I long for another game like Kenshi. Is there anything that remotely comes close (except maybe Mount and Blade)?
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Kenshi - open-ended sandbox RPG set in a desert world
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oh yes, I liked the earlier Sea Dogs games (I played the one that was named Pirates of the Caribbeans at this time).
Gregz
Arcane
It's a great game, but I think I ruined it for myself with the Recruit Prisoners mod.
Is this multiplayer? I might buy it over xmas break and play it with friends.
I don't want an mmo, but multiplayer would be nice.
I don't want an mmo, but multiplayer would be nice.
Gregz
Arcane
I can't find this on Steam, is there another name for it?
From the no ratings I see it doesn't have multiplayer.
It still looks like a fun game.
My xmas tradition is to get together with bro's and play a random multiplayer game, co-op ofc.
Doesn't have to be a game I play a long time, just something random.
I'll check it out at some point though.
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New Kenshi 2 update! Shouldn't get too excited, though.
Interior Object and Furniture Placement Modes in Kenshi 2
One of the key elements of Kenshi is the Building feature; finding the right spot to build an outpost or buying some buildings as a base and filling the external and interior space with furniture and objects. Building feature continues to be the key element of Kenshi 2, with enhanced modes that enable players to build and place objects with ease.
In this update, we asked Craig (his profile below) about the new modes for interior object placement for Kenshi 2. You'll find below some sneak peek videos and descriptions on what we could expect from the feature.
Below are the interior views of the building provided by Nicolò (his profile below). Furniture is still being modelled (no spoilers!) so you'll only see the shapes here, but the images demonstrate how the objects are placed against the curved walls and straight alignments such as shelves and internal walls.
(The rest of this is just team developments and the like.)
Interior Object and Furniture Placement Modes in Kenshi 2
One of the key elements of Kenshi is the Building feature; finding the right spot to build an outpost or buying some buildings as a base and filling the external and interior space with furniture and objects. Building feature continues to be the key element of Kenshi 2, with enhanced modes that enable players to build and place objects with ease.
In this update, we asked Craig (his profile below) about the new modes for interior object placement for Kenshi 2. You'll find below some sneak peek videos and descriptions on what we could expect from the feature.
Below are the interior views of the building provided by Nicolò (his profile below). Furniture is still being modelled (no spoilers!) so you'll only see the shapes here, but the images demonstrate how the objects are placed against the curved walls and straight alignments such as shelves and internal walls.
(The rest of this is just team developments and the like.)
News from the Studio: Another Lockdown and A Virtual Event
Starting 5 November, England has gone back into another lockdown for at least a month, which means everyone at Lo-Fi is now working from home. The lockdown can be difficult for some members who prefer to work in the Studio, but we're planning lots of online gaming sessions to keep our team from going stir crazy!
We are all embracing remote communication and online meetings during the lockdown, but our virtual experience reached new heights when we attended the China Game Fest in late October. Lo-Fi set up a virtual booth within the virtual conference centre where visitors walked around led by a friendly virtual escort. The event was visited by more than 50,000 visitors over the 3 days (23rd – 25th) with impressive media coverage in China.
Hello Everyone, from Chris, Nicolò and Craig!
In the last update, we introduced several new team members who have joined the Studio for the development of Kenshi 2. We'll continue the introduction of 3 members, old and new, on who they are, how they are set up at home, and what they are up to outside of work.
Chris Hunt – Head Developer and CEO
Home Setup
Life Balance
Outside of games I have 2 major interests. The biggest is motorcycle adventures. I have a 1989 Kawasaki KLR which is basically the AK47 of bikes: simple and reliable. I can repair it by the side of the road in the middle of a desert with nothing but a spanner and some cable ties. I once rebuilt the carburetor in the darkness on a beach with a torch in my mouth, without knowing what a carburetor was. I once rode up a ski slope in the Pyrenees and camped at the top, and found the next morning that a gang of wild horses had beaten up and possibly molested my bike which made all the battery water drain out. I rode across half of Spain with no battery, making sure I only parked on the top of slopes so I could bump-start the engine again. I love it, these little things add the adventure and create memories.
I’ve since rebuilt and upgraded the bike from the ground up preparing for a big adventure that I wanted to do in summer 2020 but the virus ruined that, so we’ll see. My dream is to cross Mongolia.
I’m also building a 4x4 camper van to go snowboarding with, but that’s still in early stages. I was originally going to use an old army truck, but that proved way too impractical.
