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Let's Play VtM: Wild Nights - Chapter 10

ironyuri

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I vote A.

Act as if everything is normal. No need to ask Earnes for permission. We had our chance with the Docklands shit. Don't bother her without anything useful.

Fucking idiots.
 

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ironyuri said:
I vote A.

Act as if everything is normal. No need to ask Earnes for permission. We had our chance with the Docklands shit. Don't bother her without anything useful.

Fucking idiots.

That was my rationale as well. I figured asking for permission would be more suspicious than just going out and leaving. I mean, it seems that even though we're a Tremere apprentice, we can still go as we please so long as we fill in our little log book, right?

If we're allowed to go of our own accord, then why the fuck are we asking for permission? Doesn't that seem odd? Personally, I think it's the worst of both worlds, since it's no good from an ass-kissing and staying under the radar perspective like C is, but at the same time it might arouse suspicion and not grant us juicy Sabbat info if Eames says no.

I basically think it's a half-measure, but it seems popular. I can get behind A, I like C the best, but I don't really understand B.
 

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Esquilax said:
ironyuri said:
I vote A.

Act as if everything is normal. No need to ask Earnes for permission. We had our chance with the Docklands shit. Don't bother her without anything useful.

Fucking idiots.

That was my rationale as well. I figured asking for permission would be more suspicious than just going out and leaving. I mean, it seems that even though we're a Tremere apprentice, we can still go as we please so long as we fill in our little log book, right?

If we're allowed to go of our own accord, then why the fuck are we asking for permission? Doesn't that seem odd? Personally, I think it's the worst of both worlds, since it's no good from an ass-kissing and staying under the radar perspective like C is, but at the same time it might arouse suspicion and not grant us juicy Sabbat info if Eames says no.

I basically think it's a half-measure, but it seems popular. I can get behind A, I like C the best, but I don't really understand B.

I'd forgotten what C was. If B is winning, I'm happy for my vote to go to C as well. Whichever is least involved with us trying to kiss Earnes' arse.

If we had done the Docklands shit for her, we'd have been kissing her arse while showing our worth. Kissing her arse for the sake of kissing her arse is what every Tremere apprentice ought be doing, it won't get us anywhere with someone like Earnes.
 
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We're just going there to ask if she needs us for anything before we go feed. Maybe she does, maybe not. The fact is that she can summon us and other apprentices anytime she wants, and I wouldn't want to not be there when she calls.
 

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*


Prince Kirkbeck keeps walking until the lights of the great house disappear beneath the trees.

Finally, he halts, gazing up at the churning roots of the rhododendrons that seem to creep further across the forest each night, and says,

“I promised them I would make myself into an automaton. Shrink my mind, think no more of politics or grand things. A pitiful, shuffling creatures, tending to roses and reading only the useless literature they provide for me. Cut off from my city, cut off from everything.”

“And yet you’re talking to me,” Robert Griddle replies, from the shadows beyond the path.

Kirkbeck smiles, weakly, to himself.

“It gets under your skin, this stuff,” he says. “You’ll learn it too, Robert, when your Anarchs grow sick of you and toss you out. It’s impossible to let go of it. To let go is to die.”

Griddle glances back up the path, wrapping his thick trenchcoat more firmly around him.

“A friend of mine managed to speak with Esteban du Marchais very briefly after his trial,” he says. “He’s…in a bad way. At first he seemed to suffer under the delusion that you’ll return to the city and revoke his sentence before it’s too late. Then he became more morose, accepting his fate. He recommended himself to you as your forever faithful servant, and said that, to the very end, he’d know that you only did exactly what you had to do.”

The Prince closes his eyes.

“Poor Esteban,” he murmurs. “He never deserved to come to this."

He reaches inside his jacket, pulling out a hefty brown file, filled with sheets of paper, tied together with string.

Griddle accepts it without a word.

“There’s plenty in there to be going on with,” Kirkbeck says. “Use it wisely.”

