Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[Haba]

With 100 spell casting skill and 90+ WIL, you can cast max level eldritch spells with 95% success rate. Hope that helps!

WIL helps to cast spells?

Aeorb Sage, 100 Arcanum, 100 Sorcery

Deadly Blades at Power Level 7 (MAX)

1 INT
1 WIS
1 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
!! Backfire !!
Success!
Success!

100 INT
1 WIS
1 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

1 INT
100 WIS
1 WILL

Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

1 INT
1 WIS
100 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
*Fizzle*
Success!
Success!
Success!

100 INT
100 WIS
100 WIL

Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

Conclusion? Fuck if I know.

 

[Gunnar]

Is there any way to replenish SPIRIT other than resting at a shrine? Is there any way to defend against the undead fear aura?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Is there any way to replenish SPIRIT

Imbibe spirits. Beer, Vodka etc.

 

[Dorateen]

Is there any way to replenish SPIRIT other than resting at a shrine? Is there any way to defend against the undead fear aura?

A power level 1 Bless spell will restore Spirit.

Except for necromancers. They will need to cast Cerebral Shield on themselves to restore the Spirit Bar.

Also, unless this changed, resting at a safe haven replenishes Spirit.

 

[Gunnar]

Is there any way to replenish SPIRIT other than resting at a shrine? Is there any way to defend against the undead fear aura?

A power level 1 Bless spell will restore Spirit.

Except for necromancers. They will need to cast Cerebral Shield on themselves to restore the Spirit Bar.

Also, unless this changed, resting at a safe haven replenishes Spirit.

Thanks, it works great. I hadn't used Bless since the very beginning. Pretty sure I was just at a safe haven in the Tomb of Doom and it wasn't giving me spirit back.

 

[Lady_Error]

With 100 spell casting skill and 90+ WIL, you can cast max level eldritch spells with 95% success rate. Hope that helps!

WIL helps to cast spells?

Aeorb Sage, 100 Arcanum, 100 Sorcery

Deadly Blades at Power Level 7 (MAX)

1 INT
1 WIS
1 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
!! Backfire !!
Success!
Success!

100 INT
1 WIS
1 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

1 INT
100 WIS
1 WILL

Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

1 INT
1 WIS
100 WIL

*Fizzle*
Success!
*Fizzle*
Success!
Success!
Success!

100 INT
100 WIS
100 WIL

Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!
Success!

Conclusion? Fuck if I know.

Good experiment, thanks.

It shows that INT, WIS and WIL have some influence on spell casting, but not too much since even with no points in them leads to success 3 out of 5 times.

 

[Haba]

Someone with proper autistic inclination could probably demystify the whole thing by doing large enough sample size.

 

[Gunnar]

Asmodeus attacked me even though I didn't take any treasure. I'm assuming this is because I cast knock-knock on his locked treasure chests?

 

[Lady_Error]

How can you enter the "evil house" in the Raven Wildes at midnight?

 

[Lady_Error]

I used bonus points from the character creation on HP bonus, either that makes the game too easy or the difficulty have been dumbed down too much (difficulty 3/5) or maybe i should have played on max difficulty ?

Some people whine that it's too hard. Now that you're applying the trick with unarmed combat, it's suddenly "too easy".

Also, the one thing that had to change didn't, the small window in which we're supposed to read a huge amount of text is made for people playing their nose stuck to their screen, that's barely playable for me (playing 2 meters away), i have to get closer for comfortable reading or i can just skip any fucking text (playing in full screen).

Get glasses or binoculars... Or you know, don't play it from 2 meters away - it's not a console game.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Asmodeus attacked me even though I didn't take any treasure. I'm assuming this is because I cast knock-knock on his locked treasure chests?

Exactly! You disrespected him.

Supposed to be very difficult to not steal from Asmodeus while completing his quest.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

How can you enter the "evil house" in the Raven Wildes at midnight?

You have to know the password. Where is it?

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Good experiment, thanks.

It shows that INT, WIS and WIL have some influence on spell casting, but not too much since even with no points in them leads to success 3 out of 5 times.

A response to butthurt cries of MUH BALINSE. Decided that even millennials would be able to succeed with a spell at the lowest level without it fizzling. I actually think that spread looks pretty good and is functioning as intended. Trying to limit the tears of muh spell casting balinse babies who didn't like that at skill levels of 10 you tended to fizzle and backfire an awful lot.

Original Grimoire combat math has been dumbed down to a level where even FelipePepe can enjoy it along with his Pokemon.

 

[Reapa]

Good experiment, thanks.

It shows that INT, WIS and WIL have some influence on spell casting, but not too much since even with no points in them leads to success 3 out of 5 times.

A response to butthurt cries of MUH BALINSE. Decided that even millennials would be able to succeed with a spell at the lowest level without it fizzling. I actually think that spread looks pretty good and is functioning as intended. Trying to limit the tears of muh spell casting balinse babies who didn't like that at skill levels of 10 you tended to fizzle and backfire an awful lot.

Original Grimoire combat math has been dumbed down to a level where even FelipePepe can enjoy it along with his Pokemon.

why?

 

[Lady_Error]

How can you enter the "evil house" in the Raven Wildes at midnight?

You have to know the password. Where is it?

I guess it must be written on something that I need to use there.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Now that you're applying the trick with unarmed combat

I've always used unarmed combat in the beginning, if you read me, i was talking about bonus points added to HP, the HP bloat makes any threat looks trivial if you use classes with low requirements and roll a good bonus.

Get glasses or binoculars... Or you know, don't play it from 2 meters away - it's not a console game.

I'm not complaining, just informing, i stopped my second playthrough after clearing aquavia, maybe i'll try it again in 20 years when V4 is released or maybe i'll just keep playing something else.

 

[Jazz_]

Ok maybe I'm

but how do I get inside the two dungeons in the Gardens of Midknight?

 

[Dorateen]

how do I get inside the two dungeons in the Gardens of Midknight?

Keep exploring.

 

[Replicante]

Ok maybe I'm

but how do I get inside the two dungeons in the Gardens of Midknight?

To open the Cenotaph of the Black Lich you need something from the Catacombs. Afterwards you can think about going to the tomb of St George
Alternatively if you want me to be more specific I can add the info with a spoiler tag

 

[Lady_Error]

Ok maybe I'm

but how do I get inside the two dungeons in the Gardens of Midknight?

http://grimoire.wiki/index.php/Puzzles (Spoilers, obviously)

 

[Lady_Error]

A proper autist from the Steam forums came up with these numbers:

LATEST EXPERIMENTAL DATA ON LEVEL UP GAINS:

On Level Up:

• HP gains are 100% class-based.
• VIT gains are 100% attribute-based (CON attribute).
• Mana gains are mostly attribute-based (DEV attribute), but do have some minor adjustments for class.
• Attribute gains are 100% class-based.

None of these are impacted by the race/class bonus multipliers (or by the race itself). They also are not affected by being dual-classed (unlike what I thought previously).

HITPOINTS

Approximate average HP gain per level for each class:

18.0 - Berserker 16.5 - Warrior

13.5 - Pirate, Jester, Templar, Ranger

9.5 - Bard 8.5 - Metalsmith 8.0 - Assassin 7.0 - Thief

6.0 - Thaumaturge 5.0 - Cleric, Wizard 4.0 - Sage, Necromancer

VITALITY

Vitaltiy gains are CON-based. Vitality gain on level up is approximately equal to:

12.5 + (CON * 0.75)

MANA

Mana gain on level up is mostly DEV-based (devotion). I'm not sure of the exact mechanics, but you receive almost exactly 50% more MP at 80 DEV than you do at 40 DEV.

Pure mages definitely have a broader range of results than fighter types, but in terms of average MP gain, there is less difference than you might exepct.

At 40 DEV, the average gain for most classes is 10 MP per level.

Pirates and Jesters were slightly lower, around 9 MP per level. Sages, Thaumaturges and Clerics were closer to 10.5 MP per level. Necromancers were closer to 11.5 MP per level. Wizards were closer to 12.5 MP per level.

(I did enough trials that most of these numbers should be accurate, but it's always possible that I had unexpectedly lucky/unlucky results for some class.)

ATTRIBUTES

For the three fixed attribute gains on level up:

• The five mental-skill dominant classes (the pure mages including Cleric) gain only INT, WIS, and DEV. They gain in all three stats every level!

• The three physical-skill dominant classes (Thief, Ranger, and Bard) receive the majority of their points in CON, WIL, and FEL. They also receive some points in INT, WIS, and DEV. They never get points in the other stats.

• Most of the martial-skill dominant classes (Berserker, Warrior, Pirate, Templar, and Metalsmith) receive their points across all attributes, but with slightly more in AGI, SPE, and STR.

Finally, Assassin and Jester (who also have the highest overall skill point yields) receive their points truly spread out across all attributes.

Included in: http://grimoire.wiki/index.php/Professions#Levelup_mechanics

 

[Dorateen]

Oracles help, but they're few and far between and they run out of oracle juice eventually.

Mainly from oracles, as far as I am aware. Just hold onto those items you missed Super ID-ing earlier, and use them on the next oracle you come across. Also, I believe you can show items to NPCs you meet, and there are some that will be fully identified (scribing an entry in the journal) in this fashion. And cast the Super ID spell before you open up a treasure chest, so that new discoveries will be recorded.

 

[Haba]

Is there any way to Greater Identify, or whatever it's called, items that you've already identified? Those quest log descriptions tend to be very helpful, but my sage usually assays things on pickup, gets the basic info, and then I can't seem to identify things further to get the real data. I tried casting the spell and then clicking on an item, tried dragging it on the magnifying glass, tried dropping it on the floor then picking it up - didn't work. Oracles help, but they're few and far between and they run out of oracle juice eventually.

Cast Improved Identify and assay the item again. It does work. Click the assay screen to see if you have already superid'd the item, sometimes they don't have descriptions. If all else fails, drop the item and pick it up again.

If it doesn't work then chances are that you are a nasty poo poo who is playing a pirated version. Make sure your game is updated.

Also, I seem to have found a bug or at least a way to cheese the system. Found a tome of arcane magic, cast read magic on my dude, tried scribing it - it didn't work but his arcane skill increased. I shrugged and kept trying, the skill kept increasing. As a result, I went from like 10 arcane to 70 in 3 minutes just by clicking on a book.

Working as intended. How do you think we got our swimming up to 100?

I mean the "downside" for increasing your skill like that is that you go insane. And your character goes insane, too.

 

[Gunnar]

Is there any way to Greater Identify, or whatever it's called, items that you've already identified? Those quest log descriptions tend to be very helpful, but my sage usually assays things on pickup, gets the basic info, and then I can't seem to identify things further to get the real data. I tried casting the spell and then clicking on an item, tried dragging it on the magnifying glass, tried dropping it on the floor then picking it up - didn't work. Oracles help, but they're few and far between and they run out of oracle juice eventually.

Cast Improved Identify and assay the item again. It does work. Click the assay screen to see if you have already superid'd the item, sometimes they don't have descriptions. If all else fails, drop the item and pick it up again.

If you drop an already identified item onto the Assay icon while you have Improved Identify cast, you can click the assay window to get a *superid* window which gives some extra information about items, which I didn't know about, but it doesn't give you the Quest Journal update like you get when you assay a totally unidentified item with Improved Identify cast. I can't see any way of getting the Journal update from an item through the spell once you have it identified normally. Dropping it and picking it up doesn't return an item to an unidentified state.

 

[Lady_Error]

Is the Super-ID info different than the item description you get by dragging an item onto the Look icon (not Assay)?