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Hogwarts Legacy - Harry Potter open world action RPG prequel set in the late 1800s

Delterius

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Look JK Rowling is a hack. The moment someone was like 'huh Hogwarts isn't really diverse is it' she came up with a character literally called Jewy Goldstein or something. The goblins being the magical world's second class people who control finance is what makes them a Jewish analogue. The fact that they look like Nazi caricatures of Jews is the weird Freudian act.
You're just being ironic, right?
nope. fun facts about goblins in hp world:
  • goblins have been ethnically cleansed from their ancestral lands by the wizards
  • goblins are forbidden from using wands as a signifier of their second class status
  • goblins are only allowed to be smiths and bankers as a concession from the state
  • goblins are often targetted by wizard serial killers
  • goblin rebellions against the status quo are actually fairly common in wizard history
  • goblins for some reason also 'keep the secrets of magic smithing from us', hence why the wizards feel justified in subjugating them
  • wizards believe that a secret cabal of goblins might join Voldemort due to aforementioned oppression, only reason it didn't happen is because Voldy killed goblins too
  • they look like this
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frankly i half expect this game to have a side quest about goblins kidnapping christian wizard babies

as a clarification i don't think JK Rowling is anti-semitic. she's just british.

also the jewish student that was totally there in the books just unheard of was called anthony goldstein
 

Drop Duck

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That's how Tolkien actually has devised his races when he created Middleearth.
The process behind the writing of The Lord of the Rings might be one of the most well documented cases in fantasy ever thanks to the efforts of Tolkien's son. I'm fairly sure that nowhere in The History of Middle-Earth, which consists of twelve volumes, you will find anything to support this ridiculous libelous claim of yours. Even on the surface it rings completely false since Tolkien was dealing with myth and was famous for strongly disliking political allegory in fairy tales. At most you could say that he drew inspiration from historical attacks on Christian Europe, the Haradrim being Islamic, the orcs being mongols. This is cultural and civilizational, not racial.
 
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That's how Tolkien actually has devised his races when he created Middleearth.
The process behind the writing of The Lord of the Rings might be one of the most well documented cases in fantasy ever thanks to the efforts of Tolkien's son. I'm fairly sure that nowhere in The History of Middle-Earth, which consists of twelve volumes, you will find anything to support this ridiculous libelous claim of yours. Even on the surface it rings completely false since Tolkien was dealing with myth and was famous for strongly disliking political allegory in fairy tales. At most you could say that he drew inspiration from historical attacks on Christian Europe, the Haradrim being Islamic, the orcs being mongols. This is cultural and civilizational, not racial.
Tolkien mentioned that there's a contrast to be drawn between dwarves and jews which causes people to think dwarves=jews, something he never implied. Merely that there were similarities.
refer to letter 176
 
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The game might play around limited time per day. Basically you have certain amount of time during the day that you use to accomplish goals that increase certain skills or give certain rewards, so you need to plan how to spend time every day.

You have a homework you need to do today, it takes 5 hours to finish all the experiments and studying but that would leave you limited time to go adventuring and searching for artifacts or training a certain skill you think you will need in the future.

I think implementing this might work gameplay wise, problem is that I personally have little hope for modern day developers doing anything right.

That would be great, but the casual audience hates time limits (waah too much pressure) so I doubt it. Hell, even here on Codex you have little fragile bitches who cry everytime an RPG has a time limit.
 

Drop Duck

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This is cultural and civilizational

This is European whitewashing of saying racial.
So in your view the Islamic imperialist expansion and aggression was not just a cultural and religious force but a fundamentally racist project? If so then isn't Tolkien taking inspiration from these racists for the evil forces in his books a very progressive move?
 

wishbonetail

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I thought Tolkiens inspiration or allegory on WW2 was pretty straightforward. Why else Hobbit, a childs fairy tale, would be so blown out of proportions coincidentally during the tumultuous historical events. The allegory to remaining red menace after the war becomes especially blunt at the end, during the hobbits homecoming, which, understendably, was left out in screen adaptation.
 
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I thought Tolkiens inspiration or allegory on WW2 was pretty straightforward. Why else Hobbit, a childs fairy tale, would be so blown out of proportions coincidentally during the tumultuous historical events. The allegory to remaining red menace after the war becomes especially blunt at the end, during the hobbits homecoming, which, understendably, was left out in screen adaptation.
tolkien hated allegories
 

wishbonetail

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I thought Tolkiens inspiration or allegory on WW2 was pretty straightforward. Why else Hobbit, a childs fairy tale, would be so blown out of proportions coincidentally during the tumultuous historical events. The allegory to remaining red menace after the war becomes especially blunt at the end, during the hobbits homecoming, which, understendably, was left out in screen adaptation.
tolkien hated allegories
So? He stiil did it. Maybe unintentionally.
 

