Grimoire Thread

[Casual Hero]

Started playing today; wow, I love it. Quick question: does the skill 'Lethal Blows' apply to archery? So could I get critical hits using a bow and arrow?

 

[Gunnar]

Started playing today; wow, I love it. Quick question: does the skill 'Lethal Blows' apply to archery? So could I get critical hits using a bow and arrow?

Yes, but you need a "lethal" bow for it to work.

 

[TheImplodingVoice]

Is it Zepp or Gandalf that wrote this

 

[Lady_Error]

1. Will that party handle whatever shit is waiting for them or there will be trouble?

Keep in mind that the Durendil has quite severe limitations on what it can equip. I usually skip that race and the Aeorbs too, which are way too squishy in my opinion. The extra skill points do not make up for the limitations.

2. Is Cleric needed here? I figured out that Templar will go with clerical magic from lvl 3 and my Thaumaturge have spells like cure light wounds

Yeah, other classes have healing spells too, so you may be fine.

3. Will my Feyfolk Bard be able to switch into Jester? From what I read I doubt it can be done directly and it probably needs some more class switching so if I want that Feyfolk to end as Jester then I should not start with Bard because only Bard can respec to Jester and You cannot switch to class You already used. Am I right?

Class changes are quite complex and most races will not be able to get to Jester. Your best bet is with a Barrower. This is probably the easiest pathway and even that has 10-11 class changes:

Barrower Thaumaturge (30% bonus multiplier) to Jester:

• 11 class changes
• THAUMATURGE(start) > WIZARD(0p) > NECRO(40p) > SAGE(25p) > CLERIC(10p) > TEMPLAR(65p) > WARRIOR(10p) > BERSERK(10p) > RANGER(0p) > THIEF(20p) > BARD(35p) > JESTER(175p)
• You go through all but three classes (except Metalsmith, Pirate and Assassin)
• Easy to do, though requires more luck with getting enough extra attribute points for the Necro, Templar and of course Jester. The Necro can be skipped if you do not get enough points for him after one class change.
• 290 points required or 290/11 = 26 levelup attribute points on average per class.

The Jester is really supposed to be an almost unreachable dream class.

 

[GandGolf]

Is there any way to see how many copies of a game sold on GOG?

 

[Cael]

The Jester is really supposed to be an almost unreachable dream class.

It should then be made into a joke class. After all that striving to get to the ultimate class, you find that it has the lowest HP, no skill whatsoever other than tooting a horn. Honk honk!

 

[ERYFKRAD]

It should then be made into a joke class

You Australopithecus, it's already called a Jester.

 

[Zep Zepo]

The game has been broken since day 1 (and before that the demo). No amount of V1, V2s or V3s is going to change that. One of the biggest mistakes he made was not fixing how Vitality loss works. He just doesn't "get it".

Cleve's gonna Cleve.

Zep--

 

[jebsmoker]

you can make your guys recover your vitality by having a little cat nap, you stupid taffer

 

[Tito Anic]

The game has been broken since day 1 (and before that the demo). No amount of V1, V2s or V3s is going to change that. One of the biggest mistakes he made was not fixing how Vitality loss works. He just doesn't "get it".

Cleve's gonna Cleve.

Zep--

Your butthole is broken since day one.

 

[Zep Zepo]

you can make your guys recover your vitality by having a little cat nap, you stupid taffer

See, this is what some stupid fuck says when they don't know how Cleve fucked up the Vitality.

How he fucked it up has been posted many times. I suggest you doing some research before you open your piehole again and show even more what a dumb faggot you are.

Zep--

 

[Blaine]

Is it Zepp or Gandalf that wrote this

Couldn't have been Zep, since it isn't signed

Zep--

 

[Grauken]

Is it Zepp or Gandalf that wrote this

Couldn't have been Zep, since it isn't signed

Zep--

Sure, but the butthurt is on Zep's level

 

[jebsmoker]

you can make your guys recover your vitality by having a little cat nap, you stupid taffer

See, this is what some stupid fuck says when they don't know how Cleve fucked up the Vitality.

How he fucked it up has been posted many times. I suggest you doing some research before you open your piehole again and show even more what a dumb faggot you are.

Zep--

there is *nothing* broken with the vitality system. it is directly scaled with your stats. you lose it by exerting your characters. you need a little nap every now and then to recover it

 

[GandGolf]

there is *nothing* broken with the vitality system. it is directly scaled with your stats. you lose it by exerting your characters. you need a little nap every now and then to recover it

But you only regain a fixed amount of vitality, so if you have 1000 then you have to drink from the refreshing fountain 250 times and by the time all 8 of your characters have taken enough drinks your first guy has gotten low on vitality again. It seems like Cleve did this to be intentionally annoying.

 

[Lady_Error]

there is *nothing* broken with the vitality system. it is directly scaled with your stats. you lose it by exerting your characters. you need a little nap every now and then to recover it

But you only regain a fixed amount of vitality, so if you have 1000 then you have to drink from the refreshing fountain 250 times and by the time all 8 of your characters have taken enough drinks your first guy has gotten low on vitality again. It seems like Cleve did this to be intentionally annoying.

There aren't that many refreshing fountains, so this is a complete strawman. You either sleep to regain vitality or cast a spell. You're literally grasping at straws now to justify your butthurt.

 

[The_Mask]

You're literally grasping at straws now to justify your butthurt.

He likes to drink.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

there is *nothing* broken with the vitality system. it is directly scaled with your stats. you lose it by exerting your characters. you need a little nap every now and then to recover it

But you only regain a fixed amount of vitality, so if you have 1000 then you have to drink from the refreshing fountain 250 times and by the time all 8 of your characters have taken enough drinks your first guy has gotten low on vitality again. It seems like Cleve did this to be intentionally annoying.

This math is an almost perfect duplication of the way vitality works in Crusaders, as I have discussed previously. It took much tweaking to get it closer and closer to Wiz 7. I don't think you appreciate how this keeps the challenge of restoring vitality a bit steep no matter how high your level goes. You can't just fight and fight without rest. At some point you may be forced to take prolonged rest to recover at the highest levels, the same way weightlifters need more rest as they get stronger. You have the capacity to exhaust yourself in a way you could not have done when you were lower level. It's very close to the way rest works in Wiz 7 and I thought it was awesome. Not everything gets easy as you level up. Some things still require patience and attention to party conditions and illnesses. A guy with 999 vitality can take a lot of rest to restore his strength and maximum capacity.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

you can make your guys recover your vitality by having a little cat nap, you stupid taffer

See, this is what some stupid fuck says when they don't know how Cleve fucked up the Vitality.

How he fucked it up has been posted many times. I suggest you doing some research before you open your piehole again and show even more what a dumb faggot you are.

Zep--

Zep, seriously you need an examination for early onset dementia. No joke. You don't sound like you're all there mentally.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

What does vitality do again?

 

[jebsmoker]

it's a representation of how much physical energy your characters have. the less they have, the more fatigue they have

 

[ERYFKRAD]

it's a representation of how much physical energy your characters have. the less they have, the more fatigue they have

And what does that affect?

 

[jebsmoker]

from the manual

"The endurance a character has before falling asleep from fatigue. It increases at level advancement against the CONSTITUTION attribute. If the CONSTITUTION is increased this will result in larger gains of vitality when levelling up."

 

[Lady_Error]

Weapon penetration goes down. When VIT reaches zero, you fall asleep.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Weapon penetration goes down. When VIT reaches zero, you fall asleep.

Doesn't sound like a big deal.