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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

whocares

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the game keeps telling me to stop holding down W during races(not following path), if I let it go horse stops. someone enlighten me
It's the dumbest tip ever. In some stroke of harebrained genius they intend you to hold W during the first two horse speeds, but then not hold it when it's galloping (fastest speed). I don't know who you have to be to find this holding and letting go in any way more convenient than just holding W all the time, especially since as you've said - the moment the speed drops, horse stops if you're not pressing W. Just dismiss the tip - it's stupid.
 

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Ok, I'm with you on this. But why now, why not in 2018 or even earlier? Do you think it's his age? He believes himself wiser for adopting views he has been so outspoken against in the past?
The Czech billionaire who funded the first game might have been a quality filter on Vavra's worst tendencies. Not just for keeping tokens out of the game, but making sure the dialogue was authentic-sounding enough, the reddit humor kept to a minimum. There is no ESG payout in including a fucking "arrow to the knee" reference when everyone was cringing at this sort of thing when the Wasteland 2 demo did it 2013 (Brother None showed up and promised to get rid of all those).
Never underestimate how personally writers take professional criticism. Every writer I have worked with would be absolutely gutted by the slightest suggestion their work was insufficiently supportive of LGBT or whatever. Including and especially the conservative ones.

Unless they are already 100% ideologically fortified against these complaints, every writer caves eventually.
 
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shimadamada

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Their justification is laughably naive, the only motivation to have them implemented as a friendly bunch is the agenda, and it's breaking the 4th wall for me.
What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
 

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Musa is my hero so based.

"When the Moroccan explorer Ibn Battuta visited the Mali Empire in the 1350s, he was surprised to see sultan Sulayman give "a slave girl as part of his reception-gift" to a group of warriors from a cannibal region who had come to visit his court. "They slaughtered her and ate her and smeared their faces and hands with her blood and came in gratitude to the sultan." He was told that the sultan did so every time he received the cannibal guests. Though a Muslim like Ibn Battuta himself, he considered catering to his visitors' preferences more important than whatever reservations he may have had about the practice. Other Muslim authors writing around that time also reported that cannibalism was practised in some West African regions and that slave girls were sometimes slaughtered for food since "their flesh is the best thing we have to eat."
 

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What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
It's touted as a historically accurate game during a time period where outsiders were extremely distrusted, especially when they torched settlements, slaughtered innocents and sexually assaulted them. All things we saw play out in the first game at that. Henry is written for conform to modern day progressive ideals which, realistically, would get him and everyone around him killed or enslaved.
 

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Ok, I'm with you on this. But why now, why not in 2018 or even earlier? Do you think it's his age? He believes himself wiser for adopting views he has been so outspoken against in the past?
The Czech billionaire who funded the first game might have been a quality filter on Vavra's worst tendencies. Not just for keeping tokens out of the game, but making sure the dialogue was authentic-sounding enough, the reddit humor kept to a minimum. There is no ESG payout in including a fucking "arrow to the knee" reference when everyone was cringing at this sort of thing when the Wasteland 2 demo did it 2013 (Brother None showed up and promised to get rid of all those).
The billionaire in question funded the aspen institute in Czechia and donated to progressive parties
 

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Their justification is laughably naive, the only motivation to have them implemented as a friendly bunch is the agenda, and it's breaking the 4th wall for me.
What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
Yeah, but we are talking about cuman mercenaries here, i.e. glorified rapists and murderers, not your average cuman farmer forcefully sent to war by a baron.
 

Gerrard

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https://www.eurogamer.net/kingdom-c...roubled-publisher-embracer-celebrates-success

Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 nears 2m sold, as troubled publisher Embracer celebrates success​

"A strong foundation for future value creation."

Embattled publisher Embracer finally has something to celebrate - the launch of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2, which it says is "fast approaching" 2m sales.

As part of the company's latest financial results, Embracer heaped praise on the medieval role-playing game for launching to over 1m copies sold in 24 hours, and a peak Steam concurrent count of 250,000 players.

"It is our strong belief that the game will continue to generate substantial revenues over the coming years, highlighting the exceptional quality, immersion and appeal of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2," Embracer noted.

It's been an exceptionally rocky few years for Embracer, which has seen its empire of studios shrink considerably after a loss of funding and a string of flops - including, notably, the failure of the Saints Row reboot.

"The success of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 is a reminder of our core - to bring great products to the market," Embracer co-founder Lars Wingefors wrote.

"High-quality teams need to have the resources and the time to execute their visions. When you have the right teams, this trust benefits everyone, including gamers, employees and shareholders. I am convinced that we will remain among the industry leaders in our core business verticals in the future."

"This gorgeous medieval RPG continues to be just as divisive, prickly and abrasive as its predecessor," we wrote in Eurogamer's Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 review.
A 3 platform AAA game in 2025 "nears 2 million copies sold", a success.
LMAO
Yeah, I guess if you define success as "not a complete flop" then it's a success.