The Anarch’s delicate fingers flick through the edges of the sheaf.

“You’re sure you want to do this?” he asks, for a moment. “After all, you’re turning on the Camarilla.”

“I am forever loyal to the Camarilla,” Kirkbeck replies, with a certain curtness in his tone, “but I am not loyal to them. Plotters and schemers, usurpers - they don’t know that the Camarilla is the Prince’s authority. Bring them all down, Robert. That bitch Eames and Turcov and that little prick Sommers. The Camarilla will endure. But by the Dark Father’s blood, they will not.”

“I met Sommers,” Griddle says, “back in the springtime.”

Kirkbeck snorts.

“I can’t,” he snaps, “imagine that the two of you had much to talk about.”

“Not much,” says Griddle. “I told him I hoped he’d be on the right side, when the time came.”

Voices are ringing out through the night. Torchbeams flash, to the north.

“They’re looking for me,” the Prince says, dully. “I’m not supposed to go out walking without an escort. For my own safety. You can find your way out of the woods before dawn, Robert?”

Griddle nods, and tucks the file beneath his arm.

“I have a car waiting,” he replies.

“Don’t let the dogs catch you,” says Kirkbeck, with the slightest twitch of a smile. “It would be embarrassing, to say the least.”

He pats the Anarch, not unkindly, on the shoulder, turns, and strolls back towards the great house and the voices crying out his name.


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Storyfag said:
So, not backing Turcov when he wanted the Prince dead will come back and bite Tony in the arse. Let's hope it hits Eames first :smug:
It will. But the sabbat will have her head, anarchs can do whatever they want with the body. :smug:
 

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You mean if we rolled BROjah, our contact in the Camarilla would have been Kirkbeck?! That would have been awesome. You guys have failed to understand the greatness that is EXTREME.

:rage:
 

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You mean if we rolled BROjah, our contact in the Camarilla would have been Kirkbeck?! That would have been horrible. You guys have failed to understand the greatness that is EXTREME.

:rage:
We dodged a bullet here.
 

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Kz3r0 said:
Esquilax said:
You mean if we rolled BROjah, our contact in the Camarilla would have been Kirkbeck?! That would have been horrible. You guys have failed to understand the greatness that is EXTREME.

:rage:
We dodged a bullet here.

Dodging a bullet? Dude, we're playing a fucking Tremere who wants to join the Sabbat - I'd say we're in the line of fire as it is. The danger is part of the fun. This is all the more reason for a hardass BROjah to move against Bob Griddle and his weak-ass pandering to ex-Princes and go EXTREME on Kirkbeck's ass. You poor, lost souls don't understand what it truly means to be EXTREME.

Guys, the Brujah used to be a clan mostly comprised of Scholars. It's only in modern nights that their image has changed, really. And come on Lac, calling out the Brujah as a dumb clan is kinda hypocritical considering that you just whipped up that "let's ally with Sommers even though we've never met him" plan 2 pages ago. Just sayin'.

But hey, I honestly think Tony can turn a situation like this to his advantage. He's had the advantage of making a positive first impression on Griddle before the Sabbat war started, while Kirkbeck is allying with him only because he has to. I do understand the Prince's motivations in this - I just can't hate the guy like I do Eames. We took away his power and had his best friend killed - if another vamp kicked us out of Whitehall and murdered Eddie and Erika, everybody would react the way Kirkbeck is reacting. Not to say I particularly trust the guy, but I'll take him over Eames any day of the week.

We probably should have backed him from the get-go in Act I. If I'm Tony, I'll take a fellow Ventrue over Eames instantly.
 

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Esquilax said:
You mean if we rolled BROjah, our contact in the Camarilla would have been Kirkbeck?!

No, Kirkbeck would be GRIDDLE'S contact in the Camarilla, as the update clearly shows. The Rabble we would play would be a different one to Griddle, so no contacts with Kirkbeck for us...
 

