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Grimoire Thread

Radiane

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Well now that this game is on Gog I tried it out too. I was really curious by all this hype this game got. As someone whose favorite crpg is Wiz7 I have to say, well, it´s not like first love feelings towards Grimoire, this game definetily needs getting used to before enjoyment, that´s my very first impression.
The game has a somewhat dusty & rusty archaic feel to it, don´t know if it´s coincidentally or not
 

Casual Hero

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Well now that this game is on Gog I tried it out too. I was really curious by all this hype this game got. As someone whose favorite crpg is Wiz7 I have to say, well, it´s not like first love feelings towards Grimoire, this game definetily needs getting used to before enjoyment, that´s my very first impression.
The game has a somewhat dusty & rusty archaic feel to it, don´t know if it´s coincidentally or not
Because Wizardry 7 is not archaic at all. :shittydog:
 

Silentsigil

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Another great review:

2/5 - I may have to do a fourth playthrough

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Hi there. Gog doesn't allow review edits apparently. Revised my steam review to reflect the game's current status. No change in recommendation status.

**Edit- V3
Enemies still cast @SPELLTAG on the regular. Unfixed since V1--the "complete" release (sold at AAA prices) something around 2 years ago.

Stamina regeneration on rest and depletion on...doing ♥♥♥♥ing anything... seems to have been made worse? All stamina drains are % based, all stamina recovery is flat. This means the diminishing returns of rest and the flat increases of food/spells/etc. make CON a pure dump stat. Avoid at all costs.(Suicide and force resurrect until CON is 10) HP growth is purely class based. You'll inevitably reach 999 stamina, meaning you'll need to rest for 2-4 minutes every 5 minutes of active play. Or spend 6+ minutes casting stamina spells. This is...♥♥♥♥ing bad.

I gave up before checking this over again, but the SPIRIT bar is supposed to currently grant resistances to spooky ♥♥♥♥. However, it used to be a HUNGER bar. In late V2 stages, most spoopy enemies made you HUNGRY. Because. Sure, why the ♥♥♥♥ not. The SPIRIT bar and the maintenance of it on top of the above stamina maintenance was utterly pointless as the added resistance didn't exist (if it did, it was not visible or relevant). Since nothing else that actually matters seems to have been fixed I'm just going to assume this hasn't been fixed either.

Several race/class combinations still start with 0 skills allocated. This sets you somewhere between 1 and 20 class levels behind due to the EXTREME randomization of skill levels on level up. Tying into this, you can (AND SHOULD, multiclassing is weird) bank attribute points on level up. You cannot bank Skill points. Every time you level up, any skill points you have not allocated are erased from existence and replaced by the new level up.
These are the basic systems that you'll be wrestling with the entire game for it to even function.

In previous versions most of the highest level spells weren't implemented in any way whatsoever. V2 means this no longer caused a CTD, but they still did nothing. I'm not wasting my time to see if they actually work now.
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The game needs actual reviews and criticism, not flunkying or random hateful shit. Could still be made into a pretty damn good game in V4 if Cleve manages to learn the function of "Ctrl-F"

Like this:

If you wan't the stamina system to work the way you seem to want it to, then a potential fix would be to tune down severely the amount of stamina gained per levelup. Even the most flimsy armed wizard and flaccid bard seems to gain at a minimum 37 or so stamina a levelup. Beefy types seem to be able to peak around 70 on a ridiculous roll. Crank that shit down to 4-7 a levelup and then the system would function more reasonably as-is and not immediately wreck your life at about clvl 7 (37x7 =259, above 1/4 the cap...+ starting stamina...)
 
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warcrimes666

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Cleve is the overman. Nietzche plays grimoire in heaven and splutters like a newborn babe. He is here to set humanity on the glorious path of upward inclination, not to make sure every finger sniffer gets a shiny sticker from mommy.

Perhaps playing through a fifth time will help you figure out if you like it or not, greta.
 

