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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. m4davis Scholar

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    BA
     
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  2. This is a tough one. My first inclination is BA. For 1, I'm hoping Naim being on our side...sort of...will keep Kyrie safe. For 2, Cyber Jack was trying to help Qin kill us - at least, I think he was. Also, I don't think Jack ever wanted to kill her. He had ample opportunity and didn't. Plus, I don't think "Til we meet again." is a reference to the afterlife. I think it's just like Jack's original vague message to Qin - a message to us, designed to lure us in.

    I need to think about this one.
     
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  3. treave Arcane Patron

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    The frame crashing happened before Qin recognized you, and the kitchen robot was escaping for some reason that you are unaware of.
     
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  4. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    B - I want to be a Gieloth

    C - I could go three ways here. That said, it'd be nice to have some more information before we make any rash decisions. I just hope it won't be too late. My only other concern with C is Yua getting hacked and Jack consequently fucking around with our body's systems

    Edit: Confused Qin with Yua for some reason.
     
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  5. Yes. That one.

    edit: too slow!
     
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  6. treave Arcane Patron

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    Well, you're free to be paranoid if you want. :lol:
     
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  7. Isn't that what you said before Naim shot us in the eye?
    edit: but it is paranoid. I not 100% on this theory, but it's all so very odd, I'm just not sure what else makes sense.

    I think Cyber Jack does want Qin to spread his message to the world though. That's based off meta knowledge of the whole Senya declaring his love in song though.
     
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  8. treave Arcane Patron

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    I don't think I did?

    I'm not going to confirm whether or not Cyber Jack is doing all of this to get us, of course, but perhaps it might be easier for you to make your case if you could provide text evidence of his interest in Senya.

    edit: Well, the limitations on how Senya's power of suggestion works is a major hint in and of itself. And that's all the extra help I'm going to give for now.
     
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  9. Azira Arcane Patron

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    What if Cyber Jack isn't a physical entity?

    Seeing as this is Animu, consider this:
    Senya woke up back on Earth, his fist held on to the charred core that used to be old Yua.
    Old Yua had steered Senyas CF in just the right manner to let him reenter earths atmosphere without dying.
    Senya possessed the knowledge to hack the solar ring around Earth.
    Yua had access to much the same knowledge Senya did.
    What if Old Yua hacked the solar ring and transferred some of herself, but not everything went as planned?

    Seeing as this is Animu, I wouldn't be halfway surprised if Cyber Jack winds up to be some incarnation of the Old Yua, and she and New Yua winds up duking it out in some manner, and Senya's forced to choose between the two.
    It'd be a dangerous choice, as New Yua is directly interfaced with Senya's body, and Old Yua would be interfaced with just about everything else.

    How's that for paranoia? :lol:
     
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  10. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    BB - Personal Power.
     
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  11. TOME Cuckmaster General

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    I have been thinking new Yua is the Cyber Jack. It can manipulate Senya's brain so it could make Senya do things and then make him forget.

     
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  12. New Yua didn't have the opportunity since we only added the interface AFTER coming back and the letters threatening Qin were signed and written before. Plus, the suspicious activity tip on 7ch occurred before we left for the other world.

    Eh, you sort of equated our thinking Naim didn't place our welfare as a priority as paranoia:
    It's a stretch, but hey.

    Our department was tipped anonymously before the 7ch hack happened. We were just thinking about a giant robot falling on top over us and then it happened. Naim did say that somehow Shulgi/Relius'd know if Kyrie and us meet up. The manager has some connection to the terrorist and she pulled major strings just to get someone from our specific department.

    Additionally, the message cyber jack sent was, as you put it, "vague enough that Esquilax mistook it for a message to Senya":


    Hmm. So why waste words on having them specifically write "til we meet again" if not to send a message? Maybe, I'm wrong here. Again, I'm not 100% on this but it's just very odd. edit: also, cyber jack had numerous opportunities to outright kill Qin, but didn't. If that's because all he wants her to do is "spread his message to the world", why the letters? Why our department at all if not to draw us out?

    Also, there's this:

    A sword that hungers for blood and compells people to murder or suicide? Sekhenun?
     
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  13. Stygian Lurker Scholar

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  14. Of course there's another possibility. Cyber Jack could actually be Shulgi/Relius. Shut up. Let me finish. So Shulgi lost Kyrie, right? And Shulgi knows Kyrie will be looking for us right? He wants her to make contact with us so he'll know where she is. So he lures us out and puts us in some very public situations hoping we'll Ean out and reveal ourselves in some way. He doesn't want us to be fully exposed, just revealed enough so that someone who knows what to look for will be able to notice. Like, for instance, a bodyguard of a famous actress who jumps out of one of the city's tallest buildings to capture a suspect. Then Kyrie makes contact and he's got her. Something to think on.
     
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  15. Storyfag Perfidious Pole Patron

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  16. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Trying to preserve Senya's goodheartedness here. Though I know I'm fighting an uphill battle.
     
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  17. ScubaV Prophet

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    Since our handling of the lawmaker case was "mediocre" it seems we should throw Azo a bone. Plus, it will mean less crap for us to deal with while we potentially get involved with this 'Messenger'.
     
