KickStarter Kickstarter Watch.

[WhiskeyWolf]

Good news, was afraid for a moment they wouldn't make it.

 

[Infinitron]

Procedural sandbox co-op thievery game? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1137332172/run-for-money

OUYA 2, because a Rubik's Cube isn't small enough http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/872297630/gamestick-the-most-portable-tv-games-console-ever

 

[Kz3r0]

Procedural sandbox co-op thievery game? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1137332172/run-for-money

I am not convinced, unless someone shows interest for this I will ignore it.

OUYA 2, because a Rubik's Cube isn't small enough http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/872297630/gamestick-the-most-portable-tv-games-console-ever

More casual gaming, sheesh, not a bad idea in itself but 100K is clearly bullshit, they are surely aiming much higher, let' see if they can beat OUYA.

 

[tuluse]

The gamestick description is one of the most pretentious things I've ever read.

You're making a shitty even more casual console, you are not and will never change the world.

 

[Blaine]

Blaine Elite Funded.

Yeah, I checked this morning and realized ED would meet its funding goal. I'm not entirely sure how or why these projects pull off their eleventh-hour, just-barely-squeaked-by shenanigans. I suppose far more people than I anticipated waited until the last day or two to pledge. I'm also inclined to believe that some developers set aside monies of their own to cover negligible shortfalls in the final days of crowdfunding.

Whatever the case, I'm glad all those poor people and dole-scroungers finally coughed up half a day's wages to buy in for the minimum amount of $35. It's good to be white, male, single, and earning $100,000k+ per year.

 

[Kz3r0]

Yeah, I checked this morning and realized ED would meet its funding goal. I'm not entirely sure how or why these projects pull off their eleventh-hour, just-barely-squeaked-by shenanigans. I suppose far more people than I anticipated waited until the last day or two to pledge. I'm also inclined to believe that some developers set aside monies of their own to cover negligible shortfalls in the final days of crowdfunding.

Whatever the case, I'm glad all those poor people and dole-scroungers finally coughed up half a day's wages to buy in for the minimum amount of $35. It's good to be white, male, single, and earning $100,000k+ per year.

While is true that some projects benefited by occult donors there is a very simple explanation for the fact that almost all the projects have spikes at the beginning and the end.


In other news:

Ever wanted to help design and create a new science fiction wargame universe with Rick Priestley? Well now you can.

Beyond the Gates of Antares is a brand new science fiction wargame universe from Rick Priestley - the creator of the Warhammer 40,000 game universe - and YOU!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2037958218/beyond-the-gates-of-antares/?ref=kicktraq

 

[Blaine]

While is true that some projects benefited by occult donors there is a very simple explanation for the fact that almost all the projects have spikes at the beginning and the end.

And what would that be?

 

[Kz3r0]

While is true that some projects benefited by occult donors there is a very simple explanation for the fact that almost all the projects have spikes at the beginning and the end.

And what would that be?

Different demographies, the early backers are enthusiasts that throw money to whatever seems cool to them, the belate backers are the 'conservative investors' that like to bet on projects already funded or that got a lot of hype, among them some 'good Samaritan' too that likes to play seventh cavalry.

 

[Blaine]

I think you're grossly underestimating the number of people who'll wait until the last minute so that:

• They can afford to pledge at all (kids/teens/etc. might need time to obtain even $25).
• They can save up more money to pledge the highest tier they're willing to pay for.
• They can defer their payment as long as possible, for any number of reasons.
• They can wait to see if there'll be any new pledge tiers or limited-time add-ons.

I agree that enthusiasts will pledge early and that "conservative investors" will wait until the project shows signs of being successfully funded, but in my opinion there are many more factors to consider.

 

[kaizoku]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/subterraneangames/war-for-the-overworld?ref=users

18 hours to go and they are funded


damn it... been so busy these days I didn't even have time to try the demo

 

[Kz3r0]

I think you're grossly underestimating the number of people who'll wait until the last minute ...

Those people are usually fans of a project, it's pretty obvious by now that the huge spikes are from people that in many cases never heard beforehand of that project, the millionaire projects are a testament to that, how many backers of Wasteland 2 ever heard of Wasteland 1 or even less, played it?
Most of them didn't even played the first two Fallout, in fact the only fallout they knew was Fallout 3.

 

[Blaine]

Am I really such a rare specimen, to have played Wasteland years before Fallout was even announced?

I wonder how many people played "real" computer games starting in the 1980s and who still play them on regular basis?

 

[tuluse]

I think Kz3r0's numbers are off. Wasteland 2 had 60,000 backers. Fallout sold hundreds of thousands of copies.

I don't see why the majority of backers would be Fallout 3 fans, since the game is basically a reaction to Fallout 3 and why people would want something different. One has to have known incline to desire it.

That said I never played Wasteland . I did watch an excellent LP of it if that makes up for anything.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

The gamestick description is one of the most pretentious things I've ever read.

You're making a shitty even more casual console, you are not and will never change the world.

"It's packed with power and memory to run the very richest games available today."

 

[Spectacle]

I think you're grossly underestimating the number of people who'll wait until the last minute so that:

• They can afford to pledge at all (kids/teens/etc. might need time to obtain even $25).
• They can save up more money to pledge the highest tier they're willing to pay for.
• They can defer their payment as long as possible, for any number of reasons.
• They can wait to see if there'll be any new pledge tiers or limited-time add-ons.

