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[LP CYOA] Epic

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by treave, Jun 23, 2012.

  1. The Brazilian Slaughter Arcane

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    EDIT: What happened to all these Ean sucessors post Tree? The Skanian Prince and Jarvik died, Shulgi roflpwned Ban, Aodh was killed by Dio, Lady Joan was aparently enslaved/killed/raped by Dio, Dio became THE Master, Ean's yellowstreaker friends died fighting Zhang when we ate the tree, but what happened, for example, to the Madman and the Lady of Martyrs?
    There were, what, 100 or more Ean sucessors?

    We know now that the Dunamis clan is descended from Ean sucessors (I would bet from the Lady of Martyrs), but for all we know there were perhaps thousands or even a million Ean sucessorss-spawn running around before the Gray Death. It would be nice if these people kindly showed up and enlisted for the war effort, because, you know, RISE IN THE NAME OF THE GOD-EMPEROR and all that.

    So many reloads that ULTIMATE DOOM EXPANSION PACK arrives? Thanks to Shulgi, that's nearer than ever.

    Pretty sure Cyberjack was Anna, Psycho-Senya acidentally got rid of Cyberjack when he killed her.

    Also, one thing I'm curious: Why Shulgi didn't just... restrain Psycho-Senya in the first place rather than repeatedly killing him? Shulgi is a immensely powerful telekinetic, has quite good physical power and was able to duel two mechas piloted by Rei AND Senya, all by himself, and win (even Ean would't have been able to do that). Did Shulgi panic the fuck out and started spamming lethal attacks? All Senya had was a bit super-human physical ability and his powers.

    Its a veritable pity Senya didn't try to retrieve Shulgi from the sun. It would've been fuck-hard, but it was possible, and if anyone could do it was Senya. Granted, the guy took the fall for Senya's psycho self actions,
     
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  2. Azira Arcane Patron

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    I wonder. Waaaay back when we had to choose which of the original three we had to play, if we hadn't chosen Ean, would our choice still have been considered saddled with "damaged voices"? I mean, if we to some extent symbolise the voices, I cannot imagine us having been any more coherent than we already are..

    In other words, I feel sorry for Senya. :roll:
     
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  3. So it was Yua after all. I suppose Shulgi must have salvaged her and used her to suit his purposes or some such? Aw, crap. Well, codex gonna codex, I suppose. Where's the reload button?

    That reminds me though, if our other self was really trying to preserve his friends why did he chop up poor Anna instead of "freeing her information"? (Other than the fact that it's great fun to chop up Anna's. See, you can arrange them in so many ways: anan, naan, nnaa, nana - the possibilities are endless...sort of.)
     
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  4. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Yeah, poor Naram would be even more insane if we picked him.

    "Kill the tentacle!"
    "Love the tentacle!"
    "Purge the tentacle!"
    "Embrace the tentacle!"
    Ad infinium.
     
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  5. Esquilax Arcane

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    In our encounter with Adrahasis, he managed to hide 10,000 ships while we were talking and surround us. I don't know what sort of tech the League has, but being backed by the Masters definitely presents a wild card, and could really throw a wrench in the works:

    Now, we have one Master who is intrigued by Senya as he's never seen a being like him, but I'm betting that most of them are backing the League. Providing them with knowledge via the voices could be a sign of their divine favour, as well as an example of them "bending" the rules of the game. But then again, I see more Master fuckery occuring once we encounter the Council.

    As for any counterarguments to this, I don't have any. If they have somehow managed to hide 20 fortresses via cloaking tech that we don't possess, our guys are dead meat if they charge in. According to treave, some jamming is in play to cover the retreat, which makes me uneasy. They could be well fortified there with all of their fortresses for all we know.

    I don't think anyone is playing this like a power fantasy here. We all know the risks that come with A/B, it's just that sometimes you don't have all the information at hand and you need to make a risky decision if you want to achieve victory.

    For example, you voted for the safest option, C. This is perfectly fine. But C also nets us nothing and allows our enemies to consolidate quite comfortably on their own turf and prepare for us - that's indisputable. So yes, with A we are taking a big gamble, but I suspect that winning this war will involve getting it right on a few gambles. If we play it safe here and for example, we link with Ean's group, then that simply postpones a hard decision like this for another day. And that decision might be even harder later.

    Is A the right decision? I think so, but I could be horribly wrong. All I can do is really extrapolate from what we know, and this is it:
    • When we arrived at Gelmark, we saw the stars and gas giants of the system, but the fortresses were nowhere to be seen. The fortresses are mobile, so they could simply have been moved and cloaked through advanced tech or immortal power. This is a point against A, to be sure, but doing something like that would require immense power and tech that we aren't familiar with. Adrahasis cloaked 10,000 ships, but this is a much greater feat.
    • Armada Delta is heading toward a jump point that leads closer to the core.
    • They sped up and made no attempt to fire on us after they saw us. Some jamming is in play to cover their retreat, or apparent retreat.
    • Our intel tells us that Alpha is heading closer towards the core as well, to lie in wait for us. They possibly want to choose the site of the last battle at Carneus Beta. However, Gelmark provides the closest rout to Carneus Beta, allowing a fleet to reach it in just four jumps.
    • We know the location of their forces except Epsilon, it's safe to assume they know the location of ours.
     
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  6. treave Arcane Patron

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    Dunamis are inbred. The other lines were weak and diluted themselves out. Psycho-Senya had the rather irritating habit of setting scenarios up where it was do or die. Basically, it's hard to pin him down, and when you did, you couldn't hold back too much lest he nails you with his powers.

    Also he's a psycho. He'll cut down anyone who gets in his way, friend or not. See: Erika.

