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Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Aug 29, 2013.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    All right, I am completely confused as to whether there will be a fight or a poetry match, who will be opposing whom, and how do we fit into this picture at all when by all means it looks like an internal family matter.

    Still, things got interesting enough for me to pick up D again.

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    Feminism 101 Tally (open)
    Kipeci D>B
    Lambchop19 C>E
    Jester E>D
    Akkudakku C
    Kashmir Slippers E>D
    Azira A
    Fangshi E>C
    Nevill D
    Grimgravy E
    Absinthe A>D>F
    Rex Feral D
    Kz3r0 C
    TOME D>E
    Tribute C>F>A
    Elfberserker D
    asxetos C
    Bloodshifter C
    Sunnmøring F> !C
    Tigranes A>D

    A - 3 (1) Absinthe & Tigranes -> D
    B - 0
    C - 6 (7)
    D - 5 (10)
    E - 4 (1) Kashmir Slippers & Jester -> D, Fangshi -> C
    F - 1 (0) Sunnmøring -> D
     
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  2. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    eeh, flopping to D
    Xu Jing must continue being biggest feminism in the land and continue fight patriarchy!

    In no any shape or order do I want to watch that comedy godl when Nie wuxing has that time stopping face of pure shock/confusion sheer wtf when his daughter challenge him to become independent.
    Nor anyway I am eager to hear the trolling mouth of Xu Jing, while Nie wuxing pleads or yells towards his daughters in vain attempt to keep twin flowers under his caring fatherly hand.

     
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  3. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Vairy Well. A>D
     
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  4. treave Arcane Patron

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    Looks like D, then?
     
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  5. treave Arcane Patron

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    Cold Morning

    You did not have to wait until morning for Nie Wuxing to demand that you return the twins; in the first place, you did not expect him to sit around idly when his daughters’ chastity is at stake anyway. By the time you got around to a decision with the twins, and the business of arranging a meeting place, however, the sun had begun to rise over the river.

    In the early hours of dawn, Banhe Town’s central square is deserted, the dozens of vendors that keep its nightlife thriving having closed their stalls and returned home after a good night’s work. The only people in the chilly square at the moment are those who are about to be involved in ‘a rather bothersome spot of trouble’, as the Sword Saint put it. He did not seem too enthused about getting dragged into this matter, but Nie Wuxing had made a personal request seeking his aid as a mediator.

    Upon seeing you and his daughters, Nie advances, striding forth with purpose.

    “Father-“

    “Did he touch the both of you?” he barks gruffly. He seems calmer than you had expected: you had come thinking that Nie’s face would have been purple with rage. Looking past him, you catch Madam Nie gazing at you and smiling faintly.

    “N-no, father, nothing of the sort, but-“

    Giving you a withering glance, Nie Wuxing continues, “It is time to put an end to this foolishness and come back. I will chalk this up to the folly of youth and let things be.” His daughters stare up at him, and you wonder if they will capitulate.

    “No. We will not be returning.” Nie Shuixian is the first to reject her father’s demand. It looks like they have decided to follow through with the plan.

    Nie Wuxing sighs heavily, as if he had expected such an answer all along. “Xu Jing’s words of poison have gotten to you, it seems. I thought you had more sense than that, Shuixian. Mudan, please do not tell me that you share your sister’s sentiment?”

    Nie Mudan shrinks back slightly. “I will stay with Shuixian.”

    “This is a disgrace,” mutters Nie. His gaze turns back to you, accusing and eager to cast blame. “Are you going to take responsibility for them, then?”

    “Me?” You shake your head, grinning. “Of course not!”

    Nie Wuxing’s scowl only grows deeper at your answer. “What do you mean?” he asks, his voice showing restraint.

    “Your daughters have to take responsibility for themselves. Come now, Master Nie, you know that you cannot coddle them forever?”

    “Preposterous! I will not allow you to toy with my daughters and then leave them to do as you please!” shouts Nie, finally enraged.

    “He did not lay a finger on us, father!” pleads Shuixian.

    “That’s right,” you nod. “Not a single finger at all.”

    “You expect me to believe that? You? Restraining yourself with women?” Nie jabs his finger at the air, pointing at your chest.

