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Hearts of Iron 4 - The Ultimate WWII Strategy Game

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by GarfunkeL, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. passerby Arcane

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    I'm walking some kind of line on the edge between mild larping and mild minmaxing, which varies depending on how much I know about the state I play as. Like most players, I guess.
     
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    I think it's pretty fun but to short. And the AI is fucked, you can invade Japan with basically no ships and they don't even try to disrupt the supply lines. I like to arrange long wars, where i end up surrounded and slowly fight my way back. Like Italy holding both the allies and soviets back after Germany surrenders.

    That's a fair price. You can then play multiplayer on the official server with losers who bought all the DLC.
     
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    Speaking of larping, I'm currently larping Britain in HoI4+BICE. I used to larp a lot when I was a student playing HoI2 Armageddon with the USSR. After the war was over, I would have my strategic bombers conduct patrol missions around the border with the US in the Far East and stuff like that. I would also recreate the Soviet OOB before the German attack in 1941. Fun times.

    My game was to bleed them out by holding off around Beijing and also protecting against invasions. In retrospect maybe I waited too long before I went on the offensive in 1941.
     
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    HOI4 Dev Diary - Soviet Union Opposition

    https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/hoi4-dev-diary-soviet-union-opposition.1483120/

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    What an absolutely dogshit dev diary. I'm not reading that
     
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    Is Darkest Hour still the best in the series?
     
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    Good stuff for larping imo. Its not terribly realistic for alternate leaders to come back with the game starting in 1936 - but it would have been if the game started earlier, so might as well ignore realism and make it happen.
     
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    It bugs me a bit how they tend to push stuff into the 1936 start, which actually belongs in the 1920s, and I mean this for other countries as well.
     
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    If you consider the vast mod environmet, definitely. The vanilla experience is pretty good too.

    Though I think the still updated Arsenal of Democracy is the best HoI vanilla experience.
     
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    C'mon it's a product tailored for Russians to rob them of theirs money. Why wouldn't you read that?
     
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    Playing HoI4 multiplayer demonstrated to me once again that the zoomer generation has no idea how to have fun to save its own life. It's just otherwise bored people who have been thrown a couple of toys with little explanation or idea how to use them and they are trying to have fun with them, like a group of chimps would with human children's toys.

    The majority of the time I observed not people who are genuinely enjoying the activity - and who can blame them, no one really enjoys spending 3 hours in preparing for the next 3 hours' war - nor people who were larping their country, aka immersing themselves in the game. I observed people who are instead larping other people who they have watched on twitch and who seemed to be having fun doing what the zoomer is imitating. He is not having fun playing the game - he is pretending to be having the same experience as a guy he watched on stream seemed to be having.

    :discohitler:
     
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    Playing PDX games in MP makes you gay. FYI.
     
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    Singleplayer is no less gay.
     
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  18. Stavrophore Kalin was right all along. Patron Vatnik

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    PDX should abandon making alternate history, because they are completely obliterated by kaiserreich in these regards. Stick to implementing new mechanics instead you lazyfucks.
     
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    They haven't shied away from "adopting" mod ideas into focus trees, for the Barbarossa expansion at least if not from before that.

    They have already admitted that their codebase is so fucked up after five years, that they will hardly be implementing any new mechanics, so that ship has sailed.

    Instead they said they'll be concentrating on "content packs" like Battle for the Bosphorus. They've already delegated the position of project lead on HoI to another guy, whose job will be to oversee the project to the end of its being supported.

    Open their summary of PDX con dev diary, most of this is stated explicitly, for the rest read between the lines. The fact that they have named South America and Africa Middle East (?) as locations for future content packs tells you enough about where HoI 4 is headed in terms of development.

    Personally, I'm happy that I have a mod like Black Ice which allows me to larp WW2 in enough detail to keep me entertained while also learning occasional bits of history here and there. It's the best utility I could ever get from HoI games.
     
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    You can play 1930 mod then you have plenty of time to do the economic focuses too and then work on politics in 1936 its too late to play for entire Middle Europe, no way to stop Hitler to come to power, or do the preventive war or even build your deference industry.

    Don't really matters if you play with Big Six (USA, UK, France, USSR, Japan, Germany) or countries like Italy which can choose the moment and side they enter the war.

    I am really surprised they did not chosen 1918 or 1920 as start for HOi so much epic wars and potential turning points to choose.
     
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    Did any DLC add mechanics or content for Germany or Japan?
    So strange that they forgot about the main players of WW2. (And also most played nations)
     
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    Nice total war theme, from a company that avoids implementing any total war mechanics. Can't wait to conscript 10 billion people at the cost of factory output efficiency. Love the automatic factory repair too.
     
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