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I'm with Sekh, Athena and Artemis here. We need to research that rift to better combat the threat it poses.
Remember, people have gone in, but none returned. So far. At least in any recognisable form. That doesn't mean, however, that Zeus/Marduk and Hera, Ares or whatever the last Gieloth lieutenant was called, aren't still alive. Maybe one/some of them are orchestrating the Terasphagos. Wouldn't it be lovely if Marduk got a new army that way? :M

My vote is A
 

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The only thing we've been neglecting so far is our PRESTIGIOUS BREEDING PROGRAM :obviously:

An army is most likely useless against an angry mob of tentacles, so we don't need B. A is it.

Who's Lubarna by the way? The king's name?

And who will be the vassal king of Anatolia? And we need to make sure every kings / queens and their bratlings see the Terasphagos with their own eyes
 

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Seems like A would be a good offset to the disadvantages of our previous vote, although I do really dislike forgetting the inevitable threat of China.

A
 

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Has Sekhenun made any progress with Minos' bull statuette? Like, say, breaking an Immortal's dependence on the voices and Masters?

An artifact that would've restored your connection to dormant voices can't be used to break connections, only facilitate or strengthen it. Sekhenun has too many projects on her plate at the moment to research the statue further, and it's not something that mortals can comprehend at this time.

edit: At this time I wonder if you guys wouldn't have liked it more if we stuck to the "Zeus fries Marduk while you talk to him" path. :lol: There would probably be less "Fuck should we go into fuck-if-I-know-where-rift or take a arduous trek all the way to fucking China" worries throughout the subsequent chapter.
 

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Has Sekhenun made any progress with Minos' bull statuette? Like, say, breaking an Immortal's dependence on the voices and Masters?

An artifact that would've restored your connection to dormant voices can't be used to break connections, only facilitate or strengthen it. Sekhenun has too many projects on her plate at the moment to research the statue further, and it's not something that mortals can comprehend at this time.
If I may presume a meta question: what is it about eating sentient beings that corrupts and gives EAn and the Gieloth power, since souls as such do not exist? Is it that they also absorb a part of the sentient's psyche into themselves, thus absorbing their vices? And what about virtuous humans, could they not "cleanse" the consumer, as it were?

Could this, in fact, lead Anbar-Shi, or whoever eats too much, into a "One Of Many" state?

Edit: And what about Panharth's knowledge, you said we were almost done processing it. Did it unlock anything interesting?

Edit 2: is it, in fact, taht every sentient has within itself the potential for this kind of shit and the Voices are simply there to amplify the potential and keep the individuals on a leash? Like an AI/guidance system?
 

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edit: At this time I wonder if you guys wouldn't have liked it more if we stuck to the "Zeus fries Marduk while you talk to him" path. :lol: There would probably be less "Fuck should we go into fuck-if-I-know-where-rift or take a arduous trek all the way to fucking China" worries throughout the subsequent chapter.

The test world the masters offer would be free from :mhd:. Hence, no breeding program with tentacle waifu. Clearly an inferior world :obviously:
 

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If I may presume a meta question: what is it about eating sentient beings that corrupts and gives EAn and the Gieloth power, since souls as such do not exist? Is it that they also absorb a part of the sentient's psyche into themselves, thus absorbing their vices? And what about virtuous humans, could they not "cleanse" the consumer, as it were?
Could this, in fact, lead Anbar-Shi, or whoever eats too much, into a "One Of Many" state?

Another analogy; you can explain it as that of taking on the burden of more desire, or more specifically the raw desire in every living thing to live. That desire expresses itself differently in many different ways, but it exists in every thing, and in a more complex, stronger fashion in creatures with greater intelligence. For the Gieloth, it has evolved in their hunger. The 'cleanest' thing you can eat is, say, a totally perfect holy man with no desires; not for food, or sex, or love, or knowledge, or air, and even then it means that you are eating zero desires which doesn't cancel out what you had before.

edit: Pannie's knowledge is now all fucked up because of your fucked up hungry mind. It's not like there's anything important left you can't learn from your Gieloth pals anyway. You don't want to remember a cumulative million years of bad Gieloth poetry. And you're not on the right track about the voices.

The test world the masters offer would be free from :mhd:. Hence, no breeding program with tentacle waifu. Clearly an inferior world :obviously:

Maybe, maybe not. It could be a world full of the tentacles they have abducted, living happily in a little world with bunnies and flowers and ever blue skies.
 

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Another analogy; you can explain it as that of taking on the burden of more desire, or more specifically the raw desire in every living thing to live. That desire expresses itself differently in many different ways, but it exists in every thing, and in a more complex, stronger fashion in creatures with greater intelligence. For the Gieloth, it has evolved in their hunger. The 'cleanest' thing you can eat is, say, a totally perfect holy man with no desires; not for food, or sex, or love, or knowledge, or air, and even then it means that you are eating zero desires which doesn't cancel out what you had before.