Snowboarding is my other love, but it’s a very season and weather dependent thing so I don’t get to do as much as I’d like, especially as I’m so fussy about snow conditions.
Nicolò Zubbini – Environment Artist
Hi, I'm Nicolò, an environment and hard surface artist. I specialise in architecture, but also work on natural and mechanical environment elements, and vehicle models. I have a passion for sci-fi, and any weathered and grungy setting.
I studied architecture, and have initially worked on architectural visualisation, followed by historical documentaries and hi-poly vfx environment. I started using Blender in 2008, and became passionate about its community and open source software. In 2012 I worked for the Blender Institute on the VFX open short movie, "Tears of Steel". More recently, I've been involved in game development, including Kenshi (for 2-3 months working for Sebastien Froncek, from whom I learnt a lot!)
Here are some of the works I've done for Kenshi (Warning! These are from Kenshi, NOT Kenshi 2! My work on Kenshi 2 appers in section above in ‘Interior Object and Furniture Placement Modes in Kenshi 2'). Please also note these are portfolio renders in Marmoset (a render engine for game assets), not in Ogre (Kenshi's actual game engine), so the models look a bit different from how they look in the game.
Having worked often with small indie teams, I have experience in level building, shading and light, using Unreal, Unity and other engines. I also do some scripting to automate my art workflow, using Python.
For Kenshi 2, I'm working on buildings and related props, such as furniture.
Home Setup
I've always worked remotely, and my home-studio setup is made up of a 'normal' mid-high tier gaming PC as a workstation, just with a colour-accurate monitor and a keyboard with custom layout and macro-pad.
Most game development tools are Windows-centric, so my workstation runs Windows, but I also keep a reliable Linux PC on the 2nd monitor with KVM switch, acting as spare/backup and files/media server.
Life Balance
In my free time … well, before 2020, I used to socialise more, like going to my favourite pub with friends and ride or work on my bicycle, but now I have more time to spend on my nerdier side: I guess I'll finish building my 3rd keyboard, start another career in Kerbal and find 10k pages of sci-fi saga to read.
Craig Tinney – Programming
Hello readers! I'm Craig, the newest addition to the Lo-Fi Games programming team. I've been helping to port Kenshi to Unreal Engine 4 for Kenshi 2 since I started back in April of this year.
Since I joined Lo-Fi during the UK lockdown period, I've yet to actually work in the office with the rest of the team, and I've been communicating with everyone online. Safe to say at this point, I'm itching to meet everyone face to face!
So far I've been involved with the new building placement tools mentioned in this post as well as general porting to unreal and a lot of things we're not quite ready to talk about yet (but they're really cool, honest!).
Life Balance
Outside of work, I make my own games on a much smaller scale than Kenshi. Usually, I make things in Pico 8, which is just about the cutest game engine in the world and everyone should know about. If you fancy checking out my games, they're all available for free at https://ctinney94.itch.io/
Lately I've been trying to find some non-screen focused hobbies due to spending so much more time indoors this year. As a result, I've gotten into building terrain for tabletop games with my housemate. Check out these rocks we made!
I've also started to make tapes of some of my favourite albums since acquiring my Dad's old hifi stack.
Please do not judge me for this, 2020 has all affected us all differently.
That will be the end of this community update. We love to hear your thoughts, especially on new interior furniture and object placement modes in Kenshi 2. Please follow us on Twitter and Facebook for news if you haven’t already, and if you'd rather receive this blogpost in a non-Steam way, they are available on our website and via our mailing list.
Stay safe and keep well!
Starting 5 November, England has gone back into another lockdown for at least a month, which means everyone at Lo-Fi is now working from home. The lockdown can be difficult for some members who prefer to work in the Studio, but we're planning lots of online gaming sessions to keep our team from going stir crazy!
We are all embracing remote communication and online meetings during the lockdown, but our virtual experience reached new heights when we attended the China Game Fest in late October. Lo-Fi set up a virtual booth within the virtual conference centre where visitors walked around led by a friendly virtual escort. The event was visited by more than 50,000 visitors over the 3 days (23rd – 25th) with impressive media coverage in China.
Hello Everyone, from Chris, Nicolò and Craig!
In the last update, we introduced several new team members who have joined the Studio for the development of Kenshi 2. We'll continue the introduction of 3 members, old and new, on who they are, how they are set up at home, and what they are up to outside of work.