I agree that enthusiasts will pledge early and that "conservative investors" will wait until the project shows signs of being successfully funded, but in my opinion there are many more factors to consider.

Main reason is probably:

• People are lazy, and will put off doing anything for as long as possible even when the effort involved is minimal.

Wanting to defer payment shouldn't be an issue, since kickstarter doesn't charge your card until the project is done, you don't need money in hand to pledge.

 

[Jarpie]

I think you're grossly underestimating the number of people who'll wait until the last minute so that:

• They can afford to pledge at all (kids/teens/etc. might need time to obtain even $25).
• They can save up more money to pledge the highest tier they're willing to pay for.
• They can defer their payment as long as possible, for any number of reasons.
• They can wait to see if there'll be any new pledge tiers or limited-time add-ons.

I agree that enthusiasts will pledge early and that "conservative investors" will wait until the project shows signs of being successfully funded, but in my opinion there are many more factors to consider.

Main reason is probably:

• People are lazy, and will put off doing anything for as long as possible even when the effort involved is minimal.

Wanting to defer payment shouldn't be an issue, since kickstarter doesn't charge your card until the project is done, you don't need money in hand to pledge.

You'd be surprised how many people doesn't know that Kickstarter doesn't take money when you pledge and thinks that the minute you pledge, they charge your credit cards.

 

[Blaine]

I did, because I keep forgetting that it doesn't.

 

[CappenVarra]

More PnP news... http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/994700393/deluxe-tunnels-and-trolls

Deluxe Tunnels & Trolls, ~45% funded already (first day):

The original team that put together T&T has reunited: Ken St Andre, Liz Danforth, and Bear Peters are working together with Rick Loomis of Flying Buffalo and graphic genius Steve Crompton. Our dream is to create the best version of Tunnels & Trolls yet seen.

$14 for the basic PDF version, $28 softcover, $60 hardcover; a bunch of intermediate and well, deluxe tiers available as well. Looks good.

 

[Alex]

Hahaha, he still calls D&D "That other game"

By the way, on the topic of old school gaming, I asked the guys from Gates of Antares if their new game would be anything like the original Rogue Trader, and I got this answer:

Hi Alex - pleased to hear you mention the old Rogue Trader with such evident fondness. Yes it was a bit of a melange of content and styles, though it was an honest one that did reflect the games we were playing at the time. As the game developed it lost much of its openess, and eventually all contact with the role-playing, umpire driven side of affairs.
With the Antares prohect I'm aiming to recapture some of the things I liked about RT - including that openess that made it possible for players to incorporate their own ideas and build their own models (famously out of deoderant bottles in my case!). I wasn't aiming for anything quite so obvious as Space Elves, Dwarfs etc - though the old archetypes do tend to surface in other guises I guess! Also GW have that market cornered

So, we probably won't see really wacky elements like the squat in this game, but their claim the game is going to be "open" still makes me very hopeful.

 

[Kosmonaut]

Pledging for the Tunnels & Trolls softcover tier. Just as a token of appreciation because the people involved and the nostalgia factor :entitled:

Maybe I will upgrade to the hardcover, depending on the available funds.

 

[Blaine]

Let's see, how much did I spend on computer game Kickstarters last year?

• Wasteland 2—$1,000
• Star Citizen—$580
• Double Fine Adventure—$250
• Project Eternity—$250
• Elite: Dangerous—$170
• Limit Theory—$100
• Shadowrun Returns—$100
• Barkley 2—$100
• Leisure Suit Larry reboot—$100
• Space Venture (SQ reboot)—$100
• Hero U—$100
• Grim Dawn—$100
• Maia—$80
• Sui Generis—$60
• Xenonauts—$50
• Miscellaneous—approx. $150

Spoiler

Project GODDAMNIT by Peter Molyjew—$0 and I hope he chokes to death on his own vomit

Furcadia: The Second Dreaming—$Yiff

Grimoire—tree fiddy

So about $3,300, give or take. Pretty much what I thought before bothering to add it all up.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

1. Where'd you get your money?

2. Give me some money.

And... no patron status I see.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Let's see, how much did I spend on computer game Kickstarters last year?

• Leisure Suit Larry reboot—$100

There was a VGA version of this ages ago. Reboot of a reboot was how someone described it.

I want people to experience it, as it was a lot of fun ( I played it when I was about ten on an Amiga), but I'm uncomfortable with it funding it on Kickstarter unless he was intending to create another sequel if the remake was a success.

 

[Blaine]

And... no patron status I see.

A bit off-topic, but I bet a $100 donation to the Codex that Elite: Dangerous would be funded, along with an additional undisclosed amount I'd been planning to donate anyway. I won the bet.

As for the undisclosed amount I'd planned to donate in addition to the bet, I'm holding off for now because the General Discussion shenanigans vexed me (the link to RPG Watch was hilarious, but that's beside the point). It was an in-your-face reminder that this site is run by cronies who might do anything at any time on a whim. That's fine in and of itself, but DU essentially rearranged the forum because the staff doesn't like what some people have to say, and apparently they can't bother to follow their own rules—"shitposters" are supposed to be dealt with individually... such as by banning them from the subforum, rather than throwing a tantrum and shitting on everyone else at the same time.

If I'd lost the bet I would have donated $100 regardless, but I won, so that's that. I may yet become a patron, but now I'll be waiting a while longer until I feel comfortable doing so.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

I'm stuck here. I had to donate

Not many places where I feel comfortable, on the web or IRL, and this place lets me be who I want to be without filters.