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Yeah, it was probably du Marchais:

“A friend of mine managed to speak with Esteban du Marchais very briefly after his trial,” he says. “He’s…in a bad way. At first he seemed to suffer under the delusion that you’ll return to the city and revoke his sentence before it’s too late. Then he became more morose, accepting his fate. He recommended himself to you as your forever faithful servant, and said that, to the very end, he’d know that you only did exactly what you had to do.”
 

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Now, let's get record straight.

I didnt and dont advocate an alliance. IF and When Joan go to Sommers side she will be a sub. No backstab no upsurp no challenge no shit. He make a good master: take care of his 'associates', not too bright as demonstrated by being played by Eames but played the politic game well. She will be well used and safe with him.

THis is an important factor to consider since she's in the frying pan right now: being a Tremere with Sabbatical ties and with no ambition to get ahead (much).
 

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As it is now, it's still a moronic suggestion. If grotsnik ever produces any good reasons, within the framework of Joan's story, to flippity flop to Sommers, then we can have this discussion. We're playing an idealist here, even if her ideals are misguided and quite possible suicidal.
 

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which is why we should steal the vaulderie as soon as possible.
 

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SCO said:
which is why we should steal the vaulderie as soon as possible.

I don't understand what you mean here? Steal the Vaulderie? For what purpose? I don't know what you're getting at.

Lac, just stop. It is a dumb fucking idea - I've tried being nice about it, but it really is the stupidest idea I've heard in this thread so far. Please give it a rest.

She IS an idealist. It takes a very naive brand of idealism to believe that the Sabbat are all about running wild and free and that they'll come to destroy the oppressive Pyramid and its Methuselahs. It's pretty goddamn naive of her to speculate that there's a fucking Antediluvian under the Greenwich Chantry. It takes a pretty desperate, idealistic person to turn against a Clan that has successfully annihilated all of their antitribu as a means to free themselves. Also:

* Why the fuck would Tony hire her? What's in it for him? He has every reason to be suspicious of a Tremere who is eager to work for him. Tony's already used spies as pawns so he won't trust Joan, and at best he'll have her watched like he did Wilkinson (only this time maybe with a few Nosferatu on his payroll), then he'll just use her to get to Dubrik or Eames. Duh.

* Joan wants out of the Pyramid and out of the Camarilla. She hates these motherfuckers, all she wants is to be free. Tony was a pragmatist - his goal was power and respect. Joan's an idealist because what she wants most is simply freedom and revenge on those that took it from her. She's not particularly wise to seek out the Sabbat for freedom, but nobody said she was politically savvy. But goddamnit, right or wrong, she sees her romanticized view of the Sabbat as a way out, and we need to stay true to her character. .

* We've already made deals with Dubrik and we are currently under Eames' rule. We decide not to follow through on what we promised Dubrik and we abandon the Pyramid to work for some newly-made Baron who simply doesn't have the power to face off against established vamps like Dubrik/Eames, and they'll ALL want us dead.

No. We have promises to keep and a character with a certain set of motivations we need to stay true to. Fuck it, this is all moot anyways since they DON'T EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER. So yeah, give this moronic idea a rest, Lac. I'm not going to debate this stupid bullshit any further, I'm just writing this in case some poor soul starts to believe you're making sense.

Oh yeah, grotbro, what's the ETA on the next installment in this fine saga?
 
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Esquilax said:
SCO said:
which is why we should steal the vaulderie as soon as possible.

I don't understand what you mean here? Steal the Vaulderie? For what purpose? I don't know what you're getting at.

Didn't you notice SCO's obsession with Vaulderie on chapter 1? :lol:
 
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root said:
I haz a cunning plan that goes hand-in-hand with lac's ideals:

let us get close to sommers so we can steal THE VASE and give it to Dubrik to endear ourselves to him.

THE VASE! I know Esquilax will love to see it back in the story. :lol:
 

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Ah yes the Vase. We will return to it later.

As for Esquilax, let's just agree to disagree then. You and I have totally opposite interpretations of the presented facts.
 

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