Chris Hunt – Head Developer and CEO
Home Setup
Life Balance
Outside of games I have 2 major interests. The biggest is motorcycle adventures. I have a 1989 Kawasaki KLR which is basically the AK47 of bikes: simple and reliable. I can repair it by the side of the road in the middle of a desert with nothing but a spanner and some cable ties. I once rebuilt the carburetor in the darkness on a beach with a torch in my mouth, without knowing what a carburetor was. I once rode up a ski slope in the Pyrenees and camped at the top, and found the next morning that a gang of wild horses had beaten up and possibly molested my bike which made all the battery water drain out. I rode across half of Spain with no battery, making sure I only parked on the top of slopes so I could bump-start the engine again. I love it, these little things add the adventure and create memories.
I’ve since rebuilt and upgraded the bike from the ground up preparing for a big adventure that I wanted to do in summer 2020 but the virus ruined that, so we’ll see. My dream is to cross Mongolia.
I’m also building a 4x4 camper van to go snowboarding with, but that’s still in early stages. I was originally going to use an old army truck, but that proved way too impractical.
Snowboarding is my other love, but it’s a very season and weather dependent thing so I don’t get to do as much as I’d like, especially as I’m so fussy about snow conditions.
Nicolò Zubbini – Environment Artist
Hi, I'm Nicolò, an environment and hard surface artist. I specialise in architecture, but also work on natural and mechanical environment elements, and vehicle models. I have a passion for sci-fi, and any weathered and grungy setting.
I studied architecture, and have initially worked on architectural visualisation, followed by historical documentaries and hi-poly vfx environment. I started using Blender in 2008, and became passionate about its community and open source software. In 2012 I worked for the Blender Institute on the VFX open short movie, "Tears of Steel". More recently, I've been involved in game development, including Kenshi (for 2-3 months working for Sebastien Froncek, from whom I learnt a lot!)
Here are some of the works I've done for Kenshi (Warning! These are from Kenshi, NOT Kenshi 2! My work on Kenshi 2 appers in section above in ‘Interior Object and Furniture Placement Modes in Kenshi 2'). Please also note these are portfolio renders in Marmoset (a render engine for game assets), not in Ogre (Kenshi's actual game engine), so the models look a bit different from how they look in the game.
Having worked often with small indie teams, I have experience in level building, shading and light, using Unreal, Unity and other engines. I also do some scripting to automate my art workflow, using Python.
For Kenshi 2, I'm working on buildings and related props, such as furniture.
Home Setup
I've always worked remotely, and my home-studio setup is made up of a 'normal' mid-high tier gaming PC as a workstation, just with a colour-accurate monitor and a keyboard with custom layout and macro-pad.
Most game development tools are Windows-centric, so my workstation runs Windows, but I also keep a reliable Linux PC on the 2nd monitor with KVM switch, acting as spare/backup and files/media server.
Life Balance
In my free time … well, before 2020, I used to socialise more, like going to my favourite pub with friends and ride or work on my bicycle, but now I have more time to spend on my nerdier side: I guess I'll finish building my 3rd keyboard, start another career in Kerbal and find 10k pages of sci-fi saga to read.
Craig Tinney – Programming
Hello readers! I'm Craig, the newest addition to the Lo-Fi Games programming team. I've been helping to port Kenshi to Unreal Engine 4 for Kenshi 2 since I started back in April of this year.
Since I joined Lo-Fi during the UK lockdown period, I've yet to actually work in the office with the rest of the team, and I've been communicating with everyone online. Safe to say at this point, I'm itching to meet everyone face to face!
So far I've been involved with the new building placement tools mentioned in this post as well as general porting to unreal and a lot of things we're not quite ready to talk about yet (but they're really cool, honest!).
Life Balance
Outside of work, I make my own games on a much smaller scale than Kenshi. Usually, I make things in Pico 8, which is just about the cutest game engine in the world and everyone should know about. If you fancy checking out my games, they're all available for free at https://ctinney94.itch.io/
Lately I've been trying to find some non-screen focused hobbies due to spending so much more time indoors this year. As a result, I've gotten into building terrain for tabletop games with my housemate. Check out these rocks we made!
I've also started to make tapes of some of my favourite albums since acquiring my Dad's old hifi stack.
Please do not judge me for this, 2020 has all affected us all differently.
