Is it trendy in RPGCodex to dislike Bethesda, Bioware, etc?

[Nael]

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

You fucking little cunt

Your pespective of an outsider is naive and uninformed, even if you think it is clear-minded. There's a series of causes as to why a game is liked or not. We are an intellectualist community, so we don't discuss about our feelings and first impressions, and we're not about to discuss yours. Try to figure out the arguments and you'll see that it all makes sense. Perhaps there is a bit of hyperbole going on, as you say, but no one except Volourn can't make the distinction between figures of style and content with a minimum of effort. Of course, there's also a fair amount of posters who never post anything worthwhile and spew out the general opinion, but that is needed : it is what makes rpg codex a prestigious magazine, the fact that people are willing to follow its general concenssus... more or less.

For example, to help you a bit here, the reason why games like Fallout 3, Dragon Age, and so on, are not liked, are more than a simple immediate jugement that you, as an ignorant and candid little cunt, can spew out. You have to consider the history of roleplaying games in general, design standards, litterary standards, what is expected, what are the hopes and dissapointments, what is creative, what was done and what could be done better, and so on and so forth. All of this culture is assumed on these forums - without it of course it seems silly, because well shit, everything seems silly to an outsider who doesn't get the context.

I know I'm being trolled, don't worry. Everything is a big troll. Derp. Fuck this shit, where is my armor and lance i have a tournament to go to soon

Every post by Serious_Business is pure gold. You are the best poster on the Codex

 

[donjn]

Intellectuals curse more than drunken sailors. Fact.

Need a citation on that my friend..

 

[hoverdog]

No, Drog was a Arcanum modder who snapped and now comes on the Codex with all these alts trying to pose as a new member who tries to stir up trouble by agreeing with the hive mind on some things but hates on one of the Codex's favorite games like Fallout, or..

...or, he pretends to like some games that the Codex hates.

Oh I see. I wish I was a modder. Well if you see my posts they date way back. I have had this username for a while and posted in this Ultima VII thread from January of 2009:

http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php ... highlight=

oh yes, it was very cunning drog my friend

 

[donjn]

Every post by Serious_Business is pure gold. You are the best poster on the Codex

Of course you think that. You are part of this RPG Codex "hive" mind

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

No, Drog was a Arcanum modder who snapped and now comes on the Codex with all these alts trying to pose as a new member who tries to stir up trouble by agreeing with the hive mind on some things but hates on one of the Codex's favorite games like Fallout, or..

...or, he pretends to like some games that the Codex hates.

Oh I see. I wish I was a modder. Well if you see my posts they date way back. I have had this username for a while and posted in this Ultima VII thread from January of 2009:

http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php ... highlight=

Look, if you want to prove you aren't Drog, then just keep posting for awhile. Most Drog alts die before hitting 100 posts, so if you make it past that mark you either aren't Drog or you've already accepted being Drog. Up your postcount pointlessy in random thread and you'll stop getting accusations thrown at you.

Also, this was a wasted post at a Drog alt

 

[Monocause]

My point is, Oblivion and Fallout 3 are not AS BAD as you guys say they are. In fact, I think they are good. Not great, but good.

That's all very nice. Every man is different. Every man has a right to hold his own opinion on a given matter. Different does not mean: worse.

Now that the usually obligatory bunch of truisms is out of the way you could provide, you know, an argument to substantiate the claim that these games are good. The fact that you liked them means fuck all to anyone else than yourself.

 

[Angthoron]

Intellectuals curse more than drunken sailors. Fact.

Need a citation on that my friend..

Sure, why not:

You fucking little cunt

There's one. Seriously though, the American artists in France in 1930ies was a bunch of rowdy drunks screwing around and pissing away their family estate, and if you expect they were simultaneously polite and gentile, well, I think you've likely never met drunken people pissing away their estates in France in 1930ies while thinking they're terribly witty and talented. This is of course "outsider" influence, but it was an intellectual elite of the time.

Same goes for any nation with a clearly self-determined "intellectual" circles whose entertainment tends to end up towards the decadent end of the spectrum. It's all a beautiful tale about how intellectual elite is all nice and proper, but it's not exactly an image that holds up when you get to see their squabbles.

 

[Admiral jimbob]

Intellectuals curse more than drunken sailors. Fact.

Need a citation on that my friend..

My sweet little whorish Nora I did as you told me, you dirty little girl, and pulled myself off twice when I read your letter. I am delighted to see that you do like being fucked arseways. Yes, now I can remember that night when I fucked you for so long backwards. It was the dirtiest fucking I ever gave you, darling. My prick was stuck in you for hours, fucking in and out under your upturned rump. I felt your fat sweaty buttocks under my belly and saw your flushed face and mad eyes. At every fuck I gave you your shameless tongue came bursting out through your lips and if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora's fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.

You say when I go back you will suck me off and you want me to lick your cunt, you little depraved blackguard. I hope you will surprise me some time when I am asleep dressed, steal over to me with a whore's glow in your slumberous eyes, gently undo button after button in the fly of my trousers and gently take out your lover's fat mickey, lap it up in your moist mouth and suck away at it till it gets fatter and stiffer and comes off in your mouth. Sometimes too I shall surprise you asleep, lift up your skirts and open your drawers gently, then lie down gently by you and begin to lick lazily round your bush. You will begin to stir uneasily then I will lick the lips of my darling's cunt. You will begin to groan and grunt and sigh and fart with lust in your sleep. Then I will lick up faster and faster like a ravenous dog until your cunt is a mass of slime and your body wriggling wildly.

