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Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by toro, Mar 13, 2019.

  1. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    They ran a public beta test months ago with Assassin's Creed and it got stellar reviews, sadly.
     
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  2. Steamboat Willie Savant

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    What I was going to say. Wii sold fast and hard to a bunch of boomers based on a gimmick then basically became a non-player throughout the entire second-half of the 7th gen, and it's attach rate was complete shit - around half of what the 360's was.
     
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    Yeah, but Nintendo was already making money just selling the console whereas the Xbox360 and PS3 at first were sold at a loss or not far from it so had to recoup from game sales/royalties. So even if Nintendo didn't make all the Wii buyers into gamers, they racked in a lot of dosh.
     
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  4. Steamboat Willie Savant

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    They netted short term gains and in return suffered 6-7 years of market irrelevance.
     
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    My experience with the Wii single-handedly killed any further interest in Nintendo consoles I had. That was a Benjamin plus down the drain I really wish I had back.
     
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  7. Grauken Arcane Patron

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    Pretty underwhelming lineup
     
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  8. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    If they launched with all those available for a Disney+ style subscription cost it might be something for the casuals. That short list, with full price purchases only? Super lame effort. Didn't they invest tons of money in this?
     
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    Not a lot of games, but Ass Creed, Destiny 2 and Red Dead 2 are some of he biggest hitter on PC right now. And they have a fairly high system requirements, so many can't even play them. If they run fairly well on this system, it could be a goldmine.
     
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  10. Tiger Learned

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    It will be a goldmine, the casual fuckwits will flock to it.
     
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  11. Garbage Educated

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    Not really, what you need to consider is that most casual gamers play where their friends are. Unless everyone moves to Google STD en masse, then it'll be a gimmick picked up by a million people at best.
     
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  12. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    They'll flock to one or more of these services eventually, absolutely. Not sure it'll be Google's though.
     
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  13. ebPD8PePfC Learned

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    I can't tell if this is an underwhelming list of launch games, or an attempt at a limited public beta. I think it's the latter because the technological challenge is really hard, and that's why previous services failed.
    Gyst is also the first streaming exclusive game as far as I know, which is really sad from a games preservation point of view. It doesn't include any feature that require it to be streamed, so it really is sad, as the game could be lost in the not so distant future for no real reason.
     
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  14. Whipped Cream Learned Patron

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    Microsoft have a lot of competetive advantages over Google. Here's what Microsoft could do to instantly destroy Stadia: During the announcement of the next-gen Xbox, announce that if you are subscribed to Xbox Game Pass Ultimate then for any game on Game Pass and any next-gen Xbox game you own you can switch freely between playing it in one in four ways: 1. Natively on your Xbox, 2. Natively on Windows 10, 3. Stream it on your Xbox through xCloud or 4. Stream it on any Windows 10 or Microsoft Edge-capable device through xCloud. Furthermore you can switch freely between devices and between native or streaming and your save game carries over (but you can't play on two different devices at the same time obviously).

    They'd have to bolt shut the windows at Google Stadia's HQ to keep people from jumping.

    Of course, Microsoft have a long history of missing open goals and doing stupid shit, so I give them a 50% chance of completely fucking up xCloud just like Google are fucking up Stadia.
     
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  15. Jimmious Arcane Patron

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    I'm curious to see how this will work out now that the public will actually get its hands on it
     
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  16. baud Cipher Patron

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    It depends on how it's implemented, if all the MP games can have the player on Stadia with those playing on their consoles/PC, it could work. Of course it depends on what Google has decided for that, but for that particular point, it would be dumb not to implement cross-play, as it would remove the chicken-egg issue for MP games (no-one's playing MP games on Stadia, so I won't get that MP game on Stadia, so no-one's playing MP games on Stadia and so on). And of course it's only one particular issue that Google had to solve for STD to be successful.
     
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  17. Modron Arcane

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    Willingly playing a streaming multiplayer game, just imagine the latency kek.
     
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  18. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    MS sets out to do it, xCloud's preview now has more games than Stadia in soft launch: https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2019/11/14/expanding-project-xcloud-more-games-more-ways-to-play/

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    Also it will make use of existing purchases and Game Pass in some form:

     
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    Even if they are dumb enough to try it, it will only last a few days. Then they'll find out about data caps.
     
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  20. ebPD8PePfC Learned

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    That's not really relevant for most of the gaming world. China and Japan don't have data caps, and they are both heavily invested in mobile gaming, for which Stadia is a natural fit. South America has high import fees for electronics, with some horror stories coming out of Brazil, which could be circumnavigated by streaming. As far as I know data caps are only a relevant factor in the US and India. I can't think of another major gaming market that has this problem, though I'm sure that I'm missing some countries.
     
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  21. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Lots of people in the U.S. (and I presume Europe) have no caps. There's a reason streaming video is taking off like a rocket.
     
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    Microsoft's last announcement made Google realize something:

     
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  23. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    MS should get all those games for Gamepass immediately and make them all accessible through Stadia's launch and into the new year. That's what I'd do.
     
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