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Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by J1M, Aug 18, 2013.

  1. Phage Arcane Manlet

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    Sure, but now they will have to make every Paladin secret from here on out with MC in mind, or nerf MC. Thus, literally and actually limiting design space.

    I'm not saying MC is that big of a deal (I've always been slightly underwhelmed by it unless the Paladin is already winning), but it is the kind of card that will limit what Blizzard does moving forward - unless they finally implement a rotation system.

    These cards that cheat out other cards, or create a huge combo with no counterplay, are problems in this regard to be honest.
     
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  2. Mystary! Arcane

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    muh design space!
     
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  3. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    Full random brawl kek
     
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  4. Mystary! Arcane

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    Never seen so many instaconcedes. There's just no way to deal with crazy shit like Anub-Arak, Varian Win, Tirion or whaveter at turn 2-3.
     
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  5. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    Spelleater doesn't work. Her battlecry doesn't trigger, I dunno if it's just in Brawl or a global issue. Nice job Blizzcuck
     
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  6. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Derpy brawl. Got a golden epic for 400 dust, though.
     
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  7. Phage Arcane Manlet

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    He's right btw



    Well, I don't think they should have settled on this incarnation of Warsong, but he's right about why they changed it.

    Anyone seriously exclaiming "RIP PATRON WARRIOR :( " are fucking delusional. Anyways, see you nerds next time something happens to this dumb game.
     
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  8. Andhaira Arcane

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    This Brawl is really fun. Super easy to do 60 gold quests, and a lot of fun besides.

    Just played as Warrior for lulz and got double Varian Wrynn. MADNESS MEN!
     
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  9. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    Meh, I understand why they did it, but I still think they could've nerfed the deck without killing it. If only for the diversity of the ladder and such.
     
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  10. Mystary! Arcane

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    So, basically, Warsong Commander was too confusing for new players.
     
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  11. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Oh the irony...
     
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  12. Grubba Arcane

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    I've only played a few of this brawl but still saw duplicate legendaries in each one. Played as hunter and got 2x King Krush in two games and played against a paladin who got fucking 2x Tirion.
     
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  13. UglyBastard Arcane

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    Patron was not really bad for ladder diversity, it's not that every retard was grinding with Patron, it was a regular occurence but not more prevalent than the usual suspects like Cancer Pala, Druid etc. Now that it's gone, the Secret Pally will roam freely and infest everything.
    The only format where it was overabundant was tournaments, where it sported a whooping 50% win rate.
     
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  14. cvv Arcane Patron

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    Eh, they should've nerfed Frothing instead, Patron deck would be still competitive and less ridiculous, everyone wins.

    And yeah, if there's a class that needs a nerf much more it's Pally. So that one didn't quite hit the mark.
     
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  15. sser Arcane Cuck Developer

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    I think the idea is that Warsong would've continued to cause problems down the road. That's why he talks about how they probably should've done a bigger change when they chunked the molten giants charge combo way back when. Also talked about how a card like Dreadsteed couldn't be a neutral because of a card like Warsong.

    I still think the draw engine of these strong decks is what makes them so strong. Knocking Warsong out because it affected game design makes sense, but in a vacuum I always thought cards like Battle Rage/Divine Favor are what make these decks so ridiculous.
     
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  16. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Divine Favor, in particular, is a pretty ridiculous card for aggro decks and completely nullifies the drawback of stacking your deck with low mana cards (you blow your hand fast) provided you're able to get one in a timely manner. At the same time it also punishes players for playing control.
     
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  17. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    It's funny when Ben Brode says new player experience was one of the reasons behind the nerf. Cause what they did is simply render a basic card unplayable for them (and everybody else).
     
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  18. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    No one used it before, anyway.
     
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  19. Andhaira Arcane

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    No one used to use Frothing Berserker as well. It's only after Grim Patron that people realized how powerful Frothing could be, and why warrior had cards liek whirlwind that damaged it's own minions as well as the enemies for miniscule damage.

    Now soon the power of Varian will be discovered, and unleashed.
     
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  20. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Without Patron, Berserker required a good deal of minions on the board to get super buffed. Patron can do that in a single turn given it's self-replication. That's why people didn't play Frothing that much before.
     
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  21. Carceri Arcane

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    Typical Blizzard bullshit. I suppose this is confusing as well then:

    [​IMG]

    especially since the Rhino itself has charge, how confusing is that, huh?!
     
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  22. Mystary! Arcane

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    Speaking of beasts with charge, this brawl gave me another legendary, King Krush.
    Third one in a row. Praise RNGesus!
     
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  23. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    /conspiracy hat

    I think the Brawl packs have higher rarity yields. Last three I've gotten Al'Akir, gold Nat Pagle, and a golden epic that I dusted.

    /conspiracy hat
     
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  24. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    And on the other side are those like me whose best brawl pack was 2 rares and think these packs are rigged to give you only shitty cards.
     
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  25. WhiteGuts Arcane

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    I'm on that side too.
     
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