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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

whocares

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I had max around 23 crafting, and at that point I would get a t4 result with one "I'm fucking it up" comment from Henry. 2 and it was down to t3.
did you grab alchemy perks? something else must be governing it as I would overheat few times and always had t4 ever since acquiring the perk. And no other boosts
I actually have not. I went with the ones that gave more potions per brew. So there's a good chance you're right, they might be affecting crafting as well.
 

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This.

To be fair, Vavra isn't helping himself by tweeting explicitly anti-Christian shit. But he's much more a passionate developer than he is anti-Christian, no other game ever remotely compares to KCD1/2 in the authentic, honest portrayal of Christianity, even though I'd confidently guess there are NO church-going Christians in Warhorse.

Idk about portraying christianity, the lack of chapels and priests doing masses and sermons every sunday as a part of regular peasant routine is very jarring. Churches should be open and the mass should be performed daily in bigger cathedrals in cities. The game is actually very irreligious beside few "jesus be praised" token stuff in cutscenes. You have almost zero or very few characters in the plot following christian moral code, or insisting strongly on that.
Another thing that breaks immersion is lack of children, even if they were unkillable to avoid controversy they could be a good environmental props that help with believability, children running around, playing, instead you are constantly reminded you are playing a game by the all adult population. Vavra clearly steered away from controversy and followed the antinatalist view, while implementing jew friendly "non-controversial" topics for current evil world morality, like homosex, feminism, debauchery and negrolatry.
 

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This.

To be fair, Vavra isn't helping himself by tweeting explicitly anti-Christian shit. But he's much more a passionate developer than he is anti-Christian, no other game ever remotely compares to KCD1/2 in the authentic, honest portrayal of Christianity, even though I'd confidently guess there are NO church-going Christians in Warhorse.

the lack of chapels and priests doing masses and sermons every sunday as a part of regular peasant routine is very jarring.

Another thing that breaks immersion is lack of children, even if they were unkillable to avoid controversy they could be a good environmental props that help with believability
In KCD1 there were like 4 churches in the base game. They're great but apparently they took a long fucking time and a lot of people to build according to Vavra. There are many more in KCD2 and most of them are much more grand. Vavra said they just didn't have the time and resources to get them right. Yes it's sad and it'd be amazing if there were sermons and masses. I guess there have to be some drawbacks to building a game like that with only 250 people and 40 million dollars. Maybe the DLCs will let us visit at least some churches, not holding my breath tho.

As for children, not only it'd be jarring to have half the population killable and the other half unkillable but the way KCD is built they would need a place to sleep and eat and that means MANY more buildings and beds. I guess you could reduce the adult population by half and replace them with nonkillable, non-interactable, boring children. But the game would be too sparse then.
Plus children would have to have some sort of routine behaviour, albeit lighter than the adults, and the game is CPU heavy as it is.

I guess they made their value-cost analysis and decided children would be a big pile of painful trouble for a tiny benefit.
 

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The thing about Musa is that on top of him not having any business being in Bohemia, he's an unbelievably terrible character. Even if he was white as a ghost and called something lke Musatch of Prague, he would still be the worst character in the game hands down.
Even worse than the Voivode, Aranka and Marika? Because I finished that Miri Fajta quest recently and was sincerely hoping that they were the worst this game had to offer in terms of NPCs, I will adjust my expectations if Musa is really worse.
 

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Heh, you know how there are bugged clothes and weapon shops in Kuttenberg right? Basically doors are closed and without lockpicking you cant enter and if you enter or go through backyard npc's will try to chase you out, i found a way around that to force npc to open those doors. Those shops have open windows blocked with bars but those bars dont prevent projectiles so you can bait them by pelting rocks at and around those merchants and windows, they will come outside to check the sounds and you can enter normally through open doors.
 

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This.

