Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[NecroLord]

Many codexers will love this quest.

Aid the antisemites.

 

[Swen]

It really is dissapointing, Vavra shouldn't have joined the dark side...






Embracer must've showered him with money. And I'm sure he wanted to join the club of "respectable" gaming devs, probably jealous of seeing BG3 getting all those awards.

 

[VerSacrum]

I don't know if she's a girlboss, but I know I hate her. So far I've had three interactions with her. Game paints her as this supah awesum bitch who don't take no shit from no man.

I'll respond in more detail later, but Katherine is very much the Witcher 3 Yennefer, which in turn is the Film Noir "femme fatale" trope (at least the Yen in the game). Whether the main guy will tame her or she is beyond help is driving us into exploring her.

If the idea was that Geralt/Henri would tame her, then why do they never, ever, ever behave craftily and confidently like Petruchio handling (breaking like a horse) Katherine in The Taming of the Shrew?
But no, instead they’re weak and compete to be accepted by their bitch queen.

Yennefer is honestly often obnoxious as fuck in Witcher 3, one of the reasons I usually go for Triss. Some of it is decent banter and that's fine, but occasionally it's just her being a nasty bitch. I get that she was hurt by Triss bedding Geralt but she needs to just get over it already.

IMO it should be canon that Geralt ends the magic spell binding them, because she is so toxic throughout the whole game. Dude would just nope out of that shit and go back to hitting the redhead. Like how is this even a debate.

The game is full of snarky bitches in general, the Stacy at the wedding is another example. It's not attractive and was clearly written by women who think sarcasm is the highest form of comedy, but Katherine certainly holds an appeal for fans of buxom types.
I do like the exiled midwife a lot and some others like the noble widow at the feast because they fit into the time - both in dress and manners.
Have yet to make it to Kuttenberg and am somewhat afraid of doing so, since all the questionable content seems to find its highest concentration in that chapter. It's why I restarted to fuck around with different options before/at the wedding.

 

[Lacrymas]

Embracer must've showered him with money. And I'm sure he wanted to join the club of "respectable" gaming devs, probably jealous of seeing BG3 getting all those awards.

You made a game in which a clearly homosexual male vampire can have sex with the bisexual male druid in bear form.

 

[Beowulf]

Yes, but it is well established that vamipres, indeed, suck.
Unless you're point was more about the druid. That might be so, but I'm not well versed in the DnD degeneracies, as it is a subpar RPG system.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Embracer must've showered him with money. And I'm sure he wanted to join the club of "respectable" gaming devs, probably jealous of seeing BG3 getting all those awards.

You made a game in which a clearly homosexual male vampire can have sex with the bisexual male druid in bear form.

Meh, that was D&D 5

 

[Mark Richard]

Regarding "The Human Cuman"
From beginning to end, the Cumans in Trosky don't make sense to me. I receive the quest to remove them after a tavern fight that happened over their presence. The game's "movie script" rudely tries to hammer the message that "they are Cumans, but they are alright". Three peple whom I ask about the Cumans all begin with "they are not that bad". Ok, I get it. When I discover their camp, violence is always an option, but there is a drinking & persuasion minigame for those who feel more curious about the Human Cuman side of things, or who didn't play the first game and don't think it's a big deal. I'm cool with that, let there be RP options. But did the option have to be implemented so unconvincingly?

Yep. There's a clear writer's preference here which is yet another indicator of an internal shift in attitude. They've worked overtime to justify changing the presentation into something which just so happens to conform to modern day western sensibilities. I'm perfectly fine with IP Man having an anti-Japanese sentiment, or American soldiers not getting buddy-buddy with a group of Iraq enemies in a 2000s military shooter game. Heck, I can even enjoy my own countrymen being the faceless goons in a foreign product because I understand its a huge part of a national identity.

It's also often required to make entertainment work. In spite of Edge's infamous 'talk to the monsters' Doom review, most people don't want to find common ground, and going against that is more akin to education than entertainment. When the aliens in XCOM Chimera Squad live alongside humans and take up authoritative positions in government 5 years after slaughtering a large segment of the human population, and it's excused with 'oh but they were under mind control when they killed all those people', that's awkward. When you switch perspectives in The Last of Us Part 2 and get to play a bunch of strangers who you're being asked to identify with after they just killed the beloved main character, that's awkward. These are positions the audience shouldn't be put in.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The game is full of snarky bitches in general, the Stacy at the wedding is another example. It's not attractive and was clearly written by women who think sarcasm is the highest form of comedy, but Katherine certainly holds an appeal for fans of buxom types.