That will be the end of this community update. We love to hear your thoughts, especially on new interior furniture and object placement modes in Kenshi 2. Please follow us on Twitter and Facebook for news if you haven’t already, and if you'd rather receive this blogpost in a non-Steam way, they are available on our website and via our mailing list.
Stay safe and keep well!
Delterius
Arcane
So, there are some things here that were highlighted as "breaking the game". I'm going to share another, so that if you're willing to keep the game challenging you don't use it (much).
Combat in Kenshi is actually one of the best ones I've seen for a real time game. Why? Well... let me spark a comparison: a film is a series of slides, that at a certain speed, with some light coming from a lightbulb give the illusion of movement. This game is largely the same. The combat is actually turn-based if you watch very closely. It also follows some other rules (which I won't spoil, for the newbies browsing) but, for the most part, it is VERY well done.
HOWEVER, my statement above was incomplete. What I said fits for melee combat. Ranged combat is what I'm trying to draw attention to.
I am heading towards mid/late game now, and I had a guy with a toothpick. I had forgotten about him. Not even sure how I found a Masterwork Toothpick, but I just tossed bolts from any Dustmen Bandit Bowmen I found into his backpack and just let him casually sit back and shoot. He is also my medic, so that fit the role perfectly too. Slowly, I began to deck everyone out. Turtleneck shirts. Dustcoats. Samurai clothpants. Everyone having Masterwork versions of them. Good weapons. The drill.
And I forgot about him.
Until yesterday. When
I realized then that a full row of people like him would trivialize the game. So... erm... you've been warned.
Combat in Kenshi is actually one of the best ones I've seen for a real time game. Why? Well... let me spark a comparison: a film is a series of slides, that at a certain speed, with some light coming from a lightbulb give the illusion of movement. This game is largely the same. The combat is actually turn-based if you watch very closely. It also follows some other rules (which I won't spoil, for the newbies browsing) but, for the most part, it is VERY well done.
HOWEVER, my statement above was incomplete. What I said fits for melee combat. Ranged combat is what I'm trying to draw attention to.
I am heading towards mid/late game now, and I had a guy with a toothpick. I had forgotten about him. Not even sure how I found a Masterwork Toothpick, but I just tossed bolts from any Dustmen Bandit Bowmen I found into his backpack and just let him casually sit back and shoot. He is also my medic, so that fit the role perfectly too. Slowly, I began to deck everyone out. Turtleneck shirts. Dustcoats. Samurai clothpants. Everyone having Masterwork versions of them. Good weapons. The drill.
And I forgot about him.
Until yesterday. When
I gave him a Masterwork Eagle's Cross. >.<
I realized then that a full row of people like him would trivialize the game. So... erm... you've been warned.
Obsequious Approbation
Augur
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New community update. Apparently, the game exists in some fashion after all.
There's a lot of other boring stuff in the update, but I'll just post the actual meat and taters.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/233860/announcements/detail/2923366026547635254
There's a lot of other boring stuff in the update, but I'll just post the actual meat and taters.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/233860/announcements/detail/2923366026547635254
A smidgin of Kenshi 2 content
Environmentalism
From Environment Artist Oliver Hatton: "At the moment we're putting together two adjoining biomes so we can get to see all the amazing buildings and characters in situ, doing their thing. This biome blending will also help us identify any problems that are bound to arise, things like town sizes, over-budget texture limits and so on.
The voxel terrain can be fun to work on, with overhangs and caves being possible and re-editing areas much more hands-on than with elevation maps."
And now towns and settlements are beginning to emerge on the map, we should begin to get a much clearer view of the world. It'll be like our own little working death valley where we can test out a lot of the pain and suffering to come."
Gates
Look, it's a gate! Here's a few words from Concept Artist Christopher Schlesag on how the design of the gate came to be:
"The design of the gate was mostly influenced by the architecture of the main faction, which was already established. It is visually very sturdy and has simple geometry. For these defensive walls I wanted to incorporate more metal in comparison to the civilian buildings, which gives an even more militaristic feel.
These are the highest and thickest walls you will encounter in the game. We wanted the walls to be customizable to an extent, so they will consist of optional place-able modules like bastions, towers, and anti-climb extensions that will give advantages in several areas. For example, placing a tower on your wall will not only provide cover from ranged attacks and protect from environmental effects, but also increase the number of turrets you can place on this part of the wall. How much extensions the walls and bastions of a town have will also be a great indicator for how dangerous the surrounding lands are. We are also working on resolving placement-issues the walls in Kenshi 1 had."
