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Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

Discussion in 'The Gazebo' started by Larianshill, Mar 11, 2021.

  1. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    You see, Meredoth, despite being insane, was at least raised with some manners. We need more of that these days.
     
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  2. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Lest we trigger someone. We wouldn't want that, now would we?
     
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  3. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    It's true my friend, ungratefulness is the one thing I can never get over.
    Maybe when my cynicism reaches critical levels.
     
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  4. Gahbreeil Educated

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    Are they supposed to be angels? Also, it's a cool idea that only clerical magic exists.
     
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    Both me and Larianshill kind of went into it for the wrong reasons, I think. While Larianshill seemed to have joined out of pure irony, I went in with a genuine interest in what it'd be like to play, but expecting - honestly - the worst. So I didn't come into it with much seriousness myself, and then having Larianshill involved kind of got me joining the bandwagon of "having fun with it". I'm assuming here - I don't want to claim that's how Larianshill really went into it, just the way it felt. I indicated my reservations about the game to some other Codex member when they asked me why the fuck am I joining and basically said - look, it might be terrible, but I want to actually experience it.

    Ultimately, I think the setting could be interesting for a long-term campaign, if Lacrymas follows my advice on setting up a proper design doc / wiki for players to learn about it before creating their characters - or runs a proper session 0 beforehand and answers most questions. A setting this specific needs specific characters to work, and the oneshot he has prepared as an "introductory adventure" does not service that well enough.

    We didn't play enough for me to properly judge, and I'm spoiled by some abso-fucking-lutely excellent DMs that I play with, and the party chemistry was nowhere near good enough to support a homebrew world. But it's not bad on its own merit from what I've seen. With Lacry being a bit more comfortable DMing in a good group, it being long-term, and everyone having enough info to get themselves involved in it, I think it could be fun. I don't think the session we had was overall very representative of the setting itself - more of the group and Lacrymas' prep for it.
     
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  6. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    Thanks for the useful information SoupNazi.
    Lacrymas this is good feedback. And, yes, you do need to have a session 0 no matter what.
     
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  7. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    Was this done on voice or was it by post btw?
     
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  8. Larianshill Arbiter

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    Is there anything else I could do to make you personally more upset? I would very much like that.
     
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  9. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    Not really, you've reached the limit of piece-of-shitness, you're all set!
     
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  10. Larianshill Arbiter

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    Thanks, it means a lot to me.


    I've joined the game - and I declared it openly - purely to see how absolutely insane and terrible the setting is, and how much of craziness posted in this thread would be actually relevant to the game. I didn't end up seeing any of that - all the problems I've had with the game, which I relayed both in the chat and in this thread, were with the execution of it, not any ideas behind the setting.
     
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  11. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    The onus is on the architect of this madness for taking in a self-admitted saboteur at this point, then.
     
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  12. Lacrymas Arcane

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    This is exactly what I wanted. I wanted someone who is ready and already willing to tell me the worst possible things about it.
     
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  13. Rean Ask me about Sen no Kiseki Patron

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    Ok!
     
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  14. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Lacrymas please add mages. I want at least 50 more pages of fun.
     
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  15. Cryomancer Arcane Glory to Ukraine

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    If he will add arcane, I suggest making then a enemy only/NPC only and implementing only warlocks.
     
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  16. Demo.Graph Savant

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    Plot twist!

    Mages live on the clouds and gather all the mana that might've seeped below otherwise. Then they beam that mana on quota to the "clerics" below. Clerics organize an industrial-scale suffering in exchange, believing that mages are gods. All those rapecamp unborn castrations are there for a reason - people need to suffer. Mages then filter their emotions into raegmana. Because human emotions are produced by souls and emanate right out of godspark. Only godspark products tinted red can be molded into weapons that are able to harm horrors from outside the world. The horrors gnaw on the edges of the world and cloudmages are scared shitless of them. And they think, they're losing, because horrors become more aggressive with each new century.
    There're no mages on the ground, because cloudmage agents gather all potential pupils and throw them into the grinder of the eternal horror war. And those they do miss can't really become proper mages because of the mana filter in the sky. Cloudmages are highly sophisticated (fascistic) bureaucracy. There's a possibility for scenes involving mage-managers trying to increase pain production without damaging population reproduction too much, with waterfall charts and stuff.
    Orcs are artificially maintained by skymages as an enemy for the priests' empire to generate more angst.
    Skymages are directly against improving living conditions below because they're too afraid of weakening their own weapons production. And because lovemana that is produced by happy humans would attract even more horrors (or so they think; there's might be another twist - horrors are "immune cells of the multiverse", carrion birds attracted by suffering, so skymages unknowingly make the crisis worse).

