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Nevill

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If you had brought up that argument at any other point than right now, just before all of Methuss thinks we're a dangerous oddball as a best scenario due to her initiative, then I would not be laughing quite so well. Thank you for waiting for the perfect moment.
That is not what 'betrayal' means. :M

Rin may be incompetent, but she is not a traitor waiting to stab us, which was your argument at the time. You just presented it as such, just as you are presenting Wisteria as someone who hates us to the point she will ignore the simple truth that she got killed without us having a hand in it, but she wouldn't be alive without our direct intervention. Nostrils would go to such lengths, but then no one in their right mind would try resurrecting him.

We did kill her, but then we revived her.
Did we? I do not remember it.

We answer for our servants' deeds, same as any other lord.
We will, the moment Rin admits to being our servant and starts acting subservient. :lol:

But hey, if you want to continue arguing that 'two-on-one duel is unfair' Wisteria will knowingly distort the facts and claim that we attempted to kill her to - uh, I dunno, to have a major pain in the ass resurrecting her, I guess - well, be my guest.
 

Baltika9

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It doesn't matter how Wisteria reacts to this situation (I'm more in agreement with Gobblecock in that she will react poorly), what matters is that we must fix this mess before it turns into a clusterfuck. Sadly, I don't see C being able to salvage anything. The only lie we can tell when someone asks for Wisteria is, 'I dunno. Haven't seen her since the boat.' I don't think that will convince a lot of people.
That means we have A and B as viable solutions, both of which are tremendous gambles, because we know nothing of our odds in both: Zayan might not be able to do anything and there might not be anyone who can help us resurrect Wisteria in time. But, between the two, I like B way more, because then we at least have some wiggle room to come up with a substitute and a story. For instance, we can make the golem pretend to be head over heels in love with us to the point of running away.
Sadly, that's the closest Erdrick will get to getting any.
 

Nevill

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Artificial women? What's next, non-alcoholic beer? The decline is truly upon us. :negative:
 

Baltika9

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Look, we can either play this semi-seriously where we try to fit in from Erdrick's perspective of a smart guy forced to deal with idiots, in which case we take the most effective solution; or we can use our outsider's preferences and memes (Jesus, the cucking meme is already old) and play this for lulz. I'm fine with either, tbh, but let's try to not mix those together.
 

lightbane

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The problem with A is that if the priests are unable/unwilling to resurrect her, then we're screwed. If they do, we're still screwed, because it is a certain thing that Nostrils, Duke B. and the other nobles will react extremely poorly (possibly to the point of making our life in Methuss hell or even renew their contracts with the Assasins' Guild). And that's not taking into consideration if the resurrection will demand a price in a way or another (although if we end up having to do an heroic fetch-quest to resurrect a woman who will not not return our feelings at any point, it will be amusing). Wisteria may or may not be content with us after the whole ordeal, but the point is that our reputation with Methus will get worse because of the actions of one of our companions (the fact that said companion doesn't truly act as our servant won't matter to the judges).

Meanwhile, with B, even if it fails, we get time to make up something to ease the situation (and kidnapping is still a somewhat less agravatting crime than presumed murder). So at the end it comes down to choose which poison you prefer: trust in the remote chance she'll be resurrected while risking the possibility of being detained and sentenced to be a breeding slave for their Angel*, or hope that the mad scientist can think about a solution.

Truth to be told though, I wouldn't mind seeing both outcomes, I'm an unrepentant storyfag like that. :oops:


*Although I believe this fate wouldn't be considered that bad for certain Codexers.
 

Nevill

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If they do, we're still screwed, because it is a certain thing that Nostrils, Duke B. and the other nobles will react extremely poorly
Remind me what we were trying to do with Wisteria when we invited her on a date. No, seriously.

Are we trying to play nice with the nobles now, of all times, when we got one of them, who is soon-to-be son-in-law for the other, thrown out of a banquet due to royal displeasure?

They will react poorly to any development that concerns us and Wist.

I agree that the consequences of failure in A are more severe, whereas our reputation is concerned - but then again, it's the only choice that (maybe?) allows to mitigate the negative effects of our action - as was said before, it is a potential accusation of murder against a certain one of kidnapping.

I also kind-of sort-of feel bad for Wist and don't want her transformed into a golem, but that's where I am in the minority, so I won't bring this up. :M
 

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Lucy was lvl4 when we picked her up and got 2 levels after time skip (when Aria/Arlin went from 5th to 8th). There were no level ups since then, though I think she deserves one now for killing the whole Knight Captain.

Edit: she also got a + in M. Att & M. Def. :?
 
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lightbane

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I don't believe there's any danger of Fumblerina betraying us at any point. What's happening is that she realized her uselessness plus lack of skills is becoming more apparent every passing day and she doesn't like that. She's desperate to prove herself that "nope, I'm not a spoiled ex-princess who can do anything by herself!" and thus she'll try to do anything to demonstrate that fact to Erd (who's clearly far more skilled at everything than her, much to her chagrin). Worse, she still hasn't grown out of the "humans are puny and insignificant insects!" yet, which doesn't help. At this rate, she'll get herself killed long before attempting betrayal (although I'm not sure she would have the mental capacity to think about said plan anyway, or at least not in a way that can threaten us). Perhaps Zayan can give us an explosive/mind-control collar to solve this issue.

On the other hand, she somehow managed to coerce Lucy to perform as a bovine torpedo, so she perhaps is not entirely useless. :lol:
in any case, what's the tally now, Nevill ?
 