    “I assure you, Master Nie, the stories about my prowess are highly exaggerated. You need only ask your wife.”

    “Xu Jing!” snaps Madam Nie suddenly, “Do not spread any more of your spurious lies. Now, what you actually mean is that you wish for our daughters to be like Miss Song of Qingcheng, do you not?”

    “It is their wish, not mine,” you clarify, although you had spent time persuading them that it was the right thing to do.

    Nie Wuxing looks at Lingshu, and then shakes his head. It seems that he will not comment on what he thinks about her actions; it would probably be undiplomatic to speak his thoughts at this moment. Turning to his daughters instead, he warns, “If that is what you wish... If you want to walk the jianghu alone, against the wishes of your family and your sect, this is tantamount to cutting all ties with us. You will be exiled. You will no longer be considered disciples of Huashan… and I will no longer consider you my daughters.”

    Shuixian and Mudan give each other a nervous look. Then, they nod resolutely.

    Nie seems taken aback by their agreement. “Are you sure? Do not make this decision rashly,” he says softly. They nod a second time, and he closes his eyes. “Very well. The rules of our sect are clear.” He raises his hand. “Those exiled from Huashan are to be stripped of all Huashan arts, by force if necessary!”

    Exerting his qi, he brings his palm down in a powerful strike designed to cripple their meridians.

    The twins squeeze their eyes shut, huddling together.

    “What is this?” Nie Wuxing frowns, glaring at you. You have darted in front of him, blocking his palm with your fist at the last second. Behind you, you can feel the twins’ surprised stare boring into your back.

    “I am sure there are exceptions to the rule, Master Nie. Don’t you think you are being too mean to your daughters?” you grin.

    “They are no longer my daughters, thanks to your lies!” he roars.

    “You may talk when you put your own cowardly skin on the line to take responsibility for what you have done,” growls Nie.

    “Hey,” says the Sword Saint suddenly. He has remained silent and rather disinterested in the proceedings thus far, and his voice draws the attention of everyone in the square to him. “I just realized that if you cripple your daughters here, they are going to die sooner or later if they want to be involved in the jianghu.”

    “That is the point of a punishment,” says Madam Nie.

    “Yes, yes, I know,” sighs Shangguan Chuji as he scratches his head with his one good hand. “I suppose settling it with a duel is the traditional way to handle these things. You do know that the code dictates you fight your daughters, right?”

    Nie replies reluctantly. “Yes. If they insist on becoming independent, they cannot shy away from their obligations to the pugilistic world. I would rather that they die than disgrace themselves even further. But in this case… this Xu Jing is the culprit behind the whole mess. He cannot be allowed to get away without answering for his deeds.”

    “It is our own decision, father,” insists Nie Shuixian.

    “If there is to be a fight, I will step up to it. Xu Jing has nothing to do with this,” adds Nie Mudan.

    “You… imbecilic daughters of mine!” splutters Nie Wuxing.

    Bai Jiutian makes a small polite cough as she steps forward. “Shifu, if I may?”

    “Yes, what is it, Jiutian?” grumbles Nie irritatedly.

    “Rather than a traditional duel, why not make it a test of both wits and strength?” she suggests. “As disciples of Huashan we pride ourselves on being well-rounded pugilists, steeped in the culture of martial arts as art. A brutish duel would not be a fitting way to handle this matter.”

    “What do you have in mind, then?” you ask.

    “Still a duel,” she smiles, “but one that tests both your mind and body. It will be a mock duel where the duelists are to move according to the exact instructions of their partner, who will not be involved directly in the fight.”

    You understand what she is getting at: this is how Master Zhang instructed you against the Castration Nuns of Emei a few years ago.

    “Three duelists and one tactician from each side, competing in a game of strategy, skill and understanding of martial arts. It is a training method we commonly use in Huashan,” explains Bai.

    “Bai-shixiong is right,” says Mudan. “We’ve done this before.”

    “It makes no difference… my wayward daughters will still face their responsibility in the end.” Stepping back, Nie Wuxing places one hand on the hilt of his Chunjun Sword. “If you are a true man and pugilist, Xu Jing, you will face me in battle.”

