Is NWN2 worth playing?

[btbgfel]

MotB is great,SoZ is solid enough.
OC may be enjoyable IF one can get used to one of camera types AND find a way to kill trash mobs quickly.(code blessed of waukeen into an toggleable aura which instant-kill orcs etc.)

 

[Krivol]

Controlling your NPCs makes you wish for nuclear winter.

No, really, I tried so hard to turn this game (gameplay wise) to some kind of BG1 in 3d, but all I got was mage running like maniac into HtH battle with the dragon/githyanki/lizzardman/your mum . I believe even OC would be passable with proper camera, GUI and AI (or possibility of controling NPCs like in BG or ID).

Also OC has stupid ideas in terms of developing NPCs - like dwarf getting from decent warrior to incredibly bad monk.

 

[laclongquan]

Yes you should

Leaving aside the MotB and the SoZ expansions, just consider the Original Campaign alone.

You totally can play party of six like the golden age if you willing to use the expand party console command, or a tiny mod. If it's too easy for you, kick the difficulty to hardest, which I assure you will be worth it. (Side bonus: combat will be fast and/or deadly)

Turn the companion AI off. There's command for it and the whiners around here never use that button ingame. The companions can be your meat puppet obeying your everywish for just a single button.

You can recruit plenty of companions. Handmade, with companion's quest and dialog and everything.

The above whiner whine about change your dwarf fighter to a monk. This is like some people insist on giving Ian (or Sulik) a SMG then whine about their abysmal aim. You dont have to do it, but dont whine when you do.

Crossroad Keep section is the king of stronghold minigame of all time, bar none. There's still nothing else come close to it, though the upcoming Kingmaker can be a hopeful contender for the throne.

Finally, let me summon the game master who will explain why you play this game: Abracadabra Lilura

 

[Scroo]

It's perfectly playable imho and as usual when threads like these come up I want to show my playtime in NWN2. All OC :3

Trust me I know good games when I see them

PS

 

[Barnabas]

I enjoyed the oc one of my favorite games. It's a very high fantasy cliche

 

[Lilura]

Finally, let me summon the game master who will explain why you play this game: Abracadabra Lilura

Meh, can't be assed explaining something to a homeless cretin like the OP no doubt is; would rather just link to my blog write-up.

 

[Projas]

Also OC has stupid ideas in terms of developing NPCs - like dwarf getting from decent warrior to incredibly bad monk.

That's a lesson the game's trying to teach you. That following your dreams is stupid.

 

[Luckmann]

Is NWN2 worth playing?

Yes, but only so you can play Mask of the Betrayer without being confused as to what is going on. Treat the original campaign as an introductory adventure, the shitty prologue to something great that doesn't really relate that much to the aforementioned prologue.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

^^

It has a barbarian class, why is this even a question?

Also

You should just play those Conan custom modules over either though.

'sright.

 

[Vorark]

Just read about the OC and skip to MoTB, else you risk burnout.

 

[Roscoe Scaggs]

Man you guys were not kidding about the Orc caves. Just winding up Act 1 of the OC now. I certainly don't hate the game, but I'm hopeful that the best is yet to come.

Don't know if I would have been able to manage if spells had friendly fire, melee gets so tedious.

 

[Krivol]

I'm hopeful that the best is yet to come.

True - it's called Mask of the Betrayer.

 

[Haplo]

OC is so-so. Better then NWN1 OC at least. MotB is pretty good, although the epic level power creep IS quite ridiculous.

Personally I liked the Mysteries of Westgate a lot. Middle-level DnD adventure done right. Things are not ridiculous, but fun. I also second the Maimed God Saga custom module recommendation. A very good cleric-centric middle-level module.

SoZ has some perks, but the almost nonexistant location/dungeon design (almost every area is just a tiny little map) means I don't recommend actually playing it. Buy the expansion and use its assets to play the Legacy of White Plume Mountain custom module instead. It offers a much better exploration experience.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

It offers a much better exploration experience.

But for its stability, it'd be a decent mod.

 

[Haplo]

It offers a much better exploration experience.

But for its stability, it'd be a decent mod.

True, I'll admit giving up on it. Still, what I have played was far better then SoZ.

 

[Barnabas]

It's good even my cat plays she likes the tieflings hehehehe

 

[Excidium II]

If you're a NEET sure but if you have limited time to play games play something that is actually good.

 

[YES!]

In my opinion Storm of Zehyr is pretty good but not tough enough but still worth playing. Mysteries of Westgate is worth playing and has some truly tough encounters. The main reason to play in my opinion is to play through the persistent worlds, specifically three that stood out to me

1) Something Something Buldar's Gate something (a very popular nwn2 server)
2) Realms of Trinity - Has a bunch of campaigns to play through and great character building options
4) Planescape something - Nice class and character building options and people seem to love the setting.

The rest seem to be some sort of sex fetish weird shit.

 

[JasonNH]

It's good even my cat plays she likes the tieflings hehehehe

Man, as soon as I saw the screen, the music from the High Harvest Fair started playing in my head. I spent a lot of time in that game...

 

[Lilura]

Man, as soon as I saw the screen, the music from the High Harvest Fair started playing in my head.

That's a bit sad that you play through skippable tutorial prologues; my heart goes out to you.

 

[laclongquan]

Storm of Zehyr's structures of dungeon maps make Persistent not worth the investment. Just extend Haste should be enough for those tiny map.

 

[laclongquan]

Anyone ever raged over the fake duskwood bow that merchant foist upon your foster father?

Damnit! I was planning to keep that weapon for the early stage of the game!

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

The combat in NWN 1 based games is actually very good and enjoyable, the aspect which makes it suck is the lack of party control. The design of the combat and its mechanics is excellent as its it monster variety and design.

Well, I disagree. NwN2 is worse, certainly, but it is because it tried to implement party control and - God Almighty - Attacks of Opportunity in an engine that wasn't designed for party play. Even the way characters move in NwN feels awkward. The whole battle line feels like a castle of cards about to collapse at any moment. Compare it to the much more precise controls you'll find in PoE and the IE games. That said, I guess the combat would be bearable in NwN1, as long as you're ok with the 'party' size and as long as the module has sparse combat. My advice is playing nothing more complex or subtle than a self buffing fighter.

This is a vid I did for youtube nearly 10 years ago (hence 480p):



Which clearly demonstrates how NWN1 has very sound combat mechanics. Full control, as in it does exactly what you tell it to do, has lots of small details like knockdown and auras, plenty of information about what is happening, instant recognition of your orders, dynamic and exciting encounters, etc etc. It just takes someone willing to put the effort in to make a mod that utilises all these factors well for the whole game.

One fucker clicked disagree in less time that it would have taken to read this, let alone watch the vid, LMAO. Oh, and it was Delt. Well there ya go folks...
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[Delterius]

Your video has someone standing still for a solid minute, no doubt relieved that this fight against what appears to be two greater wyrms doesn't require the control of more than a single character. All the while you're fiddling with a submenu that stubbornly refuses to show a decent amount of information in your gigantic 10 year old screen. That is not an example of very good combat.

NwN has all the cute little details that make for a half decent ruleset. Its excellence lies in the community it spawned, where modules are more often than not praised for their writing, which is telling. The game's controls just did not age very well in comparison with the IE games and some of the other titles that came out since.

 

[IncendiaryDevice]

Fuck off you disingenuous twat.