Game News Jettatura is a Wizardry-inspired dungeon crawler a decade in the making

[Thac0]

I wish western blobbers would finally copy that idea, it can't be too hard to build a rudimentary version of grid cartographer into your game's inventory screen.

Casus does that, but nobody played it (neither did I tbh; been sitting on my wishlist forever).

That is really interesting, I wonder why this one flopped so trendemously hard even compared to other indie blobbers? Not enough marketing? Single character turn based blobbing being an inherent mismatch? Too high a price?

 

[Grauken]

That is really interesting, I wonder why this one flopped so trendemously hard even compared to other indie blobbers? Not enough marketing? Single character turn based blobbing being an inherent mismatch? Too high a price?

It has a really bland look, the combat is rather cumbersome, the enemies are generic and boring, and overall, while the map thing is interesting the rest of the game is kinda slow and not all that compelling

 

[Dorateen]

[ Codex review is not ecstatic about it .

Which Codex Review?

 

[Mortmal]

[ Codex review is not ecstatic about it .

Which Codex Review?

Felipepe first review.

 

[mondblut]

Codex review is not ecstatic about it .

Pepepepepe is better suited to review Roblox than oldschool RPG goodness.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

• Respects your time - prioritizes gameplay and dungeon exploration; no excessively-meandering "storytelling" here!

• Absolutely no hand-holding - draw your own damn maps!

This is a complete contradiction. And for godsakes, fucking wizardry 7 had mapping in game.

Graphics look like plastic, game seems to pride itself on having a target audience of one autistic person on codex, probably the guy who made it.
The term "Features" is a big stretch for a list of reasons why the game is bad. "Oh, AC goes downward from 10? Well shit, then I'm in!" Said nobody ever, who the fuck cares. That only ever made sense in the context of thaco. Now we have these new fangled computers that can do the math, so we don't need a system built to be easy to work with in one's head. Not that a traditional DnD ac setup is a bad thing necessarily, but its also not a good thing necessarily.

"Over 200 creature types!"
Seriously? What is this, some as seen on TV salad fork or some dumb shit? Why the lame ass marketing gimmicks? And let me guess, those 201 creature types consist of 10 models endlessly palette swapped, right?

Well it looks like there might be 2 people in this thread who will buy it and never play it, and still claim it's the best game ever since grimwah, but this is gonna flop hard and it's not even a little bit of a mystery why.

Sorry megidolaon . Good for you for creating something but I hope you weren't hoping to make any money with it. Hopefully it's a game you love.

 

[Grauken]

Graphics look like plastic, game seems to pride itself on having a target audience of one autistic person on codex, probably the guy who made it.

In theory 3 people, the guy who made it, me and aweigh (though he hates everything not done by a Japanese, so he might not like it because of that).

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Graphics look like plastic, game seems to pride itself on having a target audience of one autistic person on codex, probably the guy who made it.

In theory 3 people, the guy who made it, me and aweigh (though he hates everything not done by a Japanese, so he might not like it because of that).

Well uh... congratulations on your artisanal blobber I guess.

 

[V_K]

Graphics look like plastic, game seems to pride itself on having a target audience of one autistic person on codex, probably the guy who made it.

In theory 3 people, the guy who made it, me and aweigh (though he hates everything not done by a Japanese, so he might not like it because of that).

You're forgetting CryptRat and Strange Fellow.

 

[Grauken]

You're forgetting CryptRat and Strange Fellow.

You're right, and a couple of others.

I just find it funny that on a niche gaming site people ask why someone would develop his dream game and not just do something more mainstream. To me, this looks exactly like the game that the dev wanted to develop, so why would he change it, he's obviously not getting rich.

 

[V_K]

I just find it funny that on a niche gaming site people ask why someone would develop his dream game and not just do something more mainstream.

Because it's not a niche gaming site. It's a niche game hating site.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

You're forgetting CryptRat and Strange Fellow.

You're right, and a couple of others.

I just find it funny that on a niche gaming site people ask why someone would develop his dream game and not just do something more mainstream. To me, this looks exactly like the game that the dev wanted to develop, so why would he change it, he's obviously not getting rich.

they ask why because optional features can be added that widen the appeal of the game which improve the odds of the dev making further games in the future

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

I wish western blobbers would finally copy that idea, it can't be too hard to build a rudimentary version of grid cartographer into your game's inventory screen.

Casus does that, but nobody played it (neither did I tbh; been sitting on my wishlist forever).

Was Casus given a review here?

 

[Mortmal]

You're forgetting CryptRat and Strange Fellow.

