Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

[Sweeper]

Have you ever seen a black person try to be quiet?

Point taken.

 

[Lacrymas]

The central plank of your hate for arcane casters is that they control the ability to create food and water in a world where food and water is scarce.

No, that is someone else's setting and has nothing to do with mine or my rationale for disallowing arcane magic in my own setting. It also has nothing to do with D&D and who can cast what there. Read the conversation again.

 

[Cael]

The central plank of your hate for arcane casters is that they control the ability to create food and water in a world where food and water is scarce.

No, that is someone else's setting and has nothing to do with mine or my rationale for disallowing arcane magic in my own setting. It also has nothing to do with D&D and who can cast what there. Read the conversation again.

He is pointing out a flaw in your argument. You hate arcane casters but allow clerics and druids. In other words, you allow magic for some and not another for some stupid rationale that you made up and assigned to one side but not the other. In your world view, blacks cannot be racist because they are blacks. Clerics/blacks cannot be bad because they are clerics. Arcane casters/whites are always racist. Why? Because of some arbitrary value you put on one side (assigning the illusionary justification) but not the other.

If you don't like magic, play a system that doesn't have magic. Don't come up with lame bullshit justification of why one particular type of magic is bad just because you don't like it.

I don't particularly like book Wizards either, and I just outright tell my players that book reading wizards don't exist in my campaigns because I don't like it. Not because of some bullshit about fascism. I don't like them, and so as DM, I am saying they don't exist.

 

[Lacrymas]

I already said why I do this - to remove the temptation to resist changes to/regulation of arcane spellcasters. I also regulate clerical/druidic magic. The setting feels different too. Arcane casters can be brought to heel, but I don't want to fight the symptom.

 

[Cael]

I already said why I do this - to remove the temptation to resist changes to/regulation of arcane spellcasters. I also regulate clerical/druidic magic. The setting feels different too. Arcane casters can be brought to heel, but I don't want to fight the symptom.

Your statement exhibits a strong hatred for arcane casters but not divine casters. You simply do not treat both the same, even though they are both casters. You make up bullshit justifications for your bigotry, but anyone with half a brain cell can see through your laughably transparent "reasons", which explains the reactions of some of the posters here in the first two pages of this thread.

 

[Lacrymas]

It is not the casting that's the problem, it's what it can do and who can do it. I also am on the record saying I don't like most arcane spellcasters.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

I completely forgot that lacrymas thinks wizards are fascists, lol

 

[Storyfag]

Looking at olympic medalists? Yes.

And this somehow has lead to political institutions that put black sprinters with olympic medals at the top of influence? Don't pretend in-born magical power that can alter reality is the same as running fast.

Glad you accept that reality is inherently fascist m'xir.

Firstly, you will also notice that there are no political institutions that put geniuses at the top of influence. Or gifted hackers who, in this day and age, hold as much power as DnD wizards.

Secondly, you should be well aware that only sorcerers have in-born powers in DnD. Wizards educate xirselves, and warlocks bargain with dark powers.

Nothing of what you are saying is connected to what I said, though? Or logically follows from anything I've ever said.

Ok, let's try with a quest compass:
In the real world individuals with breathtaking talent (likely of fascist origins, but that is besides the point) can hack the world to pieces better than a nuke.
How is it that those individuals, despite their power, have not formed a hackerocratic totalitarian dictatorship?

*crickets*

 

[Lacrymas]

How do you know such individuals exist? How can they influence the world? Is there someone who can stop them? Are you born with the ability?

 

[Storyfag]

How do you know such individuals exist? How can they influence the world? Is there someone who can stop them? Are you born with the ability?

Media. Crashing the economy. No. Are DnD Wizards born with their spellcasting abilities?

 

[Grunker]

Infinitron how does Lacrymas not have an autist-tag after this thread

 

[Storyfag]

Infinitron how does Lacrymas not have an autist-tag after this thread

Because it should be a possibly retarded tag.

 

[Cael]

It is not the casting that's the problem, it's what it can do and who can do it. I also am on the record saying I don't like most arcane spellcasters.

The problem is not that you are a flaming bigot. It is that you try to disguise it by trying to link arcane casters to something distasteful in order to justify your hate. You are like a sjw leftard fuckhead cunt accusing people whom you do not like for not doing what you tell them to do as alt-right. There is no reason for it, there is no real justification. You just do it because you want to feel better about hating something.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Are you born with the ability?

Overall intelligence level is strongly dependent on race and genetics. You won't find much geniuses among the kids of druggies or some lumpens.

 

[Lacrymas]

Are DnD Wizards born with their spellcasting abilities?

I have always claimed that only wizards who are born with the right genes to learn magic are fascy, so this is a total non-sequitur. It's not that they hold such beliefs, but that it's a fascy concept.

 

[Storyfag]

Are you born with the ability?

Overall intelligence level is strongly dependent on race and genetics. You won't find much geniuses among the kids of druggies or some lumpens.

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111111oneoneoneoneeleveneleven

 

[Ol' Willy]

how does Lacrymas not have an autist-tag after this thread

He gives tags only for white supremacism and antisemitism. Lacrymas is on the allowed side of the spectrum

 

[Storyfag]

Are DnD Wizards born with their spellcasting abilities?

I have always claimed that only wizards who are born with the right genes to learn magic are fascy, so this is a total non-sequitur. It's not that they hold such beliefs, but that it's a fascy concept.

Ahkay. But how being born with the ability to crash the global economy or being able to learn that ability bears on the fact that we do not live in a hackerocratic totalitarian dictatorship?

 

[Lacrymas]

Because there is no such thing of which you speak.

 

[Parabalus]

Are DnD Wizards born with their spellcasting abilities?

I have always claimed that only wizards who are born with the right genes to learn magic are fascy, so this is a total non-sequitur. It's not that they hold such beliefs, but that it's a fascy concept.

Doesn't this also apply to divine casters? They also need stats.

 

[Lacrymas]

Are DnD Wizards born with their spellcasting abilities?

I have always claimed that only wizards who are born with the right genes to learn magic are fascy, so this is a total non-sequitur. It's not that they hold such beliefs, but that it's a fascy concept.

Doesn't this also apply to divine casters? They also need stats.

Stats aren't an in-universe justification.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

why not ban fighters too?
people with high strength are more likely to be fascist

 

[Storyfag]

Because there is no such thing of which you speak.

Sauce.

 

[Lacrymas]

Because there is no such thing of which you speak.

Sauce.

How can I prove a negative? You have to prove such people exist.

 

[Storyfag]

Because there is no such thing of which you speak.

Sauce.

How can I prove a negative? You have to prove such people exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Mitnick