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Just read Dan's article in latest Level magazine, where he decided to wake up and choose death :D
He basically goes through a list of most acclaimed videogames in history (Zeldas, Soulslikes, GTAs, Uncharteds..) and lists his reasons for why they suck.

Even when I disagree with him, I laughed out loud reading it.
 

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Just read Dan's article in latest Level magazine, where he decided to wake up and choose death :D
He basically goes through a list of most acclaimed videogames in history (Zeldas, Soulslikes, GTAs, Uncharteds..) and lists his reasons for why they suck.

Even when I disagree with him, I laughed out loud reading it.
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ferratilis

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Is this the new target audience for KCD2? If it is, I'm gonna be pissed. Keep Swen away from Warhorse!

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Just read Dan's article in latest Level magazine, where he decided to wake up and choose death :D
He basically goes through a list of most acclaimed videogames in history (Zeldas, Soulslikes, GTAs, Uncharteds..) and lists his reasons for why they suck.

Even when I disagree with him, I laughed out loud reading it.
Yea I've read it, it's funny when he's dumping on stupid shit like Zeldas, GTAs and Uncharted but Dark Souls? Thief? Half-Life? The nu God of War is debatable but reducing it to "repetitive arenas, button mashing, looking for blue keys to blue doors" is like saying KCD is a empty forest walking simulator. Or that Fallout 2 is about shuffling your mouse around and clicking on things.
 

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It's funny when people talk shit about games I don't approve of, but when you talk shit about games I like??? That's when you've gone too far and you and me are fucking FINISHED buddy... first and last warning... I better not catch any of you pieces of shit saying anything bad about HORSE CLUB ADVENTURES...
 
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Just read Dan's article in latest Level magazine, where he decided to wake up and choose death :D
He basically goes through a list of most acclaimed videogames in history (Zeldas, Soulslikes, GTAs, Uncharteds..) and lists his reasons for why they suck.

Even when I disagree with him, I laughed out loud reading it.
Yea I've read it, it's funny when he's dumping on stupid shit like Zeldas, GTAs and Uncharted but Dark Souls? Thief? Half-Life? The nu God of War is debatable but reducing it to "repetitive arenas, button mashing, looking for blue keys to blue doors" is like saying KCD is a empty forest walking simulator. Or that Fallout 2 is about shuffling your mouse around and clicking on things.

Clearly meant to get a bit of a reaction, the article. What was the Czech Take on Thief though of all things holy? Lemme guess: not enough cutscenes. Looking Glass died for all of your future sins, Dan.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTnd6sx2HTc
 

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Dark Souls? Thief? Half-Life? The nu God of War
His point is mostly that these games are overrated.

Which, eventhough I enjoyed them, don't really disagree with.

But obviously it is all about subjective value judgement. He has his own biases and doesn't hide it.
 

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Thief? Half-Life?
Oh no, he didn't...

Anyway, was anyone actually surprised in the slightest?
Vavra is a cutscene and story fag.
Wouldn't be a true gayming experience according to him if you don't sit through fucking hours worth of cutscenes and dialogue...
 

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Dark Souls? Thief? Half-Life? The nu God of War
His point is mostly that these games are overrated.

Which, eventhough I enjoyed them, don't really disagree with.

But obviously it is all about subjective value judgement. He has his own biases and doesn't hide it.

The point is retarded because those games are NOT in fact overrated. They are indeed rated correctly.

I mean all of the ones mentioned except God of War, which i have not played and just seems like mainstream slop to me.
 

Lyric Suite

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Thief? Half-Life?
Oh no, he didn't...

Anyway, was anyone actually surprised in the slightest?
Vavra is a cutscene and story fag.
Wouldn't be a true gayming experience according to him if you don't sit through fucking hours worth of cutscenes and dialogue...

This is the kind of conversation that drove Vavra out of the Codex. He has a stubborn and very narrow conception of what a game ought to be and nothing anybody says has ever been able to convice him otherwise. The only thing you can do with him is take his approach at face value and judge it on its own term and leave the question about whether it is or isn't the ONLY way video games ought to be made aside. It's a waste of time he won't budge from that position. In a sense his unflinching belief in the superiority of his point of view is what makes him interesting, because whether one believes in his vision or not at least he has a vision and by God he'll go through with it or perish trying.
 

NecroLord

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Thief? Half-Life?
Oh no, he didn't...

Anyway, was anyone actually surprised in the slightest?
Vavra is a cutscene and story fag.
Wouldn't be a true gayming experience according to him if you don't sit through fucking hours worth of cutscenes and dialogue...

This is the kind of conversation that drove Vavra out of the Codex. He has a stubborn and very narrow conception of what a game ought to be and nothing anybody says has ever been able to convice him otherwise. The only thing you can do with him is take his approach at face value and judge it on its own term and leave the question about whether it is or isn't the ONLY way video games ought to be made aside. It's a waste of time he won't budge from that position. In a sense his unflinching belief in the superiority of his point of view is what makes him interesting, because whether one believes in his vision or not at least he has a vision and by God he'll go through with it or perish trying.
Of course.
Nothing wrong with him being unyielding and relatively uncompromising.
Also I heard he is really well off, having a wife and kids AND money.
 

Lyric Suite

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Well, my point is that it's not really important that he thinks games should be "cinematic" as long as his cinematic games are actually good for what they are.

I personally don't agree with him at all in this respect but as a consumer and player all i care is the quality of the game and if his singular obsession produces good games of the specific type he favors i'll take it.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.

In a sense his unflinching belief in the superiority of his point of view is what makes him interesting
It also makes games like Mafia 1 or KCD 1 even possible because they were so unique and novel for their time nobody believed they can succeed or even be done and Vavra had to literally drag everybody kicking and screaming through the entire process and over the finish line. As he never fails to remind us :D
 

GentlemanCthulhu

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I'm gonna be honest with you, while KCD was pretty good where it mattered, it was also often very boring and disappointed me on the lack reactivity more than a few times.

From the trailers, I didn't see the sequel doing anything different either. Seems to be playing it completely safe which is kinda disappointing.
 

jaekl

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I plan to be one of the top experts on trolling the criminal justice system in this game
 

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Just read Dan's article in latest Level magazine, where he decided to wake up and choose death :D
He basically goes through a list of most acclaimed videogames in history (Zeldas, Soulslikes, GTAs, Uncharteds..) and lists his reasons for why they suck.

Even when I disagree with him, I laughed out loud reading it.
The guy who was praising Cyberpunk 2077? Oh no, I really care about his opinions on games.
 

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