Nevill

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I don't believe there's any danger of Fumblerina betraying us at any point. What's happening is that she realized her uselessness plus lack of skills is becoming more apparent every passing day and she doesn't like that. She's desperate to prove herself that "nope, I'm not a spoiled ex-princess who can do anything by herself!" and thus she'll try to do anything to demonstrate that fact to Erd (who's clearly far more skilled at everything than her, much to her chagrin).
Yes, that's pretty much my take on her, too. She craves validation, and we are the only one whose opinion is worth a damn to her.

She is not too unlike Aria in that regard.

She is not slow, though; in fact, she is quite brilliant and her plans may be quite elaborate... it's just that they work in alternative reality that runs on bizarro logic, not in this one. :lol:

in any case, what's the tally now, Nevill ?
A6 vs. B7 with Storyfag's and Kayerts' votes and flops. I'll do a more precise one tomorrow.
 
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wjw

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B. Wisteria can become Commander of our undead legion. Zayan can practice on creating frankenstein monsters. Double win. Only for the loss of some still very far off booty.

"You may call me.... Commander."
 

asxetos

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B i guess. We done goofed.
At least we can play dumb and say we left her outside her house or something like that when people ask.
 

Kipeci

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Well, I suppose if it doesn't work out in B and everyone hates us for the kidnapping, murder and flesh golemizing of their Knight-Commander then that makes it all the easier to convince folks here to Gigadyne them into oblivion when hunting for the angel. There's a benefit either way. :M
 

Karwelas

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Codex Year of the Donut I helped put crap in Monomyth
Oh, hey, let's check last update...

... Ok, let's me get this stright. We used our cow as a torpedo, killed some important person by pure accident and now we have to deal with her death and body.

*Pulls lever labed 'MAXIMUM CODEXIAN FUCK'.* Ok, here we go!

B
 

lightbane

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You know what? I'll switch my vote to A, because not only it's the course of action that has a (low) possibility of not making Methuss entirely hostile towards us, but also because I just remembered that we left Zayan alone for too long. By now half of the goblin population has most likely been replaced by skinless, flesh-eating abominations with an endless hunger, so it would be best if we do not bring another body here. Moreover, making Methuss our enemies will make the take over of Erise Village (and therefore the access to whatever kind of strange water they drink to make such strong animals) more difficult. Too bad it's a forlorn hope now.
 

Nevill

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Too bad it's a forlorn hope now.
No, it's a A7 vs B9 now. It can still swing either way.

Ultimately, I am fine with both, and I find B quite lulzy, but I also wonder how long it would take the 'Dex to shift blame for the inevitable Methussian fallout on Rin, Aria, Lucy and bad weather, and totally not on our unwillingness to deal with the situation. :M
 

Baltika9

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Ultimately, I am fine with both, and I find B quite lulzy, but I also wonder how long it would take the 'Dex to shift blame for the inevitable Methussian fallout on Rin, Aria, Lucy and bad weather, and totally not on our unwillingness to deal with the situation. :M
Hell no, we're nipping this in the bud: Rin is the one who fucked this up and both A and B mean to deal with this. 'Unwillingness to deal with the situation' would be C.
 

Jester

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A

We were seen with her last, so if we bolt with body people will add two and two. Sticking around telling a story of boat accident and assisting search for Wist actually is less likely to bring on our neck whole kingdom nobility. In B she there is chance she will figure out who our inventor is, unless we have way to control her loyality to kingdom will win.

If custom options are fine i would say use Gigadyne.
:lol:

Hell no, we're nipping this in the bud: Rin is the one who fucked this up again and both A and B mean to deal with this. 'Unwillingness to deal with the situation' would be C.
Fixed.
 

Grimgravy

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Hell no, we're nipping this in the bud: Rin is the one who fucked this up and both A and B mean to deal with this. 'Unwillingness to deal with the situation' would be C.
A and B are both trying to fix Rin's mistake. C doesn't. How will Rin learn if the full magnitude of her mistake is masked with our meddling? Come on people. Mass flop to C and let's watch the fireworks!
 

Nevill

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Hell no, we're nipping this in the bud: Rin is the one who fucked this up and both A and B mean to deal with this. 'Unwillingness to deal with the situation' would be C.
Heh, they all 'deal' with this, just in a different manner. C is us whistling innocently as we put a dindu face on. :M

There is an option of fixing trying to fix everything to how it was, and there is playing make-believe. Just don't blame the girl if there is a slip up.

That's not to say I know which option is better or would work better - I don't. I simply point it out that even though Rin was the one who got us in this mess, we are the one who decides how it plays out in the end.

In B she there is chance she will figure out who our inventor is, unless we have way to control her loyality to kingdom will win.
That's probably less important than the whole deal of an angel and a demon princess ruling monsters and bandits with the help of ancient Demon Lords from inside the Methussian forest. Zayan would be the least on our list of transgressions.

Either we or Zayan should probably make sure the information does not leak and that she stays with us, one way or the other.

Kipeci A > B
Baltika9 C>B
Nevill A
Azira B
Kz3r0 A
Esquilax A
Grimgravy C
Lambchop19 A>B
Gobblecock B>C
profreshinal B
lightbane A
TOME C>A
Storyfag B
Kayerts B
wjw B
asxetos B
Karwelas B
Jester A
Elfberserker A
Rex Feral A>B

A - 9 (10)
B - 8 (9)
C - 3 (1) TOME->A, Baltika9->B

Of the regulars, ScubaV, Elfberserker, Tigranes, archaen, and Rex Feral haven't voted yet.
 
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