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We're still going together. Just some distance behind them, to not antagonise them overtly by our presence.
 

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We're still going together. Just some distance behind them, to not antagonise them overtly by our presence.
we wont even state that we will follow. because you know thats the point of B. i just dont like going back on our word and breaking all that 'hard work' fixing relations
 

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the problem is WE proposed to go together. and then for no reason whatsoever you go NOPE! by rep i mean our newly found orthodox friends.
You mean, the Wudang that will go with them on your behalf?

What happens if we don't go? It's not like we are making them look like idiots by hiding the real sword like you first proposed. To go or not to go is our choice. If we don't want the 'glory', too bad for us, but in no way it is 'going back on our word' and 'bad for our rep'.

We proposed that those that could go, should. Well, we couldn't. Toodles.
 

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Here is the B choice.
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You will travel separately from Nie Wuxing; you will have Guo Fu and the Wudang contingent accompany them in your stead, while you follow quietly from a short distance behind. You do not want them noticing too many things.
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We will be traveling them no matter which we choose.

Essential it boils to this:

A= one big group
B= two groups within small distance between them,

We will be not sneaking behind them, but travel with them.
 

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Ah, that's true, too.

I am still not sure. If nothing drastic happens, it would be difficult to explain the change in our course once the Amesha Spenta arrive (and no, we are not travelling together with Wuxing after that). Moreover, the zhangs are becoming desperate, and we are nearing the place where Lanhai's kids are held. Chances are, zhangs will try and force their hand.

Do we want Madam Nie and Co. to catch up on our relationship with Yunzi, Armaiti and Xuezi?

I am not averse to risk, I just don't know if the information would be worth it now that we know Wuxing's plan won't pan out due to the sword being fake.

By the way, treave, do the rest of Nie's group know of our injury? Shun told everyone to keep what happened a secret, but is our condition one, too? And if we accept the Saint's offer, will they know where we got the arm from right away?
 
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Goodbye bai relationship, You died because 'dex wants to behave like a little insulted, sulking primadonna.

Well if we are following them in line of sight then its completly redundant, AND we lose out on interractions with both current and potential allies.
 

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Well there are other people there than hueshan guys.
We still don't know how the taishan or Kunlun discplines fit in all of this.

Especially since that staff guy seemed bit nervous with Gao...Not to mention there is one Zhang family member there, who could potentially slip some important information.
 

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Also as I said if we take the NEW ameshas they are not known to the orthodox world and can go under the radar.
 

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Well they could think that Armaiti, Yunzi and Xuezi follow us since Man-tiger-pig has that special touch with ladies.

Of course traveling in one group gives them chance to manipulate us and gain information about us, but we can also do that.
The million dollar question is, do we want to risk it?
 

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Youve all grown old and cowardly in your ways. +M

I reserve the right to go cowardly with my choices later on.
 

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Yeah, some random persian fighters traveling with the Holy Maiden with powers corresponding to the Amesha Spenta that the orthodoxes fought two years ago. Now who might they be? :roll:

That is right after we've had a paroxysm of paranoia with 'two cultists are too many! they will definitely murder death kill us! alert! alert!'

Oh, the 'Dex. Never change.
 

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It could be said that Jings group is not naiive nor stupid. So we should be ok on the counterinteligence front.
 

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Yeah, some random persian fighters traveling with the Holy Maiden with powers corresponding to the Amesha Spenta that the orthodoxes fought two years ago. Now who might they be? :roll:

That is right after we've had a paroxism of paranoia with 'two cultists are too many! they will definitely murder death kill us! alert! alert!'

Oh, the 'Dex. Never change.
Nevill they are new. also not all of the cult are persians. also they are travelling with us not Tsunzi.and finaly we can just hand wave them as friends met on our travels +M
 

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The fun part will be when they bow before us and call us 'Lord Xu.' Oh, the looks on the Douchebag Council's faces!
 

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The fun part will be when they bow before us and call us 'Lord Xu.' Oh, the looks on the Douchebag Council's faces!
No, they will call us 'Lord Jing' and wink at us suggestively. Which would probably have the same effect, but the devil is in the details. ;)
 

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Ameretat and Rob give zero fucks (probably will do it just for the trolling), Haurvatat is all about propriety. Manah may not, but I doubt it.
 

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Yeah, some random persian fighters traveling with the Holy Maiden with powers corresponding to the Amesha Spenta that the orthodoxes fought two years ago. Now who might they be? :roll:

That is right after we've had a paroxysm of paranoia with 'two cultists are too many! they will definitely murder death kill us! alert! alert!'

Oh, the 'Dex. Never change.

Aaah, but attacking us is against the spirit of our little group and it would look bad especially after we all had agreed to travel together
Technically Yunzi and armaiti are part of our strange entourage.

After all we have killer doctor appearince, wudu princess, Renegade Qincheng princess and emei-nun. Couple of firecult members adds just little variety to our own circus entourage.
Besides Nie Wuxing himself said that they don't care, if we travel with the little fire princes, because we have already quite strange traveling band
 

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Who said anything about attacking? It would look bad for Wuxing if any of his group is caught doing that after we've agreed to put our differences aside. It is not to be excluded completely, but it is not all that probable.

Things that we can give away by traveling together, off the top of my head:
- Our ownership of Wuxiang Qiankun (if we get attacked by a third party or if Qingfeng and Lanhai are forced into it, since they don't really care about the spirit of our group nearly as much as about their children)
- Our allegiance with the Fire Cult (they already suspect something since we are traveling with the Holy Maiden. Wuxing may say that they don't care - likely because our proposal shields us and our companions somewhat, - but if more of the Fire Cult joins us, it will send a message)
- Both at the same time (which is bad for obvious reasons)

We have plenty of things to hide.
 

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Who said anything about attacking? It would look bad for Wuxing if any of his group is caught doing that after we've agreed to put our differences adside. It is not to be excluded completely, but it is not all that probable.

Things that we can give away by traveling together, off the top of my head:
- Our ownership of Wuxiang Qiankun (if we get attacked by a third party or if Qingfeng and Lanhai are forced into it, since they don't really care about the spirit of our group nearly as much as about their children)
- Our allegiance with the Fire Cult (they already suspect something since we are traveling with the Holy Maiden. Wuxing says that may not care (likely because our proposal shields us and our companions somewhat), but if more of the Fire Cult joins us, it will send a message)
- Both at the same time (which is bad for obvious reasons)

We have plenty of things to hide.
actualy traveling together we can say we know where their children are and get their help in saving them. should help them loose that graveyard mood of theirs too
 

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Good point.

hmmm.
Unless...

Perhaps Amesha spenta business can be explained with problems between Ahura and Yunzi or some sort of other firecult business.
Perhaps Holy maiden had her own ideas and summoned her servants or perhaps that nasty firelord send men to get Yunzi back to kitchen to make sandwhich.

Of course we could still accidently reveal ourselves as the new Firelord, but I don't think that it's the first thing they think if extra amesha spenta arrives...However Wuxiang Qiankun does presents a problem, especially with the temptation to spam it. Then again we should have no problem with that if we do not use it...Right
:troll:

The biggest threat I see it's in manipulation by Madam Nie. Not necessarily just with Qilin, but with us as well. Not to mention we can screw up our current realitionship gains with brosects.
 

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Perhaps Amesha spenta business can be explained with problems between Ahura and Yunzi or some sort of other firecult business.
Perhaps Holy maiden had her own ideas and summoned her servants or perhaps that nasty firelord send men to get Yunzi back to kitchen to make sandwhich.
It's one thing if we have a stray cultist with us. It's another if we have half of the Temple following us around. It brings attention to us, and it raises some sensitive question. Shaolin wanted us to keep it a secret for as long as possible for a reason.

Of course, maybe we should not call for them in the first place if that's the case... but I just miss them too much to refuse their company. :)

The biggest threat I see it's in manipulation by Madam Nie. Not necessarily just with Qilin, but with us as well. Not to mention we can screw up our current realitionship gains with brosects.
Well, Qilin is safe from her for the time being, thanks to us facing the Nie couple together, and Madam Nie has no real power over others. Poisoning them with words does not work half as well if they don't have a reason to care about your opinion one way or the other. She might still raise some tensions between our girls.

I am incredibly suspicious of the fact that she abandoned her attempt to take Qilin by force. Madam Nie is not one to surrender easily... or at all.

Travelling with a master poisoner makes me uneasy. Sure, between Qilin's and Cao'er's expertise we'll be fine, but we have 7 companions to keep an eye on. We might find ourselves in an unpleasant situation if things get out of hand.
 
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True.
Aah, the pain of C&C.

Of course this leaves Guo Fu and Wudang brothers to act as our ears as well leave them under influence of Nie family, without us negating their influence of our bro.
 

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Of course this leaves Guo Fu and Wudang brothers to act as our ears as well leave them under influence of Nie family, without us negating their influence of our bro.
Maybe. But the initiative to boycott Wuxing as the leader of the pugilistic world came from Wudang, so I'm not too worried about that.

They know Wuxing for the sleazebag that he is, even if Guo Fu does not.
 

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I think we can trust the Wu bros to keep an eye on Bro Fu. And as for Madam Nie, I don't think she will have much time to influence Qilin during her Maniac Training montage if we travel separately.
 

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