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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    I know we went completely into alternate history territory, but I'd still like a BCE date. If only for the purpose of comparison.

    This... this we have to overcome somehow. Truth be told, I think I'd prefer the citizens to identify with their cities first, and their kingdoms second, than with the kingdoms first and empire second.
    Edit: What language does our talented scholar school use? This one will gradually become the ligua franca we need - but we'll have to carefully encourage it. We must also make sure to have the nobility spend at least a few years in this school of ours. Where is it located, by the way?

    This is good. Very good. Empires are founded and maintained through the love of the military to their leader. Maybe we should introduce compulsory (but not too long!) military service in order to better utilise the unifying factor the military provides? At least the important people - nobles and royalty - tend to serve in the army, so they will be comfortably indoctrinated.
     
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  2. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I see what you did there. :martini:
     
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  3. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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  4. newcomer Learned

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    Triple A bandwagon
     
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  5. Kipeci Magister

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    Where is the good in 3A? There's too much risk, and as the Empire's only true uniting figure, if something happened to us (the filter has failed more often than worked) then all of our work falls apart so that we can be somewhat more bro-ish with the scouts.
     
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  6. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    A - How are the fortifications btw? One wall around the rift or multiple walls? Building multiple layers of walls around the rift would lower the casualties as our soldiers can hold one wall and retreat behind another before it is overrun.

    B - If we are going to the rift anytime soon we shouldn't let them in. They are too secretive and they provide only gear for 100 soldiers per year.

    A - We should definitely go. Not sure about bringing the Vajra with us though.

    And I think focusing to the empire and the rift instead of China is a bad move.
     
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  7. newcomer Learned

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    You said that the military is divided into 5 armies, but there's only 4 regiments: north, south, east, west. Where is the 5th? Or is it the watchers?
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    Probably about 1865 B.C.? The last time I gave a year was around 1890 B.C.

    Babylonian, and each scholar is required to learn some Egyptian and also the language of their homeland, in addition to that. It's in Babylon for now. I'm thinking of giving you guys the option to build a capital soon, if you don't screw up before that.

    You don't have a full wall around the rift right now, given that you've been driven back further. Even your former fortifications were a mixture of low and high walls and some empty spaces monitored by outposts due to the difficulty of building walls around where an entire mountain used to be in just a few years while also under attack from monsters.It's even harder to build proper walls that fully encircle the current area given the technology, type of terrain and sheer area involved. You have walls where feasible, fences where they're not, regular patrols, and heavily manned outposts at natural chokepoints.

    I was toying with the idea of allowing the Olympus garrison to be their own army, but decided against it because there really isn't much else to defend against in the west. My mistake. Thanks for spotting it.
     
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  9. Esquilax Arcane

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    The way I see it, if we're able to find out exactly where within the miasma that the rift lies, we can better anticipate the possible paths that the Terasphagos take to reach us. It's going to make reading them a lot easier - the area covered by the miasma is huge, so if we're able to pinpoint the exact location they're emerging from, we can set up fortifications accordingly. Also, we are going to have to go through the rift at some point in the near future, so it would be wise to map out a path to it during a period of relative inactivity, as opposed to a time when the fucking things are going crazy.

    Sending in regular scouts might not work out because of the issue of time. Our scouts are far more vulnerable than Ean is, so it'll take a lot longer for them to find the rift - there's going to be a lot of trial-and-error (i.e. dead scouts) before they succeed. However, at that point, Terasphagos activity might increase again before they're able to figure out where the rift is.

    The filter hasn't failed more often than it has worked; it's been used only once in battle, and so far it's been successful. The reason only one scout made it wasn't because of a fault in the filter, it was probably because all of his buddies got chewed up.

    Sure, one success isn't exactly a ringing endorsement, but there's nothing to show that Sekhenun's filter is defective either.

    My reasoning behind 1A is to have some kind of insurance for the expedition. If we station our men closer to the miasma, that means that the expedition can fall back to the fortifications should they become overwhelmed. I'm not too fond of bringing our men so close to the miasma again (1B is certainly strategically optimal) but if we're sending an expedition, we need people close by in case we're in trouble.

    I will say that having elite royal guards would have been beneficial for the expedition. But then again, we wouldn't be able to spy on the Northern Kingdom's steel artisans, so there's tradeoffs no matter what.

    This is a serious concern. Zeus created this rift by mustering the power of two Vajra pieces, so our single piece is bound to react to the rift in some way. Worst case scenario, we end up on the other side of that rift without our army to back us up.
     
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  10. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, okay. Let's see how my theory of bandwagoning holds up...

    AAA

    Bring Vajra with us, it will react with the other pieces and help us to figure out where they might be. I'm just hoping Zeus or Marduk isn't still alive.

    We do however need a regent. I'd tentatively suggest Athena, the Pharaoh or the Babylonian King. Perhaps see if we can marry Athena and give her legitimacy as Empress?
     
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  11. Baltika9 Arcane

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    A- the smart move. Even if we didn't go in, leaving the ground empty for future Terasphagos invasions would just give them more ground to maneuver.
    B- below.
    A- We'd better get this shit over with and fast. Something's going to happen in China soon, and I'd rather we could devote our full attention to them, whatever we're going to do.
    treave: two quick questions. Anything interesting messages over Gieloth communications and does Sekhenun ahve her own divine cult of SCIENCE?

