I think it's sad

[kumquatq3]

Red Alert had a couple official expansions (Aftermath was the second one, can't remember the first) and a buttload of unofficial 'mission packs' and whatnot.

Aftermath, thats right, I looked up the first and it's Counterstrike


O ya, EA just annouced they are working on a Red Alert 3 on a heavily modified Generals engine. So, we'll see how that goes.

 

[Sol Invictus]

It'll probably suck.

Oh yeah, I wish Yuri's Revenge would work on my computer. It doesn't. It stopped working since I installed SP2.

 

[kumquatq3]

did you check for a patch?

ftp://ftp.westwood.com/pub/redalert2/update/RA21006EN.EXE

Try this ^

BTW, check your PMs :wink:

 

[roguefrog]

Total Annihilation totally rules.. My favorite RTS. :D

TA is also good, is cavedogs multiplayer system still up? I should install it and give it a go. Anyone up for a game of either?

Boneyards went down like 5 years ago. Same with TA's developer Cavedog. There are 3rd party services that try and emulate Boneyards and it's galactic metagame though.

 

[Fez]

There was an expansion to Dune 2 that inserted some extra features, missions and a few new units.

 

[Sol Invictus]

did you check for a patch?

ftp://ftp.westwood.com/pub/redalert2/update/RA21006EN.EXE

Try this ^

BTW, check your PMs :wink:

Red Alert 2 works fine. Yuri doesn't.

 

[kumquatq3]

The patch seems to be for both. Not 100% sure tho, can't hurt to try

 

[Sol Invictus]

Doesn't work. Damn.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I could never find the expansion packs for TA , gotta love building big berthas and
pounding the enemy's base from half the map away though.

Alot of RTS games these days are missing that thunderous shake cam when there was massive battles going on.

 

[Digit]

TA is simply legend. No other game did what they did, you had real tech tress, and speicalities like someone would go all Kbot, or all underwater or all vehicles etc. There was just too much strategy too it. I played alot of TA, and the games that were best were the brutal ones, where both players bases were smoking ruins and wreckages from the word go.

No nukes.
Commanders can't kiss. (ie they can't kill each other)

I played some people who just bunkered up and waited for the 10 Krogoths or a billion Mavericks, soooooooo boring. :s

Digit

 

[Snuffles]

The thing about TA is that your units were so intelligent. You could give a patrol or move command to a unit production building and then produce units from it and never need to give them a direct order. That way you could focus on tactics with the more specialised units. E.g. Fighters could be set to life long patrols when made, freeing up more time to direct bombers personally.

I find with DoW, WC and the like that while i'm controlling one unit or group of units the rest of them suffer from not having me there to babysit them.

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Total Annihilation is great. Is it imbalanced? Perhaps, but what other game allows you to build yourself back to a fighting force from one single construction unit? Or from any place on the map? You get wiped out on the land, just move to the sea. I've actually played several coop games where that's happenned to us, one guy got wiped off the map and built their base back at sea.

 

[roguefrog]

Yea, TA is the only RTS game I've played in which a good player can, after suffering a horrendous defeat in a single pitched battle, retreat, and with some cleverness, survive long enough to win back lost ground and move on to victory. This is simply not possible in Starcraft, C&C, Age of Empires, or just about any RTS game with limited resources for the simple reason that you will run out of vespene gas, ore, wood, or whatever it is that particular game uses long before you have any chance of recovering. Dawn of War actually reminded me of TA's cool resource system.

Also gotta love the realistic physics, 3D terrain, unit control options, entire interface with infinite queue ability for everything, open-ended build structure hierarchy and kickin' Soundtrack (Jeremy Soule). Man the more I think about this game the more I wish there were games with at least half its features.

could never find the expansion packs for TA

That's a bummer. The first Expansion was the shinning example of what all expansions should aspire to be. It added so much to the game that without it, you're really missing a lot.

 

[Ellester]

Doesn't work. Damn.

RA2 isn’t compatible with XP. I loaded the original and the original Yuri's revenge (not mine) on an XP machine (at work) and it worked fine. I then bought the RA2 + Yuri bundle and tried to install it at home on XP (not service pack 2) and I can't get it to work. There isn't a RA2 patch for XP, so they say you have to emulate it as win 98 or something to get it to work.

What you have to do is right click on the yuri.exe and go to properties. Click on the compatibility tab and click on the checkbox in compatibility mode. Choose Win 98/Me from the dropdownlist. It will then try to run the program in a version of win 98, or something. This might work for you. If this doesn’t work, then uninstall yuri and reinstall, but make sure the .exe has the compatibility mode switched to win 98.

I take no blame if this fucks up for you, but it is a way to get RA2 to run on XP machines.

 

[Vykromond]

Which is why WC2 will always be king: balance.

This is the same WC2 where no one ever played Humans, right?

 

[Fez]

You must have felt very passionate on the subject of balance in WC2 to join up and flame someone three months after their comment with your first post.

 

[Vykromond]

You must have felt very passionate on the subject of balance in WC2 to join up and flame someone three months after their comment with your first post.

Intensely passionate. Intensely.

(Really, I just didn't check the dates, because it was the third topic from the top.)
(I also didn't realise that what I said constituted a flame, using some of the other threads here as a meterstick.)

EDIT: misspelled "some," because i'm a fuckwad

 

[Fez]

Don't worry, it's slow in this sub forum. Welcome to the Codex.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Humans always kicked the shit out of Orcs. They even do it in the storyline!

 

[Fez]

Humans Vs Orcs, the heat is on!

 

[Lady Armageddona]

Actually, for me the best RTS is still Warlords Battlecry. And 2. But not 3 (I still have my doubts about that one).
The resource gathering (or rather lack of it, something I have always hated in most RTS) combined with the sheer number of races and heroes available makes is quite cool for me.

 

[Fez]

Did you try out Ground Control? You'd probably like that as it avoided the resource gathering aspect too. It came out a good while ago and you can get it for nothing now. The sequel was considered a let down though. The Total War games had the resources part streamlined to the bare minimum, with it seperated to another board, and had pure RTS combat for the battlefields. Any of them could be worth you giving them a try. The first two Total War games will work on older PCs too.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Play Ground Control. Stay the hell away from Ground Control 2. Different development team entirely.

 

[Flink]

Blood lust for the Orcs was over-powered as fuck in WC2 though...

DoW has the worst balance in RTS history. Space Marines first get the super dreadnoughts, and if you've got superior skill to outplay those, you get hit in the balls by Terminators.

Ground Control was neat. But yeah, GC2 was crap.

 

[Lady Armageddona]

I never have had the interest to play GC since it seemed too much of the tactical strategy type, rather than RTS.
But then again, I still might give it a try.
And yeah, I hate resource gathering. It is crap in 90 % of RTS titles.

 

[Fez]

Well, Flink, the funny part is that now that the "Pro" gamer types have had time to learn to use the races in DoW, they all use the Eldar or Orc as the best to win matches with. The Chaos race is crap when you play against a decent player, and the Space Marines are the average team that will struggle when good Eldar or Orc are on the field. That might change if the balance is altered ina patch or expansion. The crazy pro gamers who work out all the numbers and multiplayer tactics are the best gauge for these things.