By the way, it has 35K reviews on Steam (less than half of which are in English), but if it's only "nearing" 2 million total, that means it has an insanely inflated number of reviews (or 90% of all sales are on PC).
 
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Justicar

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Barbarian

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So will kangdom cum deliverass be GOTY this year? Amazing what you can get by adding black people and gay butssex to a game.

Maybe Vávra wasn't so wrong to toe the wokeline. That Bentley won't pay itself, ditto for the golden testicles paraphernalia.
 
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Their justification is laughably naive, the only motivation to have them implemented as a friendly bunch is the agenda, and it's breaking the 4th wall for me.
What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
54 pages of posts and this is the most reddit post of them all. Congratulations.
 

NecroLord

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Their justification is laughably naive, the only motivation to have them implemented as a friendly bunch is the agenda, and it's breaking the 4th wall for me.
What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
Nah, I think you are just a 80 IQ retard.
Muh "ethnic groups"...
No, not everyone enjoys having their games filled with "historically accurate" niggers, sassy women and other degenerates.
With you people it is always about blackwashing history, especially white christian history and also culture.
Please worship sub-saharans if you must, but don't push that shit in our games.
 

Barbarian

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So will kangdom cum deliverass be GOTY this year?
For normalfags? nuDoom will probably rank higher. For the codex? Since this game is ultrabased it is almost guaranteed goty for the usual suspects.

Weren't "critics" kind of harsh to the first game? Don't quite remember but there was so much controversy.

Now Vávra is fellating himself with all these 5/5s and 10/10s making promotional videos about his upcoming "critically acclaimed" vidya.
 

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Knightly courtship was (and is) an aspirational ideal, if you did it in normal human interaction you would come off as a dork. Look up "Don Quixote", it's kind of a famous book
Way to miss the point. The entire theme of Don Quixote is that moderns are fallen, cynical people and that even though Don Quixote is insane for wanting to live by the ideals of chivalry in the 1600s and gets beaten, swindled and mocked he is a better and nobler man. It's a tragic story about a hopeless romantic in a fallen age (early modernity), not "lul look at dis dork, he dumb amirite"
When did I say it's "lul at dis dork, he dumb amirite"? You seem to be responding to things nobody is saying. The point I am making is that reactions he gets will be the reactions anyone will ever get if he is larping in the real world.

As for what's "the entire theme", I won't comment on that, more than that there is not one but multiple themes, and what you claim to be a theme is really a question to be answered by interpreting the text. But you are free to have your take, even if it's one-sided and simplistic.
"Bbbb-but it's not realistic, goy!"
The game as a whole is not especially "realistic", though it can be educational. I've never said it is realistic, and I've compared it to Braveheart and Kingdom of Heaven, as an example of how far from realism it is. So you are fighting windmills too, if you think you are arguing with someone who will claim it's realistic.

The Czech billionaire who funded the first game might have been a quality filter on Vavra's worst tendencies. Not just for keeping tokens out of the game, but making sure the dialogue was authentic-sounding enough, the reddit humor kept to a minimum. There is no ESG payout in including a fucking "arrow to the knee" reference when everyone was cringing at this sort of thing when the Wasteland 2 demo did it 2013 (Brother None showed up and promised to get rid of all those).
Then why was there no wokeshit in Mafia 2 either?

What agenda? To show that ethnic groups are not amorphous, homogenous blobs? Yes, that's a good agenda. If you see an issue with this, it speaks more about how infantile and incurious your mind is than it does about the game.
The agenda is to preach sheepish tolerance at the population, including of violent invaders. Whatever. Henry has the option to kill the Cumans, including to initiate the combat from dialogue. The fact that they are even added in the way they are, speaks to how bad the writing is in this particular instance.

Alternate take: Henry kills off the Cumans and later has an option to confess about this to a priest, and the priest has a commentary on that. Henry gets dialogue options (aka player choice) to express how he feels about this - is it justified revenge or is it pointless murder. So instead of the Cumans being presented as generous fellows who ask Henry to leave the past, from the position of those who have already committed the wrongdoing, it's the player who decides on whether pursuing vengence was justified.

It's almost like having your country be invaded by another country, mass murders and war crimes are carried out, and then they the invaders ask you "let's be humans, and forget about it".
 

whocares

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The fact that they are even added in the way they are, speaks to how bad the writing is.
I don't think it's as bad as you portray it. In fact, it comes pretty close to greatness but then squanders it. The angle of meeting Human Cumans who were at Skalitz fits in perfectly with Henry becoming the "Cuman" and massacring Semine. It would work so well in a "Dune-into Dune Messiah" abyss-staring Nietzsche kind of narrative. But these fuckers have it all in there but then refuse to do anything with it at all. Instead of a pivotal moment, Semine is a minor footnote while Henry keeps feeling bad about killing Toth, and that's the story they're spinning. To quote the great philosopher JC Denton - what a shame.
 