    Does the setting looks more interesting this way?
     
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  17. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Yes. At least there is a real reason for all the incoherent shit that the idiot had stuttered through.
     
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  18. Cryomancer Arcane Glory to Ukraine

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    Sorry for reanimating this thread, but I wanna suggest magery for Lacrymas(obviously he does anything that he wanna, just a suggestion)
    1. Magery is NPC only
    2. Magery is inherently evil and chaotic.
    3. Magery fells completely alien and unnatural.
    4. Magery is hated and a inquisition wanna eradicate everyone suspected to be a magician.
    5. Mages area always chaotic evil and get vulnerability vs fire, radiant and holy damage.

    If most divine spells from clerics and druids deals fire and radiant damage, arcane magic should deal cold and necrotic damage mostly. all PHB spell which deals fire, radiant or any type of energy is "re writen" to deal cold or necrotic damage. Eg - Fireball becomes Eldritch Ball. Becoming a magic user involves making a pact with dangerous nasty alien creatures and that is the unique way to get magical knowledge and one of the few ways to get scrolls. This creatures demands a high cost for the service, like in exchange of a circle 5 spell like cone of cold, the magic user must sacrifice five innocent people in a ritual sacricie which steals the soul of the victims and give it to the eldritch demon. If the mages fails to please the demon, the demon becomes hostile towards the mage and he has crazy high resistances vs magic as creature of pure eldritch arcane energy.

    The eldritch demon instead of a being of fire(as demons traditionally are) will be a being of pure coldness and darkness. Any PC who attempts to become a magic user becomes chaotic evil and under the GM control. He is no longer a PC, he is now a NPC villain. Far away from the main desert where the adventure takes place, there are a desolated tundra, full of ice, snowstorms, ruled by a very fascist magocracy. Politically speaking, they are akin to Morrowind's house Telvanni. Very chaotic, but far more authoritarian against common people. Where the strong rule over the weak and most people living there are slaves. Their "mage towers" are akin to Telvanni buildings but "snowy",

    They developed some really nasty rituals. Criminals are often transformed into trolls and mages constantly cut the limbs of the trolls to get meat to eat exploiting the regeneration of trolls. Every peasant in the villages get their intelligence tested with divination magic. Those who have high IQ are often awarded apprenticeship with powerful mages. Those with low IQ are thralls.

    Powerful mages some times fear their apprentices and send then in suicide missions or kill then in plain sight. But that is rare as they are incredible arrogant.
     
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  19. Reinhardt Arcane

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    Don't forget "magery is GAY". At least inquisition can just round all men in dresses for easy solution to the problem.
     
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  20. Lacrymas Arcane

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    That gives me an idea - arcane magic is only available to homosexuals (bisexuals don't cut it, not gay enough). Have fun.
     
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  21. Oberon Learned

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    This makes a lot of sense actually. Didn't Aleister Crowley himself swear by the effectiveness of gay sodomy is sex rituals?
    Probably something to do with the inherent evil of such a vile and unnatural act being pleasing to demons, like child blood sacrifices.
     
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    Cart before the horse, methinks.
     
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  23. Lacrymas Arcane

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    The power, he argues, comes from transgressing societal norms, not anal sex between men in itself. He was a bottom btw.
     
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  24. Oberon Learned

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    A microcosm of the great transgression by his master Lucifer, the original radical. As above so below.
     
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  25. Demo.Graph Savant

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    If this thread is about wokeness, it should be there.
     
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