Goodnight, my little farting Nora, my dirty little fuckbird! There is one lovely word, darling, you have underlined to make me pull myself off better. Write me more about that and yourself, sweetly, dirtier, dirtier.

 

[donjn]

That's all very nice. Every man is different. Every man has a right to hold his own opinion on a given matter. Different does not mean: worse.

Now that the usually obligatory bunch of truisms is out of the way you could provide, you know, an argument to substantiate the claim that these games are good. The fact that you liked them means fuck all to anyone else than yourself.

I appreciate your tone here. You seem to be level headed.

All I can do is explain WHY I like these games. They may not be the reasons you like them. I am a legs man. Most men like tits more. I do not. It would be hard for me to convince you to like legs more than tits if you were a tits man.

I like Fallout 3 and Oblivion because I am absolutely addicted to open-ended games. I love to have that feelings of climbing a mountain or walking into an abandoned post nuclear town. I am into art, a graphic designer, so the "feeling" of an area really helps. I love that in both of these games my own personal quest, is to check out that compass and see what little place I can discover next. To me, this is what an adventure game is all about. Exploration. No loading zones. Arcanum has loading but I still consider that an open ended game.

Look at the games I like:

Ultima VII
Arcanum
Morrowind
Daggerfall
Gothic 3
Oblivion
Fallout 3
Fallout New Vegas
Divine Divinity
Divine Divinity II

And the games that just did not do it for me:

Mass Effect 1 and 2
Dragon Age
Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2

Anything that is basically "on rails" does not work for me. I need to feel free, to go anywhere I want, at any time. Any game that has this quality and gives me complete freedom wins me over, even if if it lacks some of the things that make an RPG great. Now some games do this better than others. Gothic 3 felt like a real environment, much more than Oblivion. But I need that freedom..

This is just my opinion.

 

[Jack]

I like Fallout 3 and Oblivion because I am absolutely addicted to open-ended games.

Confirmed Drog alt.

 

[donjn]

I like Fallout 3 and Oblivion because I am absolutely addicted to open-ended games.

Confirmed Drog alt.

So all RPG fans who like open ended games and post on here are Drog?

This is funny though. Guys remember. You can't prove a negative. So I it is up to you to prove I am Drog, not for me to prove I am not.

Ask me questions. Maybe contact the admin..

I feel like milking this some more.

Yes I am Drog! MUAHAHA!

 

[RatFink]

make someone prove the open endedness of fallout 3 and oblivion. might surprise you

 

[Angthoron]

If you're not Drog, just don't answer to those posts and they'll eventually stop.

If you're Drog, get a life.

 

[donjn]

Drog Black Tooth
Master of Arcanum

Looks like he has a history of having a large ego and wanted to moderate his own thread. Interesting.

 

[Konjad]

hey drog

 

[donjn]

hey drog

Hey whats up man?

Okay fine I am busted. I am Drog. You guys are too good.

I guess back then I demanded too much from RPGCodex and my head was a bit inflated. But I have changed now.

In other words, I am sorry for how I acted..

 

[Jools]

pan·cake (pnkk)

n.
A thin cake made of batter that is poured onto a hot greased surface and cooked on both sides until brown. Also called flannel cake, flapjack, griddlecake, hotcake; also called regionally battercake.

 

[Nael]

Drog Black Tooth
Master of Arcanum

Looks like he has a history of having a large ego and wanted to moderate his own thread. Interesting.

At least no one thought you were Cleve.

I had to show some love for the niggers and sapiens to prove I wasn't a neanderthal. I'm still confused by the whole thing.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

obvious drog alt is obvious. 4/10

 

[donjn]

I knew that RPG Codex has always liked Arcanum as one of their favorites. I always assumed that the work I did on that game would raise my status here.

I was wrong. It was fun though.

 

[~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-AIN'T]

pan·cake Also called flannel cake, griddlecake, battercake.

 

[Sceptic]

God, why do you people even bother answering? This:

Take Oblivion vs Gothic 3 here. Upon release, Oblivion was light years ahead in terms of polish and performance and bugs.

should be enough grounds to ignore everything else.

 

[Crispy]

Drog is the GRPG equivalent of Andhaira. We just can't resist posting in his threads.

 

[donjn]

God, why do you people even bother answering? This:

Take Oblivion vs Gothic 3 here. Upon release, Oblivion was light years ahead in terms of polish and performance and bugs.

should be enough grounds to ignore everything else.

My gosh it is funny how father time makes the memory suffer.

Do you have any idea how bad Gothic 3 was in terms of performance and bugs when it came out? It was the Ultima IX for 2006.

Oblivon was light years ahead by default.

Jesus Christ dude.

 

[sgc_meltdown]

The codex is more generous and persistant with its rage if games garner more acclaim than less well known yet equivalent counterparts.

This starting point then feeds on itself whenever news posts come in further emphasizing the percieved quality of the former games and their soon-to come sequels.

And since the games industry is incestuous and will swap IPs or settings around in a game of hot potato fans of both sides will take issue whenever this happens both prior and after release.

In short this is a supply and demand issue.