And there are lots of creatures that fit into this description, namely:

:baby:

So yeah, we'll invent a child-bearing hospital where a few babies would be constantly "missing"... Or a cult with baby-sacrificing culture? But this one will anger Athena & Artemis, unless we bring them to the dark side...

Maybe, maybe not. It could be a world full of the tentacles they have abducted, living happily in a little world with bunnies and flowers and ever blue skies.

So we'll be LPing a visual novel without the visual? And then Ean's hunger turns the entire situation into grimdarkery...
 

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The 'cleanest' thing you can eat is, say, a totally perfect holy man with no desires; not for food, or sex, or love, or knowledge, or air, and even then it means that you are eating zero desires which doesn't cancel out what you had before.
Hmmm...so, then if we eat someone with a negative desire value, as in a perfectly suicidal entity, one that genuinely wishes to die and has a desire to starve and suffocate, then it would have an opposite effect?

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Edit: And what about Panharth's knowledge, you said we were almost done processing it. Did it unlock anything interesting?

Edit 2: is it, in fact, taht every sentient has within itself the potential for this kind of shit and the Voices are simply there to amplify the potential and keep the individuals on a leash? Like an AI/guidance system?

Edit 2: In essence, if Ean devours an entropic entity, it should lower his corruption?
 

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The only thing we've been neglecting so far is our PRESTIGIOUS BREEDING PROGRAM :obviously:

Yeah, by the way, I thought everyone was on the same boat here? What the fuck is going on, why are there no heirs and demigods yet? Sekhenun isn't going to impregnate herself, you know.

:rpgcodex:

Unless my "space squids" nickname should be changed to "space corals."
 

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edit: Pannie's knowledge is now all fucked up because of your fucked up hungry mind. It's not like there's anything important left you can't learn from your Gieloth pals anyway. You don't want to remember a cumulative million years of bad Gieloth poetry. And you're not on the right track about the voices.

Interesting... any romance poetry we can read to Sek? :incline:

For Ean's hunger, is it possible to do this:

Declare a human breeding program, either through baby cloning or (literally) human farm. Ean eat all the babies.

Effectively stalls corruption until a permanent cure is found
 

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And you're not on the right track about the voices.
Hmm... I think I'm starting to get the picture. What about that "eat entropic beings" thing? Will it work, assuming we can find such beings and figure out how you eat that which cannot be quantified? Also, is there a real "see the future" skill tree, or was that just handwaving. And what about Marduk? Why did he go berserk? Partied too hard, went on a binge and decided to FUBAR shit because:

Declare a human breeding program, either through baby cloning or (literally) human farm. Ean eat all the babies.

Effectively stalls corruption until a permanent cure is found

I'm not so sure. A child still desires to survive, it's main priority being "eat and grow." Besides, it may not corrupt Ean by feeding, but eating infants is some evil shit in and of itself. Just because he is not being corrupted by his food doesn't mean he can't become a cruel, heartless and fucked up human being all on his own.
 

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Babies want things too, feel free to speculate about what can be eaten to reduce it, and you might want to start considering that gaining power from defective voices may have defected something else.
 

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Babies want things too, feel free to speculate about what can be eaten to reduce it, and you might want to start considering that gaining power from defective voices may have defected something else.
I dread to ask, but does Ean now need pounds of Viagra to reproduce? Or, more straightforward: is he impotent?
Edit: or infertile?
 

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God, he is, isn't he?

Damn. Guy grows up an orphan on the cruel streets of NY/LA, circa 2400BC. Does he despair? Fuck no. he learns how to fight and starts working for the personal guard of the biggest badass of his time.
Then he gains superpowers. Does he go power-mad? Nope. Runs off to become a priest of time-traveling assholes? Nope. Dude sticks by his principles, that he developed on the streets from infancy, and loyally declines a reward from his King, asking only to serve him more.

Does he try to subvert him? Fuck no. He goes to war under him and saves his life and the lives of his soldiers, killing an interstellar abomination along the way. Then he tells his king the truth. And when the king asks him to cut a hand off, does he decline? Kill him? Run away? Nope. He cuts his hand off for the sake of king and country.
More than that, he defeats an entire fortress of fanatical cultists. One handed. Acting as the pincusion for enemy archers so that his men avoid casualties, while climbing up the ladder. One handed. Then his King turns on him.

And when he takes power, does he become a power-hungry tyrant? Nope. gives his client-states a voice in policy, strengthens garrisons and diplomatic relations. When an enemy rolls into his land, made up of undead and space squids/corals, what does he do? Hide, run away? Stay at home with his harem? Nope, charges in headfirst, makes a heroic sacrifice and saves a nation. He is later forgotten.

