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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Azira Arcane Patron

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    B1

    Seems immortals can indeed get offspring. I wonder if it is in rougly the same way the Gieloth do it? If Zeus is a master as some have stipulated, then he would certainly know, but perhaps Sekhenun knows as well.

    I think it'd be a mistake to let these sniveling runts flee. Cut, maim and burn. But keep something of them. We are developing a hunger, and these two seem a fitting meal, but best kept for some time where we're alone. :salute:
     
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  2. newcomer Learned

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    Eating immortals would be a bad idea... what if one of the voices get stuck in the limb we cut & sends a desperate warning telepathy to the other immortals / master?

    At any rate, remember that we got this hunger by eating the voices.. I believe you guys know better than me how DEVOUR SOULS ends up..

    Oh btw, +1 for the cute tsundere waifu. I wonder who is the Akkaddian king she mentions... could it be Ean?
     
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  3. Esquilax Arcane

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    Forget interrogation, I don't care about the motivations of the Greeks right now - we're here to get the Egyptians on our side and the Babylonians to defect. Our objective is to defeat Ares, let's not get sidetracked.

    We know from Greek myths that Ares is savage and bloodthirsty, but not really much of a tactician; he isn't like Athena. Furthermore, we're at Tjaru and we have the advantage of being on defense. Provoking Ares into making stupid decisions sounds like a great first move for this battle. Taking away Phobos' and Deimos' advantage in the battle is another one.

    And a big "Fuck no" to feeding. We've barely even started the battle and you guys are already voting DEVOUR SOUL!!!

    A2

    Edit: The choices that I see working are A1 and B2. The other choices are disastrous. A2 is bad because it offers mercy to Immortals that will take advantage of us - then we have to fight Ares and his sons without a power boost. B1 is a complete disaster because we know our hunger is related to the manner in which we eat:

    If we give into our hunger after cutting off the heads of Ares' sons, we'll be much more prone to our violent rages and unable to control ourselves. B1 is terrible.
     
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  4. Arpad Educated

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    B2 - Let's take those two out of the fight, but let's NOT keep feeding recklessly.

    Actually, I'd like to go for A2 if that has the same number or more votes at the end of the tally than B2. Otherwise, B2.
     
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  6. ScubaV Prophet

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    I definitely want to test our palate on some tasty immortal, but I could be convinced to save it for Ares. Leaning towards B1, but I could go B2, let's see what others think.
     
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  7. Baltika9 Arcane

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    B2. Fuck 'em. Our lovely little waifu may be watching. Besides, they are not worthy of DEVOUR SOUL!!!
     
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  8. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    I'll vote A1 if we can interrogate, B1 if not. Also seems this anger has its uses after all. Great update.

    I mostly agree with Storyfag, these shits just aren't worth killing, they are however worth a snack. Also let's interrogate them as much as we can. We still have no idea what the hell is going on in the area, we're in the dark just as much as we were back when we awoke from our slumber in Minos' maze.

    No reason we shouldn't snack, we haven't eaten in a while and we need to keep it up so our powers do not decline.
     
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  9. Esquilax Arcane

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    To be honest, I'm not sure what we'd interrogate them about. Ares would probably know more about this stuff regardless, Phobos and Deimos are just underlings. We've already got an idea of why the Greek Immortals have decided to attack Egypt - it's because they allied with Crete when Minos was around:

    Then, because the Pharaoh realized he was in really deep shit and Mehrune was in Babylon, Sekhenun managed to organize an alliance with their enemy Marduk, pissing off the Greek pantheon even more:

     
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  10. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    A - both choices might work to draw Ares to us, but I feel that A is better. Send them back to daddy in disgrace - that will anger him nicely and make him reconsider his assault at Memphis. Cut this two jokers up real nice and they will not be in any shape to help him against us. Their powers worry me even less - not only are we are immune to them, but they can't control who they are targeting, making them an even greater liability to their side then they are a danger to our. So show them what fear really is and send them packing (minus a limb or two). B I fear would be going too far - we want Ares embarrassed, intrigued and possibly pissed off, not berserk and out for our blood. I fear that B would eventually force us to use our single dose of toxin on him just to stop him.

    Plus, A choice might leave him with an impression that we plan to fight this war honorably - we can dispel that illusion later if we we get a chance. Also, interrogation! Where is Ares? What are his forces? What are his plans? This is what really matters. If it wasn't so impractical (we would have to keep a constant watch over them to prevent them from using their powers), I would suggest taking these two as hostages instead of letting them go. See if daddy is willing to negotiate for their lives - might even pack his stuff and leave Egypt altogether. Very tempting indeed - why isn't this a choice?

    2 - say no to devour soul until it is absolutely necessary. And even if it is, we definitely shouldn't experiment with immortal flesh if we have a choice.

    Edit: Another important question for possible interrogation - what powers does Ares have? And with our telepathy we can be sure they are not lying or hiding something. Really, just killing these two seams like a waste.

    Edit2: Also, let's ask these fuckers what they know about Zeus if we get a chance - what powers does he have? Is he drawing Marduk into a trap or is he really too weak to face him? How many immortals does he have on his side and what are their powers? How many of them are in Egypt? As sons of his most badass general, there is a great deal they can tell us.
     
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  11. ScubaV Prophet

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    You guys seem to be conflating our hunger with root's devour soul (half-jokingly I'm sure), but remember treave and root are two different LP'ers. I'm sure the hunger has its consequences, but so far that has pretty much only manifested when we let our anger take control, which is a separate issue. It's been two months since we freed Babylon and the last time we fed was on Nusku some time before that. I think we're doing okay so far. The main issue I see is if/when we enter a period of relative peace. Is feeding on criminals and bandits going to be enough then? Thankfully, (or not depending on how you see it) I don't see a shortage of adversaries any time soon.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave: random question bro. Is Shulgi still in the game?
    Zero Credibility: Why not just mine their brains for every possible bit of data and then kill them? Letting them live is also dangerous.
    Edit: OR fry their brains and fling their motionless bodies at Ares.
     
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  15. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Something to consider. Do the sons of immortals also have the voices, or are they separate from them, similar in nature to us?
     
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  16. Esquilax Arcane

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    treave, I think I misunderstood something. A involves remaining at Tjaru to draw out Ares, while B involves taunting him at Memphis by bringing him Deimos' and Phobos' heads personally, right? B would likely result in a duel against a god of war with only one arm, which is... not ideal. Even with a power-boost provided by two piss-weak immortals, I'd rather not take Ares head-on if I can avoid it.

    Rage, by definition, is almost impossible to control, that's the problem. We dodged a few bullets with Sekhenun in Babylon - first by saving Gudersu's family, and second by still being able to control ourselves when we confronted her about lying. Remember that if we hadn't volunteered ourselves, we would have fed on Sekhenun regardless. If we make a few poor choices in the future, we may not really have a choice in how and when our anger explodes.

    With A1, I suppose the rage issues would be manageable since we let the twins live, but B1 would cause a shitload of consequences.

    Nusku was only a few days before we freed Babylon.

    Edit: The more I think about it, the more I realize that coming into Tjaru was a bad idea. We have to babysit Iltani and make sure she doesn't get killed, and now we're going to reveal ourselves to Ares regardless of what we do. The symbolic power of Tjaru is nice and all, but if we just decided to go on our merry way towards Memphis instead of getting distracted by a trip down memory lane, we would have been able to maintain the element of surprise against Ares and get Iltani to safety.
     
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  17. ScubaV Prophet

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    Obviously treave can clarify, but I get the impression we are leaving Tjaru with either A or B. You do make compelling arguments Esquilax. A2 would potentially reign in both our hunger and anger. Control is almost always good. I think A sacrifices the element of surprise in favor of possibly saving more Egyptians. Is that trade worth it? Regardless, I'm going to vote to eat Ares if we get the chance. I want to know what eating immortals does and the power boost should be considerable.
     
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  18. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    I don't think eating gives us any powers. From what Sekhenun told us, the only thing eating does is prevent power degeneration - all those Gieloths we ate didn't provide us with anything concrete. It might be different if we eat an immortal, but I doubt it will be. Which is why it is important to find other ways of acquiring power - more soldiers, more knowledge, maybe more artifacts we can use - we can no longer depend on power level-ups from defeating our enemies.

    treave: Choice A does mean we still get to interrogate these whelps before letting them go, right?
     
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  19. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Guise, I was thinking... Phobos and Deimos are immortal, right? So cutting their heads off and keeping them in a bag doesn't really mean we kill them. We get to carry them around and ask them questions forever! Provided we leave their lungs intact too, that is. Willing to flop to B on that note.
     
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  20. ScubaV Prophet

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    Feeding definitely boosts our powers, how else did we go from a wimp just after resurrection to rivaling Marduk? treave, whatever happened to the statuette mentioned in the update I quoted? Did Sekhenun finish her tests?

    I've decided my vote will be A2. As Zero Credibility said, the brothers shouldn't be too much trouble to us alive and the chance of saving more Egyptians is basically half our goal here anyway. It will also hopefully give us more control over our anger. And as weak as they are I don't think they'd give us much of a power boost by eating them, so building on the hunger restraint we started with Ramman and Ahati would be worthwhile. Our anger and hunger are extremely powerful tools, but only if we can decide how and when to use them.

    Since treave said a straight up duel with Marduk is winnable I don't think facing Ares (even minus an arm and him having two beat-up sons and advance warning) will be that risky.
     
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  21. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    We already had those powers - all feeding did was restore us to the pre-Tjaru power level (when Ean was at his peak). Even though we defeated and have eaten several Gieloths, we have acquired no new powers whatsoever. So feeding again at this point will not provide anything new (at least until the hunger begins weakening our powers again).

    At least that is how I understood Sekhenun's explanation - maybe treave can clarify on that.
     
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  22. Baltika9 Arcane

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    How about this: we interrogate them, fry their minds and take them "along"? And then fling their motionless bodies at Ares when we meet him? Technically, they're still alive. And that would be the best time to put on our smugface.
     
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  23. Esquilax Arcane

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    Storyfag: Sorry bro, that sounds completely ridiculous. These guys aren't the walking encyclopedia that Sekhenun is, they aren't worth shit. Besides, Ean's telepathy probably his second best skill next to ass-kicking - I am pretty sure that he can find out anything he needs to know from them about Ares that way.

    I'm contemplating flopping back to B2.

    They may not be much of a threat on their own, but I think the twins' skills synergize really well with Ares'. They cause panic in human ranks, while Ares protects them from any physical harm from other Immortals/Gieloth with his skills. Even though the twins can't control who they target, they wouldn't even need their own soldiers backing them up if Ares is with them.

    Here's a little bit of info on Ares from the Wiki:

    In a hypothetical attack, unless our soldiers were insanely brave and had superb morale, they'd break ranks and we'd have to deal with all three of them on our own. However, if we kill the twins, we can get our warriors to swarm an enraged and reckless Ares.

    Why wouldn't we want him out for our blood? Ares is already reckless, pushing him over the edge seems like a smart tactical move, The man wants us dead anyways, we may as well use our position as the defender in Memphis to provoke him into making stupid decisions (i.e. charging into the 5,000 men there with us hidden among them).

    This is great stuff, but then why not just kill them anyways? We're a psychic blank with good telepathic skills, we could do it.
     
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  24. Bloodshifter Educated

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    A1 no need to kill immortals... yet Deimos and Phobos can act as a distraction to Ares wouldn't you stop attacking if someone who can kick your kids ass is heading for your head? and decide to snack on one as a treat?

    also +1 for Interrogation
     
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  25. Zero Credibility Arcane

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    Even better. We can turn that situation on him - if he uses them to neutralize our soldiers, it basically becomes a duel between us - his soldiers will be useless as well, and we can cripple his sons so that they will be useless in physical combat (after all, it will take us 6 months to grow an arm). Except, now he would have two liabilities to protect in a duel with us - something we can very easily turn against him. No, he will not risk this - he will send them back to Greece on the first ship.

    Because once we do that we are committed to killing him - there will be no turning back. If we let his sons live we can maybe just neutralize his army and force him to retreat, get him to surrender or deal with him some other way. But if we do this he is then our mortal enemy for life (along with who knows how many of his immortal friends) - and for an immortal that is a very long time (because unless we spend our single dose of toxin on him, he will come back for us eventually even if we defeat him). His sons are no real threat to us - so why antagonize him even more then necessary at this point? Our target is not Ares, it's Zeus.

    Edit: One more thing - if we push him over the edge he might just decide to take out his anger on the Egyptians. I don't think it counts as a victory for us if we kill him, but the country is burned to the ground and everyone is dead.

    We probably could, yes. But I still think a careful show of mercy once we extracted what we need to know would be a better choice. We can't permanently kill all immortals (at least not yet), so they will just keep coming after us time and time again. We really should not make more enemies then absolutely necessary among other immortals. Think about the paranoia Shulgi is creating now, and we haven't even seen him in 400 years - now imagine more immortals actually coming after us.
     
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