    AI Goddess Yua was a possible result of you hijacking the system Cyber Jack used and allowing her to transcend much in the same way Ean did, backed by millions of souls lost in a nanoplague 'accident' as a sacrifice.
     
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  7. treave Arcane Patron

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    As for Adrahasis's ambush, he was already setting it up from the start, after he recovered from getting pulled out of slipspace. Between the chaotic nature of that battle and fighting the Dragon, you didn't notice it.
     
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  8. Esquilax Arcane

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    treave, just to confirm, the route that Delta are heading towards would take them closer to Carneus Beta, correct?
     
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  9. C gets us to the battlefield to help Ean out. If some of the fortresses are there or are on their way, things might be/get rather difficult for him.

    I get the A gamble, I really do. The question you need to ask yourself is this: Did they know we were coming here? If so, then this is a trap and we should bug out and help Ean. If not, then we may want to attack now.

    That also reminds me, about Epsilon: how many ships in that fleet again?

    Huh, 13,010. Gosh, I wonder if they could cloak themselves? And they are a small, fast fleet. Self sustaining. Perfect for rushing in and guarding the fortress move just in case of enemy attack.

    My 2 cents. Carry on, gentlemen.
     
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  10. treave Arcane Patron

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    Ean has the best commander on our roster to show him the ropes, a supporting cast of bad motherfuckers, and at least three quarters of our super-heavy battleships. If he needs help at this point, we shouldn't have revived him in the first place.

    The question you should ask yourself is not whether this is a trap or not, but rather, assuming it is a trap, what kind of trap is it? I see three alternatives:
    1. This is a ploy to get us to rush in and overextend. This is fairly straightforward and makes A disastrous.
    2. This is a ploy to get us to follow them into the next system, closer to Carneus Beta, where they are backed up, likely by Alpha, as they are approaching there. This is the theory I subscribe to.
    3. It isn't a trap now, but it could become one if we are slow and they prepare for us in the upcoming jump point.
    Good observation. They certainly can cloak themselves, otherwise we'd be able to pin down their movements more easily. I've already explained why I don't believe that Epsilon is here at Gelmark right now, but I certainly can't dispute any of this.
     
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  12. Baltika9 Arcane

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    treave, this is really paranoid, but: can Yua do a quick google-check on how many planets there are in this system?
     
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  13. treave Arcane Patron

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    "That's no planet, it's a battlestation!"

    Three.

    No, none of them are a massive Project V superweapon disguised as a planet.

    :troll:
     
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  14. See, you should have said "omg, twenty!". It'd have freaked us out.

    And what if it's both 1 & 2? What if they are setting a trap now and also know that back up is waiting in a second trap just in case we don't take the bait at first. Just like when Adrahasis set a trap on the planet AND a trap on the cruiser - both we're traps. Then wouldn't the safest option be to run the opposite direction and back Ean up?
     
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  15. Baltika9 Arcane

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    That's an oddly specific denial. I think A takes it, let's see how correctly we've interpreted the situation.

    "Heavy ships, close ranks on the Sword of Ean and advance in formation, laying down suppressive fire!"
    "Cruisers, chase down and harass the enemy!"
    "Grimrock, warp your ships into a good flanking position!"
    "Rei, consolidate the armor! Thrusters on maximum!"

    "Ramm them."

    Edit: :lol:
     
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  16. treave Arcane Patron

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    Actually, it's the binary star that's the problem. It wasn't binary before.
     
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  17. Hahaha. Ok. I'm done arguing. This should be good. I really hope for Senya's sake that you guys are right. I hope, but gimme a break... :/

    A little preview of what's to come:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piVnArp9ZE0
     
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  18. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Well, you can't do both simultaneously. Either they get us to overextend in this system, or hope that we're reluctant to engage and follow them into the next system. That being said, it's certainly possible that this is an elaborate trap where Plan A is to get us to rush in, while Plan B if we don't take the bait is to hope we follow them into the next system. I'm just finding it hard to envision a scenario where they could do both things at once. They would need some crazy combination of having Epsilon hidden away at Gelmark with Alpha Armada on the other side of the jump in case we don't take the initial bait.

    It just seems too "JUST AS PLANNED" for it to be real. Our enemies are very smart and I'm not underestimating them, but it would be downright Tzeentchian for them to have planned things down to this level of detail.
     
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  20. treave Arcane Patron

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    I'll have the update out later today, but I believe A takes it.

    Just to note: Moving twenty fortresses is no easy feat. It would take many weeks just to get the fortresses to the jump point. Make of that what you will.
     
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  21. Baltika9 Arcane

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    Depends on what that sun is hiding. If it's twenty battlestations, then the joke's on them.
     
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  22. treave Arcane Patron

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    I was kidding about the star thing. You'd think Senya would notice something like an extra star or planet where it's not supposed to be.
     
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  23. edit: Don't worry, treave. I'm pretty sure Baltika was joking too. At least I hope so. ;)
    Well, Alpha could already be on their way here so that they can intercept Ean's fleet. Assuming they just found out about the attack hours or days ago and are moving to intercept both fleet one after another.

    I'm not sure Alpha would move prior to being forced to though. It's more likely that Epsilon is here hiding and if we don't take they bait they'll follow us wherever we decide to go and if we do they'll attack when we over extend.
     
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  24. Baltika9 Arcane

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    I don't know what you're talking about. I am fully intent on ramming the fuck out of them.

    Say, what happens if we fire a matter/antimatter black hole in slipspace?
     
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  25. Or how about just before we enter slipspace so that the reaction goes out of control after we leave? Bye bye, fortress system (sans fortresses, but hey, nothing says fear inspiring like destroying an entire solar system...) :D
     
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