To be fair, Vavra isn't helping himself by tweeting explicitly anti-Christian shit. But he's much more a passionate developer than he is anti-Christian, no other game ever remotely compares to KCD1/2 in the authentic, honest portrayal of Christianity, even though I'd confidently guess there are NO church-going Christians in Warhorse.

the lack of chapels and priests doing masses and sermons every sunday as a part of regular peasant routine is very jarring.

Another thing that breaks immersion is lack of children, even if they were unkillable to avoid controversy they could be a good environmental props that help with believability
In KCD1 there were like 4 churches in the base game. They're great but apparently they took a long fucking time and a lot of people to build according to Vavra.
He is just lying come on. Of the 4 churces in KCD1 2 were literally single rooms, one of them had a balcony. I can understand not modeling a cathedral or a city church, but town churches?
Yet they did have the time to model a useless non-existent synagogue
 

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Even worse than the Voivode, Aranka and Marika? Because I finished that Miri Fajta quest recently and was sincerely hoping that they were the worst this game had to offer in terms of NPCs, I will adjust my expectations if Musa is really worse.
The gypsies are terrible people who were meant to be hated. Musa was meant to be liked.
 

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This.

To be fair, Vavra isn't helping himself by tweeting explicitly anti-Christian shit. But he's much more a passionate developer than he is anti-Christian, no other game ever remotely compares to KCD1/2 in the authentic, honest portrayal of Christianity, even though I'd confidently guess there are NO church-going Christians in Warhorse.

Idk about portraying christianity, the lack of chapels and priests doing masses and sermons every sunday as a part of regular peasant routine is very jarring. Churches should be open and the mass should be performed daily in bigger cathedrals in cities. The game is actually very irreligious beside few "jesus be praised" token stuff in cutscenes. You have almost zero or very few characters in the plot following christian moral code, or insisting strongly on that.
Another thing that breaks immersion is lack of children, even if they were unkillable to avoid controversy they could be a good environmental props that help with believability, children running around, playing, instead you are constantly reminded you are playing a game by the all adult population. Vavra clearly steered away from controversy and followed the antinatalist view, while implementing jew friendly "non-controversial" topics for current evil world morality, like homosex, feminism, debauchery and negrolatry.
It's incredibly jarring and anyone excusing it is giving far, far too much benefit of the doubt to - vocally, publicly, unashamedly - an atheist of jewish descent. Like... come on. A game called KINGDOM COME: DELIVERANCE where not one single church exists? Not a single church service presented in gameplay, in a place called the holy roman empire? And it still managed to find time to model a totally ludicrous african muslim who lectures the player about how backward Europeans are, and Jews who complain about being unjustly persecuted by Christians? What Christians? Nobody in this game receives a baptism or communion, every major character commits mortal sins with aplomb, so I don't see any Christians in this depiction of Bohemia in the first place.

Lord knows I haven't been to mass in a couple decades, but even I can smell this. Come on. The game is very overtly anti-Christian. You can have fun with it while acknowledging this.
 

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cvv

Stop making excuses for the fat obnoxious lying jew, you look like a cuck.
Six years isn't enough time to model a church, in a game called kingdom come.
Then I guess the only explanation is they hate churches.

And the hate-built four of them in the first game. AND a mind-blowing monastery. With bared teeth and hate tears streaming down their faces.

Oh and they allowed you to lovingly rebuild one in a DLC by a total accident. Just a slip of the code.
 

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cvv

Stop making excuses for the fat obnoxious lying jew, you look like a cuck.
Six years isn't enough time to model a church, in a game called kingdom come.
Then I guess the only explanation is they hate churches.

And the hate-built four of them in the first game. AND a mind-blowing monastery. With bared teeth and hate tears streaming down their faces.

Oh and they allowed you to lovingly rebuild one in a DLC by a total accident. Just a slip of the code.
Huh. Wonder if anything about the studio - in particular, how it is staffed and funded - changed between the development of the first game and the second. Does anyone know?
 

fizzelopeguss

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Nigger, if kcd2 is anything like kcd1 then one of the biggest issues with the game is the lack of cool shit to actually look at. You might be from Bohemia and coom at the sight of flat hills and mud tracks but it really could use a bit more.
 