You're right, and a couple of others.

I just find it funny that on a niche gaming site people ask why someone would develop his dream game and not just do something more mainstream. To me, this looks exactly like the game that the dev wanted to develop, so why would he change it, he's obviously not getting rich.

Sure but there we are getting into a game only you, aweigh and the dev will play , between that and a mainstream game there is some margin.

 

[megidolaon]

I'm not entirely closed-off to the idea of an in-game map (in fact, the code for automap already exists -- it's just that it's only available in Edit mode), so I'll give it some more thought between now and release.

If it is added as a gameplay tool, I still don't want it to be effectively act as an easy "get out of sticky situations free" button -- that is definitely something I want to avoid. Maybe it can be implemented via a spell where the magician's Intelligence and/or Perception attributes would influence the degree as to how reliable (or not) the displayed map imagery is. Or maybe they can be scarce, one-time-use map items which crumble to dust after use, encouraging player to only use it when absolutely needed.

Again, I'll give it some thought.

 

[Grauken]

Sure but there we are getting into a game only you, aweigh and the dev will play , between that and a mainstream game there is some margin.

True, but adding a map or not is like adding a beginner difficulty to Dark Souls. It would sell more copies but it would fundamentally weaken the game itself.

 

[Mortmal]

I'm not entirely closed-off to the idea of an in-game map (in fact, the code for automap already exists -- it's just that it's only available in Edit mode), so I'll give it some more thought between now and release.

If it is added as a gameplay tool, I still don't want it to be effectively act as an easy "get out of sticky situations free" button -- that is definitely something I want to avoid. Maybe it can be implemented via a spell where the magician's Intelligence and/or Perception attributes would influence the degree as to how reliable (or not) the displayed map imagery is. Or maybe they can be scarce, one-time-use map items which crumble to dust after use, encouraging player to only use it when absolutely needed.

Again, I'll give it some thought.

Like in elminage, and then everyone hex edit their saves to have unlimited maps. Embrace modernity , its not compromising your honor that much, such feature is still like 30 years old.

 

[V_K]

If it is added as a gameplay tool, I still don't want it to be effectively act as an easy "get out of sticky situations free" button -- that is definitely something I want to avoid. Maybe it can be implemented via a spell where the magician's Intelligence and/or Perception attributes would influence the degree as to how reliable (or not) the displayed map imagery is.

That's not a bad idea.
Also, I looked up the old development thread for this game - you also had an idea of a monster with a special attack that deletes your map. That'd also be an interesting mechanic.

 

[Butter]

Zelda and Thief both handle maps better than the vast majority of RPGs, including blobbers. Zelda requires you to find the map for each dungeon (and then you still need to find the compass to see your location on the map). Thief gives you hand-drawn maps with varying levels of detail, and you obviously can't see your location on the map, so you have to use it like you would a real map. Wizardry 7 gives you an auto-map, but you have to find it before you can use it, and the level of detail it shows is based on your Mapping skill. All 3 of these implementations are more interesting than a basic bitch auto-map.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Zelda and Thief both handle maps better than the vast majority of RPGs, including blobbers. Zelda requires you to find the map for each dungeon (and then you still need to find the compass to see your location on the map). Thief gives you hand-drawn maps with varying levels of detail, and you obviously can't see your location on the map, so you have to use it like you would a real map. Wizardry 7 gives you an auto-map, but you have to find it before you can use it, and the level of detail it shows is based on your Mapping skill. All 3 of these implementations are more interesting than a basic bitch auto-map.

Zelda literally fills in the map as you explore. It's an automap by every definition. And yeah, it's great. It's always great when a game automatically handles tedious nonsense like dice rolling, quest tracking, and mapping.

I mean, what difference does this make? Filling in a grid on graph paper isn't exactly skilled work, any moron can map something out of paper. Why not let the computer be that moron instead of the player?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Why would there just be a map of a dungeon sitting around in the dungeon?
Sounds dumb.

 

[Darkozric]

Filling in a grid on graph paper isn't exactly skilled work, any moron can map something out of paper. Why not let the computer be that moron instead of the player?

Morons deserve their game. Let them have it, be respectful.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Filling in a grid on graph paper isn't exactly skilled work, any moron can map something out of paper. Why not let the computer be that moron instead of the player?

Morons deserve their game. Let them have it, be respectful.

Hey, mad respect for someone coding their own dream game. But I feel the need to comment on the utter alienness of their strange dream.

 

[Darkozric]

strange dream

It's not a dream, it's paper graph autism.

 

[Tweed]

Looks hideous and sounds hideous and not in a good way.