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  18. treave Arcane Patron

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    At the current update rate of once every two or three days, I find that I am probably able to squeeze in a general CYOA topic, which will serve more as an ideas test-bed for the CYOA aficionados here to introduce, discuss and try out new narrative mechanics - though I'm not sure if that still belongs in the Playground. I've found that some ideas, though they work fine in my head, don't turn out too well when I pit against the Codex.

    I've a few ideas in the running to start that thread off with, if any of you are interested:

    1. Rewind:
    Stars a refined version of the rewind mechanism I've adopted for the game overs in this LP. You get to vote to repick your choice at every update, but every time you do so, the world turns ever so slightly towards a more insane reality, and at times choices don't turn out the way you expect even with your limited foresight of the future. The setting is undecided, but likely to be a mix of modern-day + some Lovecraftian influence.

    2. Generations:
    Generation dynamics; we can go the easy way, and have subsequent chapters focusing on the child and grandchild, or we can roll with alternating updates, jumping between each of the generations. Which is quite tricky to pull off with a CYOA for the C&C without massive railroading, and I'd be interested in seeing if anyone has any bright ideas on that part. Setting will probably be a hundred years war of some sort; not the Hundred Years' War, unless there's great demand for that particular setting.

    3. Tower:
    A dungeon crawl up a mysterious, hundred kilometer high monolith that appeared mysteriously one day in 21st century Earth. More traditional, less gimmickry. What I'm going to do, though, is to generate a party of seven with personalities, ambitions and backstories based on choices. Then we vote for a main, and finally we run the CYOA and see how each character plays off the other. Should a character die, we vote for the next one to be the main, and continue moving through it until we reach the top or the party is wiped.

    4. Superhero:
    What it says on the cover. Similar to the superhero concept I introduced earlier. Could be combined with Rewind and still work.

    None of these are going to be full LPs with a hundred updates, and we'll be free to experiment or throw away a particular LP if it isn't going well in favour of playing with a newer, cooler idea. Think of them like movies rather than the long-running soap opera you are currently participating in.
     
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  19. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I'd really like to see Hobo Rider stick it to the Flameboy. :smug:
     
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  20. Zwist Learned

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    Because B is just to shiny. Even if it is ridiculously rash and will lose us our network for no certain gain.

    The way the victims reacted it would make sense that Jack has direct control, as the waitress reacted on an unforseen event(by stabbing a guy), that would imply that he must have some kind of connection at all times, I do not know how augments work, so that it might be the net. However the serving robot might have served that function. In terms of an interrogation, a room without any possible connection to the net might be a good thing.
    There is also the possibility that Quin was influenced by Jack, her view on things was a tiny bit to simple. We might end up in a creepy game of brain ping-pong.

    Also. This reminds me quite a lot of an Anime called Lain.
     
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  21. Smashing Axe Arcane Patron

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    Tower sounds the most interesting to me. I like the concept and the way death is handled. It'd be fun to try and get to the top of the tower with the luck and decision making skills of the Codex.

    I think you've hit the nail on the head. The robot infects them by touch through some nanomachine shenanigans, then acts as a vehicle for Jack to assume control.

    Edit: Generations wouldn't be bad either. I suspect it'd turn into a eugenics simulator ala CK2
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    Brain augments come with wireless connections, but they are hardly unprotected. Each comes with a standard ICE package, which should delay any hacker, even the excellent ones, long enough for the connection to be dropped. They are designed to report any tampering attempt to the user, no matter how minor. Direct, physical access makes things much easier, but it would either have to be an exceedingly subtle method, or the hacker would have to hold down the target by force. It is possible to program simple triggers into the augments, once you have access. If A, then B.

    Current nanomachine technology isn't advanced enough to help with hacking yet, as it is still focused mainly on terraforming due to its origins in Inanna flower research.

    Serial Experiments Lain? Good call, though I believe the concept has an older origin.
     
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  23. ScubaV Prophet

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    It would almost certainly be a giant pain in the ass for whoever ran it, but I think a multiplayer CYOA would be awesome. Give each player (or rather a small team of players to minimize the effects of absenteeism) a character to control and see how they interact. The scope would have to be pretty small to ensure interaction and minimize headaches. I'm not sure how feasible this is. Perhaps a small team on the author side would be necessary as well.
     
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  24. Zwist Learned

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    I like superhero. I think it would tie in great with the way people already start acting in CYOA's after some time. The reload action could be done by someone actually making "backups", dying would make you lose the chance to chose for that choice and is only available if the Hero is a big enough "Brand" to warrant a "reboot". A sort of immortality, but fuck up enough and you're not worth the hassle. and dying would still come with a price. Or you might actually put a pricetag on that if you work with funds, as in "new body 39,99,-".

    Jup, that one. And I've seen similar concepts quite a lot of places, but mostly as sub-plots or techonobabble.
     
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  25. aleam iacis Scholar

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    BA. I would also be okay with AA. I know we don't expect any loyalty from Azo (we don't know him at all) and I also know that Senya is prone to oblique approaches, but I'm tired of us not caring about our cover job. Besides, maybe we can see Erika again.

    treave, did you want someone to make a new topic? Or just to discuss that stuff here? Anyway, I'd be happy to enjoy a lovecraftian Rewind or a Generations one. Tower makes me think of Cube. Superhero would be okay, but I've read most of the Whateley stories and it's not that cool to me anymore.
     
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