NecroLord

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Lmao, that scene where
The french cunt Brabant stabs the pole dude
...
:lol::lol:

I've seen the game is pretty much on autopilot in the last act.
To quote Synthetic Man:
"PLAYER CHOICE?"

Near endless bloody cutscenes.
Dialogue options are also more or less irrelevant, as are some of the skill checks.
 

Zayne

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So, I'm 22 hours in, just did the Wedding quest. (I assume "act 1" ends here)

a) The game is indeed more woke, while token gay characters shunned by narrow-minded peasants are okay, I kinda wish we had an option to also be a narrow-minded peasant and shun them right in the face. But it's not obnoxious.
b) The Cumans quest was worse. Ye, sure, you can kill them all, but the game really suggests that befriending the barbarians who burned Skalitz and raped Theresa is the right choice.
c) But what I've really hated is lack of player agency in Wedding-Trosky transition. My Henry is already full-plated chad, who single-handedly wiped all bandit camps and destroyed gay hermit with his bare hands. But in cutscene he is beaten by some random drunk and Hans has to save him.

Other major questslines: Gypsies were ok, Miller was great, Blacksmith was nice with KCD1 vibes
 

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The Polish guy gives Henry advice to please a woman with his mouth. That's actually pretty bad advice, don't listen to him.

Average Czech woman:

This is what Vavra finds attractive.
Make sure you know the context of this scene before you post it. Katherine is pretending here.
 

NecroLord

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Average Czech woman:

This is what Vavra finds attractive.

No.
This is what Vavra finds attractive:
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Paul_cz

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Churches should be open
Just watched an interview with Tobi today (his czech is ridiculously good considering he is german, wtf) where he was asked about this. It was a matter of manpower. They had to cut lot of stuff, not just church interiors but stuff like fishing, bard playing, better horse combat etc because they wanted to release the game in as polished state as humanly possible and it is better to have less stuff that is more polished than more stuff that's broken and buggy.
 

The Wall

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Churches should be open
Just watched an interview with Tobi today (his czech is ridiculously good considering he is german, wtf) where he was asked about this. It was a matter of manpower. They had to cut lot of stuff, not just church interiors but stuff like fishing, bard playing, better horse combat etc because they wanted to release the game in as polished state as humanly possible and it is better to have less stuff that is more polished than more stuff that's broken and buggy.
Ok. Now that you're successful, add all those things back in. Monastery Mystery DLC is perfect opportunity

Priority has always to be set, time and other resources are limited. So they prioritized things. Henry and Hans polishing each other's dicks > polished church interiors in heart of medieval age, in heart of Christian Europe, when Christianity was in heart of everyone's life and Christianity was at heart of Hussite Wars in shadow of which Story takes place

Synagogue was #1 priority. It gotta look as historically accurate as possible even thou in-game codex says it didn't exist. VERY Kosher Priorities
 
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Churches should be open
Just watched an interview with Tobi today (his czech is ridiculously good considering he is german, wtf) where he was asked about this. It was a matter of manpower. They had to cut lot of stuff, not just church interiors but stuff like fishing, bard playing, better horse combat etc because they wanted to release the game in as polished state as humanly possible and it is better to have less stuff that is more polished than more stuff that's broken and buggy.
Had the time for the synagogue, though.
 

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Churches should be open
Just watched an interview with Tobi today (his czech is ridiculously good considering he is german, wtf) where he was asked about this. It was a matter of manpower. They had to cut lot of stuff, not just church interiors but stuff like fishing, bard playing, better horse combat etc because they wanted to release the game in as polished state as humanly possible and it is better to have less stuff that is more polished than more stuff that's broken and buggy.
Some quests are also obviously suffering from lack of motion capture and this leads to dialogues looking a bit ridiculous at times, failing to sell the drama of the scene.
 

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