    About the Northerner: That whole soft power and spies Esquilax was talking about? Putting a secretive order of holy blacksmiths together with extremely inquisitive investigators will mean that the two will clash somewhere, somehow. Best case scenario: the spies demand entry. Worst case: they are caught in one of the forges. And that will mean a national diplomatic incident, which may lead Egil to declare war.
    On an Empire that is only united by an Emperor. Whose Emperor is off world-hopping in unknown dimensions. And the denizens of these realms are rather unwelcoming. Also, Smashing Axe, yes, Zeus and Marduk still live, treave said that these guys will pop out in the future (didn't specify when, though). So do Hera, Ares and Shamash. And do any of those guys particularly like us? What I'm driving at here is this: Ean has a good chance of not coming back in a long ass while.
    And should our scholars, spies or whoever piss off the Holy Hammers and/or spark a war, what is to hold the Nation in the absence of the Emperor? Nothing, except the military that is using outdated equipment, split between guarding Olympus, warring and suppressing independence wars from Kingdoms that want it (the Hittites and Assyrians will be the first to demand a split, mark my words. The first are kept in line by their fear of an EMPRAH and the latter want Kingdom status). If we had an Eyeless White/Praetorian guard, I would without hesitation vote to let the Northerners in, as those guys would stick to their business ("Emps didn't say shit about snoopin' around, so I guess we shouldn't"), whereas the Watchers are specifically trained to be an inquisitive bunch with personal initiative ("Emps didn't assign anyone to go snoopin' round, so I guess we gotta figure it out ourselves.)
    However, as things stand, it's a choice between the rift and steel. I'm choosing the rift.
     
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  12. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    The argument for A is the iron will help our expedition. Don't get me wrong I see the disadvantages of it, but the fact of the matter is that A increases the likelihood of success for our expedition. The Empire is screwed if we don't come back, regardless of northern infiltration, so we should take every initiative to increase the chance of our coming back, even if that decision has consequences further down the line.

    I just hope there isn't some weird time dilation thing going on once one goes through the rift. It'd explain why no immortal or gieloth has been able to return so far.
     
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  13. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Smashing Axe: On the contrary, I think we have built a good foundation. Athena is finally a fan of Ean, the military, with it's awesome generals and a fanatic faith, will keep peace and unity, and the different governors should be able to take care of the rest, PROVIDED there is stability and peace. As for the Spies and Blacksmiths, think of it as putting the Inqusition and Adeptus Mechanicus together. Only they serve two different kings, and I doubt the northern empire got to be top dog by being the nicest chaps around and making steel souvenirs instead of steel swords.
    Edit: and I'm also worried about the time dilation. Besides, a hundred swords a year? Make it five hundred and we'll talk. And I'm sure the forges are in goodwill. No ulterior motives, just diplomacy. It' our people that worry me.
     
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  14. treave Arcane Patron

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    No, and no, she's keeping a low profile, more or less, changing personas every decade or so. Only a few in the know are aware of her being inhuman.
     
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  15. m4davis Scholar

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    just wondering do the terashagos have a clear psychic presence
     
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  16. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave: another one. Would ghd hypothetical human-gieloth (Ean-Sekhenun) crossbreed look like Cthulhu?
     
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  17. treave Arcane Patron

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    Either they're mindless animals, or you can't read them properly. Could be either or both, you don't know for sure.

    A hypothetical crossbreed is about as possible as crossing a cow with a fungus and would probably look really fucking weird. You should ask Sekhenun to mod herself to be more human if you want a mating to succeed.

    Preview of next update.

    A. Marry Athena. <Dignified Empress>
    B. Marry Sekhenun. <Tentacle Lover>
    C. Marry Humans. <Mass Breeding Project>
    D. HAREM END. You have not unlocked this DLC. <BUY NOW: $9.99>
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Hmm, the dignified, good natured and innocent immortal, or the edgy! MHD that considers everything to be SHIT! I wonder who it's go- Ofcourse it's B! Anything else is :decline:.
    Besides, Athena will run for the hills as soon as she learns the truth.
     
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  19. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Na, Athena wouldn't neglect her wifely duty, and while Sek is awesome, Athena is more compatible. If it ever happened, it'd be more for political reasons than anything else anyway.
     
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  20. Baltika9 Arcane

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    No?

    How can you say no to that adorable little face?

    Besides, the MHD is always there for Ean. The MHD found him when he was powerless and offered to bring power back. The MHD wanted to prevent Zeus and Marduk from destroying the planet. The MHD has taught the people of the Empire how to think with their heads and gave them the Scientific Method. The MHD has a brain and figured out how to survive in the Warp. The MHD will be the one to get a cure for the Gieloth and turn them to Ean's side. The MHD is becoming more and more human by the second. The MHD has more potential for everything. Besides which, the MHD is awesome.
    Athena is a naive moralist that is liable to switch/be controlled by the voices/masters against Ean. Edit: she also needs a couple more decades of experience to understand what and why Ean does what he does. I seriously doubt someone like her would ignore the whole "I eat humans" thing.

    Besides, what has Athena done for us lately? Or ever, fot that matter.
    (@treave: that is a good question, though. Did she even send Ean a thank-you card for saving her people?)
     
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  21. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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    Aren't you confusing Sekhenun with Edem here? Not saying that a little HoYay would be bad, mind you :P
     
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  22. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Sekhenun is still just playing Ean. Who says she actually wants to be "cured" of the hunger? No, she's simply using Ean to find a way off this ball of dirt and away from the scrying eyes of the Masters. :troll:
     
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  23. ScubaV Prophet

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    I don't really have strong feelings about these choices and the arguments for AAA seem reasonable. This isn't a root LP, but I do feel uneasy about this update. False sense of security?
     
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  24. Bloodshifter Educated

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    Rift jumpers should not let the holy hammers in if we go rift hunting what if we can enter but can't leave?

    Or they are waiting in there remember BOTH marduk and ZUES are chilling in there army or not they will want revengage for us giveing them a send off at least don't let HH see us down the Emp and possibly close the fucking thing behind us
     
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  25. Bloodshifter Educated

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    If it is. The mastuh anyways
     
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