    “Just so you know, if you try to fight your way out and escape without a proper end to things, I will attempt to stop you,” says the Sword Saint. He is looking directly at you. “Since I have accepted this troublesome role, I will try to see it through to the end.”

    ***

    A. You elect to go with the duel.
    1. You will duel Nie Wuxing yourself.
    2. You let the twins duel Nie Wuxing.

    B. You elect to go with Bai Jiutian’s mock duel.
    Select a team of 3 duelists and 1 tactician from these members:
    I.
    Xu Jing
    II. Nie Shuixian
    III. Nie Mudan
    IV. Chi Qilin
    V. Cao’er
    VI. Yunzi
    VII. Armaiti
    VIII. Song Lingshu
    IX. Yifang
    X. Xuezi

    C. Make up your own suggestion, although if the other side does not agree to it, you will likely have to accept one of the other alternatives or flee, forcing the Sword Saint to act against you.
     
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  6. The Brazilian Slaughter Arcane

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    Interesting... I need to think before I commit.

    I don't Nie's slight to Jing's honour there, through we can't fight him ATM.
     
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  7. Should have taken responsibility. *sigh* our poor harem is always getting neglected...

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    Xuezi is the obvious win as a tactician. It's just a question of if we can trust her. I believe we can. My choice of duelist may change, but I don't like the idea of us attacking their father right now and I want to give Song a chance to pay them back for what they just said.

    As for the twins, as I said, they have experience following directions in a fight like this and it may be that not all of the others would be willing to follow every direction.

    Also, it's interesting that Bai would suggest this, knowing that they've done this before. It almost looks as if she's trying to give them a fighting chance.
     
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  8. Nevill Arcane

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    Well...

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    That went not exactly as expected.

    We can't leave the duel with Wuxing to the Twins. Not only they would be less than willing to fight their father, but he surpassess them in skill by leaps and bounds.

    I suppose we would be able to defeat Wuxing if we fall back to our WQS, although we would have to pay a hefty price for the victory. Not to mention that Madam Nie will immediately send everyone and their dog after us if BJ didn't tell her about us already.

    The mock duel seems to be the our most realistic chance out of the three, but also the most complex to get right. I imagine Bai Jiutian will volunteer as a duelist and Madam Nie will be the tactician. treave, who would be the third duelist on team Nie? Do they choose from the people present? Who else is around?

    I wonder how would Xuezi fare as a tactician. Her fighting experience is immense, but her communication skills are lacking, to say the least. Still, she does get her point across rather quickly when she puts her mind to it.

    We might fall back to Qilin as a Madam Nie Jr., but I expect her to lack a certain deviousness that comes with age.

    My first drafts would be:

    Tactician - Xuezi
    Xu Jing, Yunzi and Armaiti - for team Fire. How well Yunzi would be able to listen to the orders is anyone's guess.

    Tactician - Xuezi
    Xu Jing, and the Twins - we all have had experience with this kind of combat before, and we are responsible for this mess. It would be fitting to face the challenge together.

    Tactician - Qilin, as she is familiar with Madam Nie's methods and can extrapolate what works for the Twins and what doesn't, though she knows nothing about Huashan martial arts
    Xu Jing, and the Twins - as per above.
     
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  9. Nevill, one thing I should mention that I didn't mention in my post above. The catch is it's one of those paranoid things you hate, but I'll mention it anyway:

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    While I do trust Xuezi to win the match - her pride would not allow her to throw it - I do not trust her in controlling Jing against Nie. I have a sneaking suspicion that she will use us to kill him. Nie's death may be Madam Nie's goal. Now that she has born him an heir, if he dies, control of the family will fall to her. If she had struck a bargain with Xuezi on this for the manual, it may be that thing that Xuezi wants to order us to do without question at some point in the future.
    Again, this is just an off the wall theory.

    Plus, I like the idea of us trolling Nie's challenge to our honor and making him fight a bunch of girls, including his daughters. :troll:
     
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  10. Kipeci Arcane

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    Might it work to have Cao'er as the tactician? She has crazy good intelligence and perception to process everything on the field of battle as well as what to focus on in a fight given her medical training.
     
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  11. I considered this too, but she doesn't have a tactician's mind or much combat experience. It's not enough to see your enemy. You also have to know what to do.
     