NecroLord

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Alternate take: Henry kills off the Cumans and later has an option to confess about this to a priest, and the priest has a commentary on that. Henry gets dialogue options (aka player choice) to express how he feels about this - is it justified revenge or is it pointless murder. So instead of the Cumans being presented as generous fellows who ask Henry to leave the past, from the position of those who have already committed the wrongdoing, it's the player who decides on whether pursuing vengence was justified.

It's almost like having your country be invaded by another country, mass murders and war crimes are carried out, and then they the invaders ask you "let's be humans, and forget about it".
Those poor cuman refugees...
They just had socioeconomic issues.
 

Roguey

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Then why was there no wokeshit in Mafia 2 either?
Never played Mafia 2, but looking at the character list, he was considerate of the melting pot nature of the US: you have Italian- Irish- Chinese- Jewish- African- and Latin Americans.
 

lukaszek

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did the wedding, had high expectations of witcher wedding but instead ive gotten ultimate pushover henry experience.
Gaym is just not holding up when you are expecting to talk to people as writing is meh. Then there is this annoying sense of urgency as you dont know who to talk to as some actions progresses wedding, some do not.
losing hp while dancing was funny though. Some quests like sneaking to get booze had potential but were just presented badly. Also there was this oddity as I just wasnt sure if its peasant or nobleman wedding, presentation and small crowd was odd.

Then there are issues of gaym being easier than kcd1 and your progress being faster. At some point I stopped having fun.

Some of you were writing about stealth being skyrim tier and I agree. A number of times I was wanted in trosky village even though I am invisible. Which is easy to prove as I stopped to care and can sneak through main street in medium armor without anyone bothering me.
Stealth archer can keep firing arrows and enemies will be running around trying to find you. Granted im good with stealth now but I dont recall having such problems in kcd1. In fact I dont remember maxing my skills.
 

herpenis

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https://www.eurogamer.net/kingdom-c...roubled-publisher-embracer-celebrates-success

Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 nears 2m sold, as troubled publisher Embracer celebrates success​

"A strong foundation for future value creation."

Embattled publisher Embracer finally has something to celebrate - the launch of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2, which it says is "fast approaching" 2m sales.

As part of the company's latest financial results, Embracer heaped praise on the medieval role-playing game for launching to over 1m copies sold in 24 hours, and a peak Steam concurrent count of 250,000 players.

"It is our strong belief that the game will continue to generate substantial revenues over the coming years, highlighting the exceptional quality, immersion and appeal of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2," Embracer noted.

It's been an exceptionally rocky few years for Embracer, which has seen its empire of studios shrink considerably after a loss of funding and a string of flops - including, notably, the failure of the Saints Row reboot.

"The success of Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2 is a reminder of our core - to bring great products to the market," Embracer co-founder Lars Wingefors wrote.

"High-quality teams need to have the resources and the time to execute their visions. When you have the right teams, this trust benefits everyone, including gamers, employees and shareholders. I am convinced that we will remain among the industry leaders in our core business verticals in the future."

"This gorgeous medieval RPG continues to be just as divisive, prickly and abrasive as its predecessor," we wrote in Eurogamer's Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 review.
A 3 platform AAA game in 2025 "nears 2 million copies sold", a success.
LMAO
Yeah, I guess if you define success as "not a complete flop" then it's a success.

By the way, it has 35K reviews on Steam, but if it's only "nearing" 2 million total, that means it has an insanely inflated number of reviews (or 90% of all sales are on PC).
this is hardcore copium, by taking the review count and multiplying by anywhere between 30-40 you get an accurate rough estimate of sales, tho in my experience it tends to lean more to 40 than less

so by multiplying the verified steam sale reviews currently (26,321) by 40 you get 1,052,840 sales on steam alone
regardless of your feelings towards the game it is anything but a flop
 

herpenis

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There's 35K reviews, blind retard.

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yes, 35k of which 26k are steam purchases and 9k are key activations (which are not considered sales), retarded retard
try interpreting publically available data properly instead of clutching at the pearls wishing every game you don't like is a failure, like a dishonest dicksucker
 

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Google search sez the game cost $40 million, which is remarkably cheap for an AAA game. There was an old article written by Vavra himself kvetching about the unnecessarily bloated costs of AAA development.

Assuming doubled for marketing, if the game sold 2 million copies, $70 each, minus 30% store costs, that means $92 million, then the game has recouped its costs and made a profit already. Not too bad, esp. once you convert it into frogs or tracksuits or whatever Czechs use for money.
 

Gerrard

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I'm sure Embracer cares if the games were bought on Steam or a 3rd party site, keep coping retardo.
 

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