Silentsigil

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I think it's pretty obvious I do like it, otherwise I wouldn't know shit about it. I just can't recommend it to anyone that isn't a masochist or has a job.

Think this might be the last I dip my toes into this, though. I have other shit to do than wait another year for an update and I definitely don't belong on this forum. GL, nerds.
 

Cleveland Mark Blakemore

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I think it's pretty obvious I do like it, otherwise I wouldn't know shit about it. I just can't recommend it to anyone that isn't a masochist or has a job.

Think this might be the last I dip my toes into this, though. I have other shit to do than wait another year for an update and I definitely don't belong on this forum. GL, nerds.

I'll pay you $40 to take down your ridiculous parody review, remove the game from your computer and then go away and never return.
 

Cael

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I think it's pretty obvious I do like it, otherwise I wouldn't know shit about it. I just can't recommend it to anyone that isn't a masochist or has a job.

Think this might be the last I dip my toes into this, though. I have other shit to do than wait another year for an update and I definitely don't belong on this forum. GL, nerds.

I'll pay you $40 to take down your ridiculous parody review, remove the game from your computer and then go away and never return.
Hmm... Buy Grimoire for $20, pretends to hate it and write a bad review, Cleve pays me $40 to fuck off...

There is a scam in there somewhere... :hahano:

Sorry, couldn't resist.
 

d1nolore

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So whats the story? Is vitality a game breaking pain in the ass, an easy non issue, or somewhere in the middle?
 

BLOBERT

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BROS VITALITY IS A MINOR PAIN IN THE ASS

I HAVENT GOT MUCH PAST SAMHAM TERROR IN LIKE THREE PLAYTHROUGHALS BECAUSE I THINK I SHOULD HAVE BUILT MY PARTYS BETTER

GRIMOIRE IS FILLED WITH ANNOYING SHIT BUT I THINK THE GAME HAS A CERTAIN STYLE AND CHARM THAT CANNOT BE DENIID!!!

LOLOLLOL L BROS TRU STORY WHEN THE GAME CAME OUT I TOLD MY WIFE ABOUT IT AND ONE DAY SHE SAID SHE WAS TIRED OF ME TALKING ABOUT MACGREGOR LOLLOLLLOL THAT IS WHAT SHE CALLED IT
 

Valky

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Vitality loss also seems to slow down once it gets to around 15% or so remaining, and I've persisted through countless battles with low vitality and come out fine.
 
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I never had any problems with low vitality (and I'm easily annoyed normally). A nap and it's gone. I too have fought many battles with a totally tired out party (some of my lazy bastards even dared to sleep during fights now and then) and it wasn't much of a hassle. For me the vitality mechanic adds quite some tension to the game and I wouldn't want to miss it.
 

Cleveland Mark Blakemore

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There have to be constraints on the players no matter how high their levels get - it's part of muh balinse.

Modern popamolers expect God Mode after level 3 and no more inconveniences but alas this is the way of fail and decline.

Vitality could not get much better, it has been adjusted and fine tuned for at least 20 years. It's just right even for higher level players. Still requires you to get some rest or renew your stamina some once you have been exhausted enough.
 

GandGolf

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There have to be constraints on the players no matter how high their levels get - it's part of muh balinse.

Modern popamolers expect God Mode after level 3 and no more inconveniences but alas this is the way of fail and decline.

Vitality could not get much better, it has been adjusted and fine tuned for at least 20 years. It's just right even for higher level players. Still requires you to get some rest or renew your stamina some once you have been exhausted enough.

But why only regain it by a fixed amount then? If you lose vitality by a percent then shouldn't that also work for regaining it? Otherwise you are merely punishing players for having vitality that is too high.
 
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udm

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Just bought my second copy of Grimoire on GOG to support Cleve. I feel like I've already gotten enough entertainment from his posts to warrant shelling out $7.50 (on top of what I pledged during the IndieGoGo campaign), even if I may not have the 600 120 hours to complete the game.
 

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