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  12. Nevill Arcane

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    Nah, I love paranoid things. :)

    The theory is not something I have considered, but if Wuxing's death is Xuezi's goal, then I don't see why it would be better that she kills him through some other teammate of ours. Do you think that others will not follow her instructions with complete trust? If so, then we have already lost.

    No, I think we have no choice but to place our faith in the tactician. Xuezi promised to listen to us if we did her a favor in the future - in words of Uncle Huodu, why would she sabotage her own powerbase like that?

    Not only that, but the control of the family is already in Madam Nie's hands. She can make Wuxing do whatever she wants, even sell his own daughters to Man Tiger Pig. In the great scheme of things, Wuxing is a puppet, nothing more. And it is best for the puppeteer to pull strings from behind the curtain.

    Yes, one of the things Xuezi has that nobody else here doesn't is a knowledge of tactics from time immemorial as well as the knowledge of most martial arts schools. She was probably around when the sects were first found and she had fought them all. At once, even.
     
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  13. The others don't possess the raw power that we do and I doubt that Nie's daughters or the kind Miss Song would possess the killer instinct to do it. Jing, on the other hand, has been killing people since before the LP started. If it gets Xuezi the manual, it'd all be worth it to her. Maybe. Just a theory.
    It looks like that to us from the outside, but she still has to convince him to act in order to accomplish her purposes. It could be that there is a future action she has planned that she knows he won't take. Something only she has the will to order.
     
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  14. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Xu Jing is probably a better tactician than Xuezi and Qilin both. :troll:
     
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  15. Nevill Arcane

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    I don't subscribe to that theory, as Wuxing makes for a perfect leader because of his impeccable reputation that makes him above suspicion, something that Madam Nie does not really have. If she has to order something utterly despicable that she wouln't be able to convince her husband to do, it would be a problem to make the others follow.

    Plus, seeing how Bai Jiutian is certain that women are not fit to lead a faction, I think there is some sentiment in Huashan to that effect.

    No, I think Madam Nie have found her perfect place. Now, if she can get Bai Jiutian installed as the next head, that might be a problem. In theory, she has even more power over Tian'er than over her own husband - or so she thinks. Still, I do not really believe that.

    I think we will be preoccupied with Bai Jiutian, to be honest. There is no one else we can trust this fight to. :)

    We never got to raise that scholarly knowledge sufficiently. :(

    We are more of an impromptu guy.
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Most probably Zhang Minyue.
     
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  17. Nevill Arcane

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    The problem with Xuezi and the Twins is that the girls have no idea who she is and will have trust issues, at least initially. Still, if the Child Immortal is any good at this, it should become apparent to them sooner rather than later. Her temper and lack of tact would still be an issue, though I hope the girls would be able to see past that. They are brighter than their own parents give them credit for.

    ...I don't suppose we can ask Xuezi if she ever done this before?
     
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  18. Jester Arbiter

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    He probably is still training under the Lu... emm Xue.
     
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  19. Nevill Arcane

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    treave, what are the rules of the match? Why are there 3 duelists? Is teamwork involved besides the obvious tactician-duelist relationship? Are the duels happening simultaneously? Are those 3 x (1 vs 1) duels, or is it a (3 vs 3) team match? What are the winning conditions?

    Do consider that no one freed us from being the representative of Emei, not until the sword is delivered to the Emperor. It would have been yet another dickish move towards them and Yifang who have vouched for us.

    Choices and consequences.
     
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  20. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire
    B - D II, III, VIII > I T - X > I
     
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  21. Nevill Arcane

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    I guess I will go with B - D I, II, III; T X

    I don't know if Song Lingshu would cut it. With Jiutian and Wuxing as our opponents, we are lacking in sword skill even with Jing on the team. Miss Song has her legendary sword and qinggong going for her, but her actual skill with a blade is not that greate.

    The most likely match-ups would be Wuxing vs Jing, and Tian're + Minue vs the sisters. I believe we are equally matched with Wuxing, Bai is more experienced that the Twins, while Minyue is less so. Now, does Bai want them to win or not, that is a question.
     
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  22. Absinthe Arcane

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    C - 3v3 of weiqi matches > B Duelists - Twins, Armaiti; Tactician - Jing

    Cao'er gonna crush some heads. Treave, is the 3v3 of weiqi acceptable?

    Low skill is fine. That's what the tactician is for, and Song Lingshu should be a quick learner with the Jueshi Wugong Sword Song and Chixiao Sword.
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    B- Xuezi as tactician +Team Fire.
     
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  24. Elfberserker Liturgist

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    That went better than I expected!

    I am no tactican, but I feel compelled to note few things that have not been mentioned:

    -WSQ teamwork boost with Yunzi.
    - Justice girlsYifang and Miss Song should at laest have decent teamwork, since they seems to be best buddies.
    -We have two legendary blades and they should be not understimed.
    - Our tactician probably knows pretty well our Xu Jing and harem techniques due to long time we have travelled together...Unless You want to put one of the twins in the helm.
    - Orthodox buddies should be fine with dueling since it doesn't seem to be deathmatch.
    - We can probably troll them enought to at laest distrupt their teamwork enought.
    -Yunzi and Armaiti should have good teamwork.

    These are just little bits that came to mind.
     
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  25. Jester Arbiter

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    Will add some possibilities.
    Although not sure if i got rules right. We have to say things like jump up, kick to left, all do back flip? Would use general orders like 'stop BJ?' 'buy time' 'stop those two' against the rules? I assume we can use them.

    In that case i see 4 possible candidates for Tactician:

    Jing - Who have much experience with working with and against different styles. Has nasty habit of tricking/trolling enemies, getting ideas for some new trick each time, but usually do it directly so people might let their guard down (if not there will be pressure 'what he is up to again?'). Above average intelligence (8 or 9 not sure if neigong bonus is added already) focused on martial arts with good perception to keep up with what's going on. Unorthodox in everything he does, but he learned one or two orthodox techs to. He might have problem with coping with leading orthodox minded people, still his ability to read and manipulate people should help there. Manipulation of both sides is his game.

    Cao - With her stats in Int and Per she probably will see whole situation in slow motion, from either angle and as many times she likes. She should be able to see through most tactical plans of enemy, but she dont have experience with martial arts so she might be blind sided there (dunno what she learned in Emei to). Although she have experience with deciphering all kind of techs from tiger martial arts, observed many high level fights even master level and she knows when to act. Problems with communication is possible. Logical decisions and information gathering so i expect Sun Tzu style of leadership.

    Xuezi - Knows lots of techs, formations and god knows what so she shouldn't be caught off guard by anything. I am concerned with her ability to lead i really doubt she was part of any team. She probably is used to ordering people around so there is that to look when choosing Duelists. Other problem is i am not sure how well she would react to anything unknown to her and i think its likely she would fall to bait and switch tactic. Use tech she recognise to make her think she knows whats will happened instead do something slightly different. So she is most experienced fighter, but not sure if leader.

    Qilin - As creative as Jing, she knows how to catch people off guard, good at controlling people. From my point of view she actually could work quite well as leader, but rather not in direct control of fighters and i expect Madam is able to outclass her in this challenge.

    possible team compositions

    1)Tactican Xu Jing
    Duellists II and III , VII/VIII/IX

    2)Tactician Cao'er
    Duelists I, VI, VII

    3)Tactician Xuezi
    Duelist I, VI, VIII

    1)
    We must take into consideration how well duellists work with each other and strategist.

    II and III as base - Sisters are experienced with such duel and should be able to work well together.

    We need someone who will be able to work with them.

    VII - Armaiti has much experience fighting in team, is strong enough to be challenge to even BJ and i think she has good techs to support others. Although she is a bit unorthodox, but should be able to fit.
    IX - Yifang is experienced in teamwork from time in castration squad, orthodox to fault and i doubt she would have any problems with following orders. She should be able to work with Nie Sisters well. She isnt to creative, but Jings ideas could solve this. And she tends to do things by the book, so she should keep up well as long as she has orders.
    VIII - similar to Yifang.

    2) If we can use general orders, or no one clarify how orders must be stated
    I think they shouldnt have problems with teamwork. They are skilled at improvising so should be good with simple orders leaving them room to work with.

    3)
    People who are good at working together and shouldnt have any issue with way Xuezi will be ordering them. Nie sisters probably wont be able to cope with her.
     
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