Some, er, mishaps along the way
We also thought you might like to see this happy little accident tentatively titled "I'm just going to spin my arms in the air as I run and if you get hit, it's your own fault!" (thanks Craig):
From Technical Artist Victor Goossens: "What was meant to be happening was literally that the guy was just supposed to be running somewhere, but some animations broke in a bind pose. To explain a bind pose: it’s the thing that an animation is relative to. So if, for instance, an animation was animated with an A-pose as bind-pose, but then the bind-pose in engine is a T-pose (arms are higher), the arms will tilt up when playing that animation in-engine.
I think at that point in time half of our various reference poses (we use a cool blending system under the hood) were borked, so animations ended up being... Magical.
We also had people growing and shrinking vertically as they breathed because of this…"
Unscoring the World of Kenshi
Here's a little something we thought you might appreciate seeing. Originally recorded back in 2017 at GDC (remember events?) and posted yesterday: "Kole Hicks & Chris Hunt share the details behind crafting the music and sound for the gritty, unforgiving, and indifferent world of Kenshi."
Environmentalism
From Environment Artist Oliver Hatton: "At the moment we're putting together two adjoining biomes so we can get to see all the amazing buildings and characters in situ, doing their thing. This biome blending will also help us identify any problems that are bound to arise, things like town sizes, over-budget texture limits and so on.
The voxel terrain can be fun to work on, with overhangs and caves being possible and re-editing areas much more hands-on than with elevation maps."
And now towns and settlements are beginning to emerge on the map, we should begin to get a much clearer view of the world. It'll be like our own little working death valley where we can test out a lot of the pain and suffering to come."
Gates
Look, it's a gate! Here's a few words from Concept Artist Christopher Schlesag on how the design of the gate came to be:
"The design of the gate was mostly influenced by the architecture of the main faction, which was already established. It is visually very sturdy and has simple geometry. For these defensive walls I wanted to incorporate more metal in comparison to the civilian buildings, which gives an even more militaristic feel.
These are the highest and thickest walls you will encounter in the game. We wanted the walls to be customizable to an extent, so they will consist of optional place-able modules like bastions, towers, and anti-climb extensions that will give advantages in several areas. For example, placing a tower on your wall will not only provide cover from ranged attacks and protect from environmental effects, but also increase the number of turrets you can place on this part of the wall. How much extensions the walls and bastions of a town have will also be a great indicator for how dangerous the surrounding lands are. We are also working on resolving placement-issues the walls in Kenshi 1 had."
Some, er, mishaps along the way
We also thought you might like to see this happy little accident tentatively titled "I'm just going to spin my arms in the air as I run and if you get hit, it's your own fault!" (thanks Craig):
From Technical Artist Victor Goossens: "What was meant to be happening was literally that the guy was just supposed to be running somewhere, but some animations broke in a bind pose. To explain a bind pose: it’s the thing that an animation is relative to. So if, for instance, an animation was animated with an A-pose as bind-pose, but then the bind-pose in engine is a T-pose (arms are higher), the arms will tilt up when playing that animation in-engine.
I think at that point in time half of our various reference poses (we use a cool blending system under the hood) were borked, so animations ended up being... Magical.
We also had people growing and shrinking vertically as they breathed because of this…"
Unscoring the World of Kenshi
Here's a little something we thought you might appreciate seeing. Originally recorded back in 2017 at GDC (remember events?) and posted yesterday: "Kole Hicks & Chris Hunt share the details behind crafting the music and sound for the gritty, unforgiving, and indifferent world of Kenshi."
Obsequious Approbation
Augur
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Until yesterday. When
I gave him a Masterwork Eagle's Cross. >.<
I realized then that a full row of people like him would trivialize the game. So... erm... you've been warned.
When you have a full row of people with masterwork eagle's crosses, there is already nothing left to trivialize.
Well, other than friendly fire - that is truly the end boss.
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The real enemy in Kenshi has always been the horrendous performance.
Gregz
Arcane
Performance is fine if you aren't using a potatobox. Using the right graphics mods can help a lot too.
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"performance is fine you remove half the assets bro"
Gregz
Arcane
Just the grass, or if you have a really shitty PC, the building polygon count.
gogis
Scholar
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And? You play for the graphics, or? I guess games like Minecraft out of the picture then?
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I like Kenshi. I posted about it in this thread. But it manages to not look good AND run badly which is just shit.
I still enjoy Kenshi.
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