Axioms

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The Harry Potter world is a terrible setting for a video game. The old Gameboy games were cool if very non-canon but having a big wide fancy living world in a Harry Potter MMO is dumb as fuck.

Stuff like Academagia where the world was designed with video games in mind is way better.
 

Sarathiour

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kinda surprised at the amount of attention this thread is getting

Honestly, Roguey's autism preventing him to see the difference between Real Time and In-Game Time is probably way more entertaining than this game will ever be.
 

Jaedar

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The moment you introduce real time timers in a videogame like this, you can't expect it to go in any other direction. Especially since its theme and flashy looks are supposed to enthrall normies regardless of the gameplay.
Nier wasn't like that, but in general you are right. If you see timers based on real time rather than game time in a mainstream title you should expect that you are being sold busywork for the purposes of later removing them with microtransactions.

It does make sense for a game like this to have mechanics around time management (being in time for classes, doing all your homework and still making time for fun is arguably the primary challenge of real life education), but it's rare to see that done with actual time, as opposed to discrete time slots.

The Harry Potter world is a terrible setting for a video game.
Eh, could be good. Pick a house, try and gain house points by mastering various in game systems have some socialization elements ala persona or stardew valley. Hogwarts as such could be made into a very interesting 3d space to navigate it's described as being constantly shifting and containing endless hidden rooms and shortcuts. The setting as a whole, meh, it's not exactly fleshed out afaik. There's a whole world out there, but everything that isn't england gets at best a cameo, and the economics/politics/culture/etc are pretty underdeveloped from what I remember. And that's in the time period of the actual books, setting your game 100 years earlier means you're more or less starting on a blank paper except for hogwarts itself. The setting also has very little "free magic" and mostly just rigorous spells, which translates well to a video game. I might be misremembering though, I read the books as a kid/teenager but that was a while ago now.
 

Poseidon00

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basically every shot of the entire video
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I just can't take modern games seriously anymore, it's supposed to be in the fucking UK not africa
"b-b-but it's a wizarding school!"
there's fucking multiple schools all over the world, it's a major plot of like two of the books
hogwarts is literally a school for fucking british people, not even european people -- which has like three of their own or some shit

this is on the same tier as claiming hermione is black, fucking clownworldia

same exact shit ruined my vampyr experience, why even set it in "hogwarts" if you're going to do this

Yeah it's a fucking disgrace, we are swimming in absolute propaganda 24/7. Everything- literally everything- must serve the narrative of white extinction.
 
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On the topic of timers, it is worrying given the habits of Western AAA games, but there are also examples of games that didn't had timers to grow herbs that couldn't circumvent with microtransactions (ie, WoW with the Halfhill farm and the garrisson). I think the idea might be that you plant seeds in the green house, and then go do a dungeon or something and come back to harvest the seeds. We shall see.

It depends. I just watched that PlayStation video on this, and that timer was 28 something minutes. Now the way they were talking about going to class and stuff made me think of that River City Ransom-ish beat 'em up game Rockstar made called Bully, and in Bully a day is 18 minutes, so these timers could be multiple days. I'd imagine timers are only going to get bigger than that one shown in the trailer too. Now this game looks a little more leisurely given all the stuff it seems like you can do, so maybe a day won't be that short, but it's possible 28 minutes could be about a whole in game day. But maybe they go for something more like Dead Rising where a day is 2 hours; which is a nice amount of to get around that game's map, do things, and swing by places you might need to go.
 

ColaWerewolf

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The fact that you can choose your Hogwarts house is amazing. Subsequently, the fact that this choice does not matter at all is the most damning of red flags. It's not really the proper setting if the detail of being Slytherin as opposed to Gryffindor is just inconsequential, superficial fluff.

It's too bad, but in their attempt to fill up as many fan-favorite checkboxes as possible they've chosen to forego the details that make the setting compelling in the first place. I hope I'm wrong and the house selection ends up being even modestly meaningful, but I doubt it.
 
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I don't remember anything in the trailer that'd lead me to believe the choosing house choice wouldn't matter. Or at least wouldn't matter beyond what I'd imagine it to be. I'd imagine it mostly just effects some stuff with companions, Quidditch if that's in, (I'd assume it will be) and then where your quarters within the school is. They didn't even say you get to make the choice yourself.
 

Tyranicon

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The Harry Potter world is a terrible setting for a video game.

I agree, but the premise of a noseless freak being able to take over the world with his emo posse of cringelords is practically lifted straight from a JRPG.
 

vortex

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I hope there won't be too much cinematics. Gameplay looks interesting. I like it.
I only now figureded it out that Avalanche Software and Avalanche Studio are different ones.
 

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