When an enemy lay begging at his feet, what did he do? He spared it. When he was forced to choose between conquering a nation and saving one single city, what did he choose? The city. When faced with an overwhelming opponent, maimed and at the edge of his strength, what did he do? He made a heroic sacrifice of powers vs human lives and spent the next ninety years making Egypt more secure for the citizenry. When Aphrodite tried to sway him to abandon a long-time "friend" and ally, he told her where to stick it. When down in Minos' labyrinth, he chose faith in humanity above selfish need.

When faced with his hunger, he chose to restrain it as much as possible, rather than indulge. When he had a choice to risk his life for three children of a barbarian king, he took the risk without hesitation. With the fate of the world hanging in the balance, he risked everything to save Egypt from being raped up all three holes by Ares and drew him out to Olympus. Where he proceeded to save the world from Exterminatus.

When he became Emperor, he did his utmost for a stable, developed and educated Empire. And what did he get in return, you ask?
A curse of hunger that slowly devours his goodness from the inside, a sword that, every time it feeds, gets closer to becoming evil incarnate, the hatred of the Masters and a naive, young and stupid Immortal telling him that he is the Devil's older brother, only worse and uglier.
No respect, no love, no rest and no friends, except for a Gieloth that may or may not stab him in the back/tie him down to a lab table (may or may not be to satisfy a kink) when it suits her/him/it. And constantly being the universe's favored chew-toy.
And now, no heirs.

His reaction? Put on a shit-eating grin, crack wise and "Carry on aye-aye, sir!", asking nothing in return but for Man to live and prosper.


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indeed. :salute:
 

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edit: Pannie's knowledge is now all fucked up because of your fucked up hungry mind. It's not like there's anything important left you can't learn from your Gieloth pals anyway. You don't want to remember a cumulative million years of bad Gieloth poetry. And you're not on the right track about the voices.

Interesting... any romance poetry we can read to Sek? :incline:

For Ean's hunger, is it possible to do this:

Declare a human breeding program, either through baby cloning or (literally) human farm. Ean eat all the babies.

Effectively stalls corruption until a permanent cure is found

Because it totally doesn't mess with a human mind to eat babies. :roll:

Ean is still basically human, even if a very resilient, long-lived and superior physcial specimen.
 

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A, most sensible choice without overexerting and overextending ourselves (B) or more passive (C).

Option B is very impractical since no way in hell can we just intervene in China, we have to cross Central Asia and contend not only with the nomads (Parthian shot anyone?) but also with the aboriginal non-Han barbarian peoples (ie. Rong, Yue) around the perimeter of what we view as Sinic civilizations. Especially as what we know as China (as defined by the Han ethnicity) is just concentrated around the upper banks of the Yellow river. We simply don't have advanced logistics to fight nomads (via China's Northwest) or cross the Himalayas (via China's Northwest).

Option C does not strike me as something that Ean would do since he is a man of action, we can commission someone much more suited to the cloak-and-dagger business (Sek and Edem) to investigate within the empire.
 

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Great summary Baltika9, would brofist if I could. It seems poor Ean has been dealt a rough hand from life, you know, apart from being an immortal god emperor.
 

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Great summary Baltika9, would brofist if I could. It seems poor Ean has been dealt a rough hand from life, you know, apart from being an immortal god emperor.
And the punchline is, even that gets him shat on by everyone else. Not that it stops him from being the #1 troll in existence. So I guess he wins in the end.

Edit: shat on by the people that actually matter in the long run, not the short-lived mortals whose Big Brother he will end up as.
 

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What actually satisfies Ean's hunger? Since you're talking about purity and stuff, is it possible for Ean to satisfy his hunger by eating synthetic human meat engineered using high-tech equipments, stem cells, blah2? And obviously synthetic meat has no desire right?

Edit: Regarding China, according to Wikipedia we still have ~390 years before Shang wins. That is assuming everything else goes according to history...
 

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What actually satisfies Ean's hunger? Since you're talking about purity and stuff, is it possible for Ean to satisfy his hunger by eating synthetic human meat engineered using high-tech equipments, stem cells, blah2? And obviously synthetic meat has no desire right?


The cells that make up the synthetic meat have, or had, a desire to be alive.

Now if you still want a serious explanation, it's going to be in PMs, and to be fair to the others that means you should not vote on anything related to the hunger concept after this. Same applies to all the other stuff. I don't mind sharing the ideas I've laid out for the LP, but there has to be some place where I put my foot down about doing all this in the public thread. There's already plenty of information out there, both in the meta posts and in the updates and some people have used that information to make very astute guesses as to what may come.
 

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The cells that make up the synthetic meat have, or had, a desire to be alive.

Now if you still want a serious explanation, it's going to be in PMs, and to be fair to the others that means you should not vote on anything related to the hunger concept after this. Same applies to all the other stuff. I don't mind sharing the ideas I've laid out for the LP, but there has to be some place where I put my foot down. There's already plenty of information out there, both in the meta posts and in the updates.

Nah, there's no need for me to rush the story & go that far. But thx for that. This is quite difficult...
 

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Jumping on the A bandwagon.
 

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