Magic the Gathering Arena

[Thac0]

How you gonna have all this mega bomb ass spider artwork and not have them represent.

Just another bigoted powerplay by GRAND Wizards of the Coast.

Well you could always try to make a spiders deck by just slamming all the spiders into a deck with https://www.cardkingdom.com/mtg/core-set-2020/icon-of-ancestry naming Spider. But we are not talking uncompetitive, we are talking 10% winrate in casual play here.
Vampires are definitly your better choice.

The tribe that will get love next are dogs, I fear spiders are pretty last in line right now.
Truly disgusting from SJWotC

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

But we are not talking uncompetitive, we are talking 10% winrate in casual play here.

A CHANCE IS ALL I NEED, BABY.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Thac0]

But we are not talking uncompetitive, we are talking 10% winrate in casual play here.

A CHANCE IS ALL I NEED, BABY.

You will die braver than most little spider. There are only 11 spiders in the game right now, and of those I only consider Atrasta of the Endless Webs and Chainweb Arachnir to be somewhat good. There is one really fat spider with Undergrowth that might have been decent but never saw play. Slop them into a deck with ritual of soot and mercyless act x4 and pray. Maybe add Fiend Artisan and some graveyard fillers for undergrowth. It will be horrible.

 

[Akratus]

Spoiler

Standard sucks. Brawl is better.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

watched the livestream spoiler thing and most of the new card arts look like cgi ripping off runeterra or something ugh... just give me some hand drawn magic pls

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Thac0]

so...

this disgusting thing can activate twice, once in each turn?
If you play in group, lets say 6man circle, it will be 10 loyality by the time your start your turn 5?

You can activate a loyalty ability of a planeswalker you control only at the time you could cast a sorcery and only if you haven't activated one of that planeswalker's loyalty abilities yet that turn

Card is absolutely haram, you can even use the defensive ability during your opponents turn and have it life due to that. Te4eri can go fuck himself preemptively, even if he turns out to be shit.
In more exciting news Containment Priest and Baneslayer Angel are standard legal now. White has gotten so much love recently, maybe its time to be shit is over.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

here you go Tarantulos-Eduardo-Sanchez

this card's gonna be busted af

art looks like one of those avengers movies

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

+

otk btw

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Snorkack]

God, for some reason I allowed people to talk me into creating a MtGA account, around 20 years after I quit magic for good and... it's surprisingly fun. Building a collection is not quite on par with duelling Aga Ganeers for dungeon clues in shandalar but gameplay is really fast and slick.

Oh, and the artwork really turned into garbage... but that was already forseeable when I quit (at around Visions? Tempest?).

Right now I'm farming gold with the black/blue Surveil prebuild. Any idea how to make this deck more viable? Or is it dead end?

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Thac0]

God, for some reason I allowed people to talk me into creating a MtGA account, around 20 years after I quit magic for good and... it's surprisingly fun. Building a collection is not quite on par with duelling Aga Ganeers for dungeon clues in shandalar but gameplay is really fast and slick.

Oh, and the artwork really turned into garbage... but that was already forseeable when I quit (at around Visions? Tempest?).

Right now I'm farming gold with the black/blue Surveil prebuild. Any idea how to make this deck more viable? Or is it dead end?

Surveil is a good limited strategy and works fine on the lower ranks. You need to swap it out when you want a rank above gold tho.
Sinister Sabotage is the best surveil card and currently the best counterspell in standard in general (only rivaled by the new Neutralize). If you like blue and want to stay on cycling a little longer that is a very safe craft.
But spending rares in general is not the best idea right now. Spoilers for the new set started today. Cards you would craft could get powercrept/outdated by new ones or just rotate out.

https://mtgazone.com/mtg-standard-rotation-guide/
Mind that there is a rotation in three months. All cards older than Eldraine (including Sinister Sabotage) will rotate out. So to be completