]

$5.99 for Ultima VIII is $5.98 too much and that's me being generous.

 

[SuicideBunny]

ultima 8 is pretty good, actually.

 

[evdk]

It's actually pretty dreadful. Just the jumping sections are reason enough to consign the game to the fiery pits of hell.

 

[Azalin]

I assume tis version includes the patch that fixes those damn platforming parts

 

[Chuck Norris]

New release:
Botanicula

This is the new adventure game by Machinarium makers as already mentioned in the topic and it has received some good scores so far.
Adventure Games: 4.5/5
Gamespot: 8.5/10

 

[catfood]

Does anyone know if Botanicula fits into the "2deep4u premise, 2 hour long gameplay consisting of a couple of gimmicky mechanics, with pretty graphics, for just 9.99!!!" category of indie games, or is it actually worth buying (at 50% off of course)?

 

[evdk]

After 30 minutes of play I would say it's the former. Maybe the gameplay will pick up later, but it doesn't seem like it now.

 

[JudasIscariot]

ultima 8 is pretty good, actually.

At least you had more control over the combat and you didn't have to run around picking up the weapons that your party members dropped just because...

 

[Metro]

ultima 8 is pretty good, actually.

No.

 

[Chuck Norris]

Does anyone know if Botanicula fits into the "2deep4u premise, 2 hour long gameplay consisting of a couple of gimmicky mechanics, with pretty graphics, for just 9.99!!!" category of indie games, or is it actually worth buying (at 50% off of course)?

After finishing the game, I have to say it's exactly the former. You put it right. Has its moments, but definitely not worth 10 dollars.

New release:
Spacechem

 

[ArcturusXIV]

LOL, r00fies, HAHA LMAO you fagz buy old games....Now that we have that out of the way, no need for Skyway to chime in. Let's discuss games you'd like to see on GOG as well. I want the old SSI gold box games for some reason. I have them in 2 or 3 different versions of collections and crap but I want them on GOG. Now, damn it.

System Shock 1/2
Dark Heart of Uukrul
Azrael's Tear
X-Com (?)

 

[JudasIscariot]

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver and Myst V were just released...

 

[Captain Shrek]

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver and Myst V were just released...

 

[JudasIscariot]

ultima 8 is pretty good, actually.

No.

Compared to what we have now, it's a fucking masterpiece.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver and Myst V were just released...

Does this mean that Blood Omen might get a release on GOG? I could never get that fucker to work, and have been hoping for GOG to step in and fix it.

 

[DwarvenFood]

They will fix it with a crack

 

[evdk]

Does this mean that Blood Omen might get a release on GOG? I could never get that fucker to work, and have been hoping for GOG to step in and fix it.

Have you tried this and this?

 

[IDtenT]

Although ideally copyright laws shouldn't even exist, barring that, all copyright should expire or naturally switch to an open-source license after x decades, x being something between 20 and 50 years depending on how quickly obsolescence kicks in for a given work. For games, which have a very steep descending bell curve sales figure, it should be 20 years. For AAA games and money grabs like DLCs and Expansions, even less.

20? More like 5 years with games. Just enough to profit from investment. I'll never buy from GoG something that should be free*.

* The disclaimer here is of course that if they render a service with the game, say make it work on Windows 7 - where it normally would not, then it's fine to sell said service but it shouldn't be priced at the ridiculous levels that it currently is.

 

[Bruticis]

Although ideally copyright laws shouldn't even exist, barring that, all copyright should expire or naturally switch to an open-source license after x decades, x being something between 20 and 50 years depending on how quickly obsolescence kicks in for a given work. For games, which have a very steep descending bell curve sales figure, it should be 20 years. For AAA games and money grabs like DLCs and Expansions, even less.

20? More like 5 years with games. Just enough to profit from investment. I'll never buy from GoG something that should be free*.

* The disclaimer here is of course that if they render a service with the game, say make it work on Windows 7 - where it normally would not, then it's fine to sell said service but it shouldn't be priced at the ridiculous levels that it currently is.

5 to 10 bucks is a ridiculous level?
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Oh, I see, nevermind....carry on.