Grimoire Thread

[Darth Roxor]

In related news,

I removed the ring and equipped it again.

Suddenly guy starts advancing in swordsmanship again (he's now at ~60).

Arcanum still stuck at 50 and refuses to budge though, and lockpicking hasn't increased by itself since it went to 50 as well. Otoh I could grind swimming/climbing to 100 on him just fine.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Is Magic really unreliable in this game or does it get better? Seems like everything is resisting my Wizard, Bard and Necromancer like crazy even after a few levels and points invested in the respective skills to enhance casting (although I'm not sure if that actually has an effect on status / ailment infliction rates or not).

 

[Lady_Error]

A part of it is figuring out the weaknesses of the enemies and what spells they are more susceptible to. In the beginning, try using Chilling Touch for pure damage attacks, it's pretty effective.

Also, put all your available points into the magic skill of the spellcaster and always cast a level or two below the maximum available one (until you max out the magic skill).

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

A part of it is figuring out the weaknesses of the enemies and what spells they are more susceptible to. In the beginning, try using Chilling Touch for pure damage attacks, it's pretty effective.

Also, put all your available points into the magic skill of the spellcaster and always cast a level or two below the maximum available one (until you max out the magic skill).

In the beginning, Magic Missile and Chilling Touch should be your meat'n'potatos spells for simply smashing out damage. Later they do not produce enough damage against tougher monsters but initially those are intended to be workhorse spells.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Yeah, magic missile is effective, multi-target and doesn't tend to fizzle. Before I got hold monsters I used to fire it up all the time. Chilling touch otoh in my experience used to be resisted more often than not.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Blessed siege arbalest + demon killers vs Shelach.

I really liked Skulheim a lot in general.

Edit: Oh fuck there's still the Psychopomp

Edit2: Well, the Psychopomp was probably the fight of the game for me so far

 

[Darth Roxor]

Also, to come back to our earlier deliberations about the validity of ranged weapons:

I got Winged Justice from the chest in the princess's cell. It's a crossbow that has 8d8 damage, lethal, 24 bonus to hit. I'm now running around with it and a stack of drain arrerz (additional +4d6 damage and life drain) and shit is absolutely hilarious.

As to slings: I found a potentially cool one called Nevermiss that does 6d6 damage and has a 50 bonus to hit, together with a stack of 116 krakklers, which give another 2d4 and +20 to hit. Sounds okay, right? Well, no. Because the krakklers weigh 2.1 lbs a piece (compared to 0.3 lbs an arrow), and the stack of 116 (that can't be separated) puts even a 70 str guy (with other gear) at 300% encumbrance + disallows the use of shields. Sooooooo, yeah, I'm pretty sure slings are a waste of time.

 

[Gunnar]

As to slings: I found a potentially cool one called Nevermiss that does 6d6 damage and has a 50 bonus to hit, together with a stack of 116 krakklers, which give another 2d4 and +20 to hit. Sounds okay, right? Well, no. Because the krakklers weigh 2.1 lbs a piece (compared to 0.3 lbs an arrow), and the stack of 116 (that can't be separated) puts even a 70 str guy (with other gear) at 300% encumbrance + disallows the use of shields. Sooooooo, yeah, I'm pretty sure slings are a waste of time.

This sounds like something that should be fixed. Especially since archery is available to martial classes, while slings are opened up to caster classes as well, (and don't seem to have lethal blow) implying they should be useful to those casting classes.

 

[Lady_Error]

First time the Samhain Horror fucked me up, now I defeated him in one round with no casualties. Four Crushing Hands and melee is all it took.

A few other notable things:

- A biting Naga is much more effective than a biting Rhattu. The Naga doesn't even need weapons and does up to 50-60 damage several times per round, even with only 60 in Ninjitsu and Iron Hands. Once those are up, as well as Lethal Blow over 70, that guy will stomp over anything. Except maybe the enemies that require magical weapons.

- Did the Crescent Wilderness after Lalain Falls have Dragonflies before? I don't remember that area being so hardcore.

- Where in the Carnivale Bazaar do you find the Umbilica blade? And did anyone find out how to open that crate in the beginning?

May need to postpone playing through the rest, since now I'm back where I remember everything.

 

[Gunnar]

- Where in the Carnivale Bazaar do you find the Umbilica blade?

The Assaying information for that item is wrong. It's found in a chest in the Tower of Knossos, an area in Gideon.

 

[Dorateen]

- Did the Crescent Wilderness after Lalain Falls have Dragonflies before? I don't remember that area being so hardcore.

Night Lilies, Chlorazoids, Monarch Nettles, Blood Leeches, Treants... and Dragonflies. These monsters populate the Crescent Wilderness. Might have been updated last year, but I remember fighting them when I played.

Speaking of plant life, I always thought this was neat:

Spoiler

The spell Vitality Drain will instant kill plant-based creatures after transferring their vitality points to the caster.

 

[MuscleSpark]

Darth Roxor Will you be writing a review? That would be something to look forward to.

 

[Lady_Error]

Speaking of plant life, I always thought this was neat:

Spoiler

The spell Vitality Drain will instant kill plant-based creatures after transferring their vitality points to the caster.

Well, except there is hardly any plant that survives the melee attacks of the first round to get to the spells...

 

[Darth Roxor]

Darth Roxor Will you be writing a review? That would be something to look forward to.

Nope. I could never hope to top Dorateen's.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Spoiler

What's going on in this tile in Aquavia? My Ranger is telling me that there's something and so is my Wizard's Detect Secret spell, but I couldn't to find any secret switches nor could I walk through the wall either.

 

[Dorateen]

Isn't there a dial on that wall? One you can click on to change the different symbols? If so, it's part of a puzzle.

 

[Lady_Error]

Did you try Looking on that tile with one of the characters?

 

[Hobo Elf]

The 3 dials are in a different room. This is just a little 1x1 room as far as I can tell.

Edit: Alright, I inspected the room. Seems to be either some fluff or a subtle clue for a puzzle.

Edit Edit: I killed a certain NPC for a key in Crowl. How bad are the consequences of murdering NPCs in Grimwah? People don't seem to like me much, but I can bribe a few of them to be more tolerant, but I'm just wondering is there are game breaking consequences to look forward to.

 

[Haba]

If you use walkthrough/cheat you can't break the game.

But wanton murder can certainly make your life miserable. I completed the game killing about only six NPCs.

 

[Hobo Elf]

I'm not trying to go on a murderhobo spree, I merely used the option I had to since I couldn't pick the door and I didn't have Charm nor could I find it. I was just curious to know if it's possible to break the critical path.

 

[Lady_Error]

Poor Gorlo. Should just hand over the key when asked for it.

I think it's possible to finish the game by murdering everyone, though I haven't heard anyone try it.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Poor Gorlo. Should just hand over the key when asked for it.

I think it's possible to finish the game by murdering everyone, though I haven't heard anyone try it.

That sounds like a challenge for future replays.

 

[GandGolf]

Poor Gorlo. Should just hand over the key when asked for it.

I think it's possible to finish the game by murdering everyone, though I haven't heard anyone try it.

That sounds like a challenge for future replays.

Won't some of the NPCs be immortal though? At least the plot critical ones, anyway. That would make a good Steam achievement though, slay the golden baby.

 

[Lady_Error]

Yeah, I don't know what happens if you fight the Golden Baby or the White Owl. My guess is you cannot defeat them, but if you do then you will get the item needed to finish the game as loot.

 

[Gunnar]

You can't initiate combat with the Golden Baby. I remember not being able to fight Lilith, or the Axe spirit either.