I have to confess that I have been both Vanyek and Henry in such scenes IRL (multiple times), and for me Myshka is a completely normal girl. In this moment she wants to dance. Not fuck, not devote her life to a betrothed. Just dance.

 

[AwesomeButton]

When you switch perspectives in The Last of Us Part 2 and get to play a bunch of strangers who you're being asked to identify with after they just killed the beloved main character, that's awkward. These are positions the audience shouldn't be put in.

Funny, at an earlier stage I thought about comparing fraternizing with the people who burnt down Henry's village and killed mostly everyone he had ever known to Joel making friends with a mushroom zombie.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

I went into it thinking "fuck cumans" but the inkeeper asked to not start a fight, and since Henry still felt bad about the previous brawl, that became my primary objective. All the villagers are - fuck the cumans, while I'm trying to deescalate. I fail all the checks and the villagers turn on me, so I defend myself, which aligns me with cumans. And when we defeat the villagers, they're all pissed and tell me to drive the cumans away to prove I wasn't a traitor. This created an interesting dynamic of circumstances and skill checks driving your actions instead of just binary decisions.

This might be reasonable c&c in purely mechanical terms, but narratively, it sounds like horseshit written by someone whose notion of war is informed primarily by pop culture. Henry saw his whole world burn at the hands of the Cumans, it should take more than a bar brawl and some mean words to make good on that. Hell, there might not be anything that can make good on that, up to and including Cumans saving Henry's life, because his grief is communal as much as it is personal.

That's ignoring the premise of the quest, which is that a mercenary force hired with the promise of loot and plunder in foreign lands is surprised when the people they came to rob are not nice to them. What's next, Vikings complaining about the French peasantry's lack of hospitality?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Matthew 6, 2:

Therefore, whenever you give alms, do not trumpet your generosity, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets in order to win the praise of others. Amen, I say to you, they have already received their reward.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I went into it thinking "fuck cumans" but the inkeeper asked to not start a fight, and since Henry still felt bad about the previous brawl, that became my primary objective. All the villagers are - fuck the cumans, while I'm trying to deescalate. I fail all the checks and the villagers turn on me, so I defend myself, which aligns me with cumans. And when we defeat the villagers, they're all pissed and tell me to drive the cumans away to prove I wasn't a traitor. This created an interesting dynamic of circumstances and skill checks driving your actions instead of just binary decisions.

This might be reasonable c&c in purely mechanical terms, but narratively, it sounds like horseshit written by someone whose notion of war is informed primarily by pop culture. Henry saw his whole world burn at the hands of the Cumans, it should take more than a bar brawl and some mean words to make good on that. Hell, there might not be anything that can make good on that, up to and including Cumans saving Henry's life, because his grief is communal as much as it is personal.

That's ignoring the premise of the quest, which is that a mercenary force hired with the promise of loot and plunder in foreign lands is surprised when the people they came to rob are not nice to them. What's next, Vikings complaining about the French peasantry's lack of hospitality?

Exactly, Henry is defined by the attack on Skalitz. I understand the ever itching urge for some idiot to "subvert" and "redefine" him, or make him a "more complex character". I can see him eventually evolving to cope with this trauma, but not like this. Otherwise, what - he reaches a higher understanding of the perpetrators of the murder of his foster parents, the Cumans, but is on a philosophically motivated and targeted vendetta against the instigators? This doesn't add up.

 

[Swen]

Embracer must've showered him with money. And I'm sure he wanted to join the club of "respectable" gaming devs, probably jealous of seeing BG3 getting all those awards.

You made a game in which a clearly homosexual male vampire can have sex with the bisexual male druid in bear form.

You can kill anyone you don't like and BG3 let's you make whoever you want, not like KCD with established characters.

 

[BrainMuncher]

Wait, I thought underneath all the niggers, faggot fucking with everyone, jew faggot fucking, hermaphrodite fucking, jew faggot stepbrother fucking, getting cucked by your only female love interest with a nigger, and killing evil christians because they are antisemites, the gameplay in this is supposed to actually be good? But I've seen this video and the "gameplay" is carrying a drunk guy for 10 minutes and listening to funny reddit quips, or talking for 10 minutes straight to some dumb bitch in a single dialogue?


How do normies manage to meme themselves into pretending they actually enjoy it?

Most gamers today are console gaming normies who enjoy watching TV, so when a game has a biilion hours of cutscenes they are happy because they like watching low quality TV shows. It gives them a chance to put down the controller and consume some heavily processed food product.

 

[Nas92]

The friendly Cumans is one controversy I don't really get. I've looked at those scenes, those Cumans are deserters and anyway you're not forced to talk to them, you can just kill them, can't you? Or do you all think this is supposed to be like a #NotAllCumans type cringe moment?

 

[Lacrymas]

You can kill anyone you don't like and BG3 let's you make whoever you want, not like KCD with established characters.

Aren't these consequences to the gayness in KCD2, though? Isn't this a gritty and realistic slice of medieval life? I find it hard to believe the gays live happily ever after without some sort of crippling compromise.

 

[Elttharion]

The friendly Cumans is one controversy I don't really get. I've looked at those scenes, those Cumans are deserters and anyway you're not forced to talk to them, you can just kill them, can't you? Or do you all think this is supposed to be like a #NotAllCumans type cringe moment?

Journos criticized the Cumans for being faceless villains in the first game and asked for content humanizing them in the sequel, its not really terrible on its own but in context its just another thing Vavra bend the knee on.

 

[Ol' Willy]

kikenigger faggotry aside, what exactly justifies this game's thread being placed in RPG subforum? From what I reckon:

- game's structure is generic 3D open-world action-adventure, just like dozens of similar titles
- very linear, with little player agency
- combat is challenging only during early game, later on devolving into typical awesome button presses
- minigames
- tons of cutscenes

So, basically, a GTA with swords and horses. This is what passes for RPG nowadays?

 

[Dark Souls II]

kikenigger faggotry aside, what exactly justifies this game's thread being placed in RPG subforum? From what I reckon:

- game's structure is generic 3D open-world action-adventure, just like dozens of similar titles
- very linear, with little player agency
- combat is challenging only during early game, later on devolving into typical awesome button presses
- minigames
- tons of cutscenes

So, basically, a GTA with swords and horses. This is what passes for RPG nowadays?

The game has:

- swords
- cute elf girls (not really, but might I interest you in a cute 15 years old Czech twink? same thing really when you think about it)
- orcs (one, from Mali)
- evil wizards doing blood magic to create eldritch abominations (and if you don't help him that's antisemitic)

All the staples of the genre are here. I think the only thing missing are the dwarves, but they might actually be there. I don't know, I haven't actually played the game because I'm not a niggerloving faggot cuck.

 

[cvv]

Has anyone been crying about the For Whom The Bell Tolls quest? That it's teh hard? I've definitely noticed a few whines on X, maybe here too.

Quest is grate and easy as wank. Who the fuck had any problems with it?

 

[NecroLord]

kikenigger faggotry aside, what exactly justifies this game's thread being placed in RPG subforum? From what I reckon:

- game's structure is generic 3D open-world action-adventure, just like dozens of similar titles
- very linear, with little player agency
- combat is challenging only during early game, later on devolving into typical awesome button presses
- minigames
- tons of cutscenes

So, basically, a GTA with swords and horses. This is what passes for RPG nowadays?

The big titty bitch Katherine betrays Henry for Musa bbc.
There's also the quest where apparently you have to help some jew miller build a golem and also one where you have to aid some jews by protecting them from a pogrom and assist them by killing christians.
Can't make this shit up.

 

[VerSacrum]

Has anyone been crying about the For Whom The Bell Tolls quest? That it's teh hard? I've definitely noticed a few whines on X, maybe here too.

Quest is grate and easy as wank. Who the fuck had any problems with it?

I liked it. My Henry is basically Czech Robin Hood, so sneaking through the castle of the crooked Lord in conspiration against the true King really fit that. I can see why people may have problems if they rush the wedding and do it with shitty stats tho.

 

[cvv]

Has anyone been crying about the For Whom The Bell Tolls quest? That it's teh hard? I've definitely noticed a few whines on X, maybe here too.

Quest is grate and easy as wank. Who the fuck had any problems with it?

I liked it. My Henry is basically Czech Robin Hood, so sneaking through the castle of the crooked Lord in conspiration against the true King really fit that. I can see why people may have problems if they rush the wedding and do it with shitty stats tho.

I wasn't sneaking, my stats were high enough I was able to help Ulrich with his ulcers and he let me in.

So is it difficult to sneak through? I met like two guards on the way, dunno.

 

[motherfucker]

IMO it should be canon that Geralt ends the magic spell binding them, because she is so toxic throughout the whole game. Dude would just nope out of that shit and go back to hitting the redhead. Like how is this even a debate.

What really infuriated me is when it was revealed that Yen knew the whole time where Geralt was, ever since he came back in TW1. She just didn't feel like coming to get him. And yet she gets mad at him fucking Triss even though with the memory loss he had no idea who Yen was until TW2, and sad if he rejects her in TW3. The nerve of this broad.

To be fair, Triss isn't much better, but at least she's nice to Geralt as she manipulates him.

 

[Elttharion]

Shani is the only acceptable romance option in the witcher 3