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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Fuck going to China.

    A or C sound good. Will hear the arguments.
     
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  2. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Note that B doesn't mean going to China. It merely means preparing a route should we need to go there.
     
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  3. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Heading east should be our lowest priority. We have plenty on our platter already.
     
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  4. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Still, it doesn't hurt to be prepared for the inevitable moment when heading east will become our top priority.

    B
     
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  5. Esquilax Arcane

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    Internal affairs at a time like this? Abso-fucking-lutely not, that's burying our heads in the sand. Our takeover of Hittite lands will awe the Hittites and Assyrians into doing what they're told for quite some time. If there is a threat of unrest among the Hittites or Assyrians, that's what we have a spy network for. Any potential agitators or rebel leaders are going to find themselves mysteriously disappearing rather quickly.

    That leaves either A or B. We've opted to stay here, so I think we should be consistent with that.

    Goddamnit, now I'm regretting investing in education. Perhaps we should have invested in a better navy, then we wouldn't have to worry about scouting all these routes.

    A
     
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  6. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Indeed, we will have to go to China, sooner or later. Ignoring it would be stupid, as either the Gieloth will suck the planet dry, or the Immortals will become too powerful and too much of a potential threat to Ean and his agenda.

    However, so is ignoring the Terrasphagos. Their timing seemed oddly, well, timely. I would like to know why exactly they attacked when Ean was distracted: pure coincidence, or something more? They already demonstrated cunning and the ability to break through the Olympian garrison, so having them pop out en masse while we're off gallivanting in the Orient would be A Bad Thing.
     
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  7. treave Arcane Patron

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    Unfortunately sea travel would have posed the just-as-big problem of scouting ports of call to resupply in, unless you do it incrementally, building ports and establishing colonies at every place you stop, to prepare for an easier path for your warships later. When I said that you guys underestimate the difficulty of getting to China with Bronze Age technology... well... you can do it the quick way, and go with just Artemis, or do it the slow way and gradually build up a route there, spreading bit by bit. Option B in this update will attempt to make the slow way faster.

    Regarding Ean worship - he's just one of many other gods in the religion but lately has become very prominent because, well, the other gods aren't walking around.
     
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  8. oscar Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I'd say closing this demon-spewing armageddon rift on our western border and stabilising the empire will be bare minimum prerequisites for any (IMO foolish. Are we just going to rock up to China and be like "sup guys there's these bad dudes watch out for them") eastern expedition. Plus us departing in any strength to the east just screams "invade me" to the northerners or Murphy's Law will spawn a huge Terrasphagos army to rampage through the empire.

    Going to have to go with A here. The sooner we deal with this rift the better, before it starts spawning even worse monsters.
     
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  9. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Has Sekhenun made any progress with Minos' bull statuette? Like, say, breaking an Immortal's dependence on the voices and Masters?
     
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  10. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I'm with Sekh, Athena and Artemis here. We need to research that rift to better combat the threat it poses.
    Remember, people have gone in, but none returned. So far. At least in any recognisable form. That doesn't mean, however, that Zeus/Marduk and Hera, Ares or whatever the last Gieloth lieutenant was called, aren't still alive. Maybe one/some of them are orchestrating the Terasphagos. Wouldn't it be lovely if Marduk got a new army that way? :M

    My vote is A
     
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  11. newcomer Learned

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    The only thing we've been neglecting so far is our PRESTIGIOUS BREEDING PROGRAM :obviously:

    An army is most likely useless against an angry mob of tentacles, so we don't need B. A is it.

    Who's Lubarna by the way? The king's name?

    And who will be the vassal king of Anatolia? And we need to make sure every kings / queens and their bratlings see the Terasphagos with their own eyes
     
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  12. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Seems like A would be a good offset to the disadvantages of our previous vote, although I do really dislike forgetting the inevitable threat of China.

    A
     
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  13. treave Arcane Patron

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    An artifact that would've restored your connection to dormant voices can't be used to break connections, only facilitate or strengthen it. Sekhenun has too many projects on her plate at the moment to research the statue further, and it's not something that mortals can comprehend at this time.

    edit: At this time I wonder if you guys wouldn't have liked it more if we stuck to the "Zeus fries Marduk while you talk to him" path. :lol: There would probably be less "Fuck should we go into fuck-if-I-know-where-rift or take a arduous trek all the way to fucking China" worries throughout the subsequent chapter.
     
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  14. Baltika9 Arcane

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    If I may presume a meta question: what is it about eating sentient beings that corrupts and gives EAn and the Gieloth power, since souls as such do not exist? Is it that they also absorb a part of the sentient's psyche into themselves, thus absorbing their vices? And what about virtuous humans, could they not "cleanse" the consumer, as it were?

    Could this, in fact, lead Anbar-Shi, or whoever eats too much, into a "One Of Many" state?

    Edit: And what about Panharth's knowledge, you said we were almost done processing it. Did it unlock anything interesting?

    Edit 2: is it, in fact, taht every sentient has within itself the potential for this kind of shit and the Voices are simply there to amplify the potential and keep the individuals on a leash? Like an AI/guidance system?
     
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  15. newcomer Learned

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    The test world the masters offer would be free from :mhd:. Hence, no breeding program with tentacle waifu. Clearly an inferior world :obviously:
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Another analogy; you can explain it as that of taking on the burden of more desire, or more specifically the raw desire in every living thing to live. That desire expresses itself differently in many different ways, but it exists in every thing, and in a more complex, stronger fashion in creatures with greater intelligence. For the Gieloth, it has evolved in their hunger. The 'cleanest' thing you can eat is, say, a totally perfect holy man with no desires; not for food, or sex, or love, or knowledge, or air, and even then it means that you are eating zero desires which doesn't cancel out what you had before.

    edit: Pannie's knowledge is now all fucked up because of your fucked up hungry mind. It's not like there's anything important left you can't learn from your Gieloth pals anyway. You don't want to remember a cumulative million years of bad Gieloth poetry. And you're not on the right track about the voices.

    Maybe, maybe not. It could be a world full of the tentacles they have abducted, living happily in a little world with bunnies and flowers and ever blue skies.
     
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  17. newcomer Learned

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    And there are lots of creatures that fit into this description, namely:

    :baby:

    So yeah, we'll invent a child-bearing hospital where a few babies would be constantly "missing"... Or a cult with baby-sacrificing culture? But this one will anger Athena & Artemis, unless we bring them to the dark side...

    So we'll be LPing a visual novel without the visual? And then Ean's hunger turns the entire situation into grimdarkery...
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hmmm...so, then if we eat someone with a negative desire value, as in a perfectly suicidal entity, one that genuinely wishes to die and has a desire to starve and suffocate, then it would have an opposite effect?

    Edit:
    Edit 2: In essence, if Ean devours an entropic entity, it should lower his corruption?
     
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  19. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, by the way, I thought everyone was on the same boat here? What the fuck is going on, why are there no heirs and demigods yet? Sekhenun isn't going to impregnate herself, you know.

    :rpgcodex:

    Unless my "space squids" nickname should be changed to "space corals."
     
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  20. newcomer Learned

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    Interesting... any romance poetry we can read to Sek? :incline:

    For Ean's hunger, is it possible to do this:

    Declare a human breeding program, either through baby cloning or (literally) human farm. Ean eat all the babies.

    Effectively stalls corruption until a permanent cure is found
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hmm... I think I'm starting to get the picture. What about that "eat entropic beings" thing? Will it work, assuming we can find such beings and figure out how you eat that which cannot be quantified? Also, is there a real "see the future" skill tree, or was that just handwaving. And what about Marduk? Why did he go berserk? Partied too hard, went on a binge and decided to FUBAR shit because:

    I'm not so sure. A child still desires to survive, it's main priority being "eat and grow." Besides, it may not corrupt Ean by feeding, but eating infants is some evil shit in and of itself. Just because he is not being corrupted by his food doesn't mean he can't become a cruel, heartless and fucked up human being all on his own.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    Babies want things too, feel free to speculate about what can be eaten to reduce it, and you might want to start considering that gaining power from defective voices may have defected something else.
     
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  23. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I dread to ask, but does Ean now need pounds of Viagra to reproduce? Or, more straightforward: is he impotent?
    Edit: or infertile?
     
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  24. Baltika9 Arcane

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    God, he is, isn't he?

    Damn. Guy grows up an orphan on the cruel streets of NY/LA, circa 2400BC. Does he despair? Fuck no. he learns how to fight and starts working for the personal guard of the biggest badass of his time.
    Then he gains superpowers. Does he go power-mad? Nope. Runs off to become a priest of time-traveling assholes? Nope. Dude sticks by his principles, that he developed on the streets from infancy, and loyally declines a reward from his King, asking only to serve him more.

    Does he try to subvert him? Fuck no. He goes to war under him and saves his life and the lives of his soldiers, killing an interstellar abomination along the way. Then he tells his king the truth. And when the king asks him to cut a hand off, does he decline? Kill him? Run away? Nope. He cuts his hand off for the sake of king and country.
    More than that, he defeats an entire fortress of fanatical cultists. One handed. Acting as the pincusion for enemy archers so that his men avoid casualties, while climbing up the ladder. One handed. Then his King turns on him.

    And when he takes power, does he become a power-hungry tyrant? Nope. gives his client-states a voice in policy, strengthens garrisons and diplomatic relations. When an enemy rolls into his land, made up of undead and space squids/corals, what does he do? Hide, run away? Stay at home with his harem? Nope, charges in headfirst, makes a heroic sacrifice and saves a nation. He is later forgotten.

    When an enemy lay begging at his feet, what did he do? He spared it. When he was forced to choose between conquering a nation and saving one single city, what did he choose? The city. When faced with an overwhelming opponent, maimed and at the edge of his strength, what did he do? He made a heroic sacrifice of powers vs human lives and spent the next ninety years making Egypt more secure for the citizenry. When Aphrodite tried to sway him to abandon a long-time "friend" and ally, he told her where to stick it. When down in Minos' labyrinth, he chose faith in humanity above selfish need.

    When faced with his hunger, he chose to restrain it as much as possible, rather than indulge. When he had a choice to risk his life for three children of a barbarian king, he took the risk without hesitation. With the fate of the world hanging in the balance, he risked everything to save Egypt from being raped up all three holes by Ares and drew him out to Olympus. Where he proceeded to save the world from Exterminatus.

    When he became Emperor, he did his utmost for a stable, developed and educated Empire. And what did he get in return, you ask?
    A curse of hunger that slowly devours his goodness from the inside, a sword that, every time it feeds, gets closer to becoming evil incarnate, the hatred of the Masters and a naive, young and stupid Immortal telling him that he is the Devil's older brother, only worse and uglier.
    No respect, no love, no rest and no friends, except for a Gieloth that may or may not stab him in the back/tie him down to a lab table (may or may not be to satisfy a kink) when it suits her/him/it. And constantly being the universe's favored chew-toy.
    And now, no heirs.

    His reaction? Put on a shit-eating grin, crack wise and "Carry on aye-aye, sir!", asking nothing in return but for Man to live and prosper.


    [​IMG] indeed. :salute:
     
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  25. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Because it totally doesn't mess with a human mind to eat babies. :roll:

    Ean is still basically human, even if a very resilient, long-lived and superior physcial specimen.
     
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