Grimoire Thread

[AbounI]

Seriously? Felipe banned from Cleve's forum for saying what he thinks of the unbalanced combat? I can't believe that
Vault Dweller didn't act like that on the AoD steam forum (remember that troll?) cause after all he bought the game. Cleve should take exemple on that.
I would suggest to ban Cleve from the Dex.
#I am Felipe

 

[vdweller]

First of all you need to understand object oriented programming.

Not really necessary. Many older games were written in languages that had fuck-all to do with OOP.

I'm not saying that what you write afterwards is wrong, I'm just broadening a somewhat restrictive introduction.

 

[Snorkack]

Cleve, dont refund anybody who spent almost 80 hours in game got their INCLINE treatment dose and now want their money back. It is not fair

But if Cleve revokes Felipe's steam key so he can't play Grimoire any more wouldn't he legally be required to give a refund?

Is that even a thing? I'm 99% sure the whole 'revoke steam key' is something completely made up by cleve.

 

[cavistus]

who else is here to just watch this trainwreck

 

[Lord Andre]

Is that even a thing? I'm 99% sure the whole 'revoke steam key' is something completely made up by cleve.

It gives me no pleasure to agree with my hated enemy here but I too believe that to be an empty threat.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Cleve, dont refund anybody who spent almost 80 hours in game got their INCLINE treatment dose and now want their money back. It is not fair

But if Cleve revokes Felipe's steam key so he can't play Grimoire any more wouldn't he legally be required to give a refund?

Is that even a thing? I'm 99% sure the whole 'revoke steam key' is something completely made up by cleve.

Oh man...SHHHH! Or he's gonna revoke your Steam Key so hard, your kid's kids won't be able to play Grimoire!

Zep--

 

[Snorkack]

Who are you and why am I your hated enemy? nevermind.

In other news: it seems that the steam thread discussing why felipepepe's thread has been deleted has been deleted.

 

[Zep Zepo]

Who are you and why am I your hated enemy?

In other news: it seems that the steam thread discussing why felipepepe's thread has been deleted has been deleted.

Of course it has been deleted. Cleves gone FULL RETARD in his latest meltdown.

ProTIP: Cleve...Never go FULL RETARD!

Zep--

 

[vdweller]

Cleve, dont refund anybody who spent almost 80 hours in game got their INCLINE treatment dose and now want their money back. It is not fair

But if Cleve revokes Felipe's steam key so he can't play Grimoire any more wouldn't he legally be required to give a refund?

Is that even a thing? I'm 99% sure the whole 'revoke steam key' is something completely made up by cleve.

I believe you can ban Steam keys from the Steamworks control panel. This is mainly used for preventing fraudulent use (like: I am a reviewer gimme 3 keys for me and my colleagues to make a review). Never have I heard it being used for butthurt control.

 

[Viata]

Who are you and why am I your hated enemy? nevermind.

In other news: it seems that the steam thread discussing why felipepepe's thread has been deleted has been deleted.

Someone should make a thread asking that.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

One valid complaint from Cleves perspective.

20 years removed retrospective two sentence summary of a game experience (arcanum blurb) is not equivalent to preemptive advice to avoid a current release.

The aftertaste is that of ground axes on all sides which can't really be surprising, but it didn't have to happen. Pretty sure cleve sees his reaction as reciprocal.

 

[felipepepe]

Avoid =/= wait.

And, again,this could all be avoided if he had been honest and released it in Early Access.

 

[Doctor Sbaitso]

You are missing the message.

 

[Joined on the 4th of July]

Can't wait for Matt Chat.

 

[Mech]

If anyone bought Grimoire expecting a balanced game, you yourself went full retard already.

 

[vdweller]

 

[Rick]

Just a quick question - are WORMS supposed to inflict Disease every time they do damage?

Okay, a second quickie - If I Charm something, do the other characters know enough not to target it with anything?

 

[Roguey]

Having the edgelord opinion of "this is an unfinished early access game" is only permissible if you felt the same way about Torment: Tides of Numenera, Tyranny, Pillars of Eternity, Wasteland 2, and Divinity: Original Sin in the first few weeks of their release.

One could say that certain fully patched well-regarded RPGs never left their unfinished early access state (everything Troika made, kotor 2).

 

[Morkar Left]

Felipepes summary after actually FINISHING the game sounds fair and without bad intentions. Even regarding from posts here on the site regarding gameplay mechanics it seems obvious that the game is finishable but not consistent or fully developed regarding its gameplay mechanics (balancing or outrigt nonfunctional).
Cleves' reaction to Felipepe is like from a butthurt child. I guess I'm letting this game pass because I'm not optimistic anymore that it will be substantially improved and bugs ironed out. A shame but life goes on.

 

[Viata]

Spoiler

 

[felipepepe]

Cleve's right, all that was required of him was to release Grimoire on May 2013, then send me a "complete game on DVD with hardback printed manual of 100+ pages plus a softcover hint guide and total solution for the game of 100+ pages and large map poster shipped worldwide. All this plus a soundtrack CD of all music from the game."

Still waiting on those.

 

[DashiDMV]

If you look closely, you can see the wheels behind the wheels.

Felipepe has obviously been captured and reprogrammed by the Forces of Decline. Why you ask? Because just a short time ago Grimore was on the fast track to #1 on the next Codex best rpg list. Avellone and Sawyer had to do something. What better way capture one of the esteemed codex members and make him a Manchurian Candidate of Fail and Decline.

Felipepe still has a very slight grasp of himself so he put out a cry for help in the form of saying Undertale is a top rpg. Someone save Felipepe. Save him from the pain and torture he had to go through by having his eyes held open and made to watch things with voxels and 10/10 reviews on Tumblr with messages in his ear about how these are better than everything in the 90s, talk about Beamdog's next project and how Obsidian has never been better.

I weep for the man but we must be strong in these dark times. Grimoire is the beacon and the hope of an entire age. SJW sympathizer Matt Barton is next on the list, his switch will be flipped and when he says the line "You know Cleve Grimore is ok and all but when are you going to make it more like Crypt of the Necrodancer" the true battle will begin.

Grimore will grab all the year end awards for best crpg in the history of forever, the decline will be stopped and the Golden Baby will fly high.

 

[J_C]

I will say with absolutely certainty it is better than 99.99% of all RPGs on the Steam store and will soon be better than Wizardry 7.

Sentences like this makes it hard to understand Cleve's point. No developer can be this full of himself. At least be a little more humble with a game which is a broken mess ATM.

Also:

When asked for Steam keys to send to reviewers I always figure if they are too cheap to buy one you should be suspicious of their motives.

Don't give keys to scam reviewers obviously. But if you think a reviewer will buy your game for 40 euros when he has a ton of free review copies for other games to play with than you are delusional. It's like Cleve wants the game to fail commercially. It's OK if he is not in it for the money, but seeing that he priced the game at almost AAA levels, it seems he cares about money. It's alright to behave like that on the Codex, but to continue the same persona on Steam and being a self-important asshole to others won't take him anywhere on the long run.

 

[vdweller]

WHY DOES J_C HAVE DEVELOPER TAG FOR MAKING A 0.99 RPG MAKER ADVENTURE GAME WHERE IS MY OWN DEVELOPER TAG YOU HACK ADMINS

I'm calling the internet police.

 

[Lord Andre]

WHY DOES J_C HAVE DEVELOPER TAG FOR MAKING A 0.99 RPG MAKER ADVENTURE GAME WHERE IS MY OWN DEVELOPER TAG YOU HACKS MODERATORS

I'm calling the internet police.

RPG Maker games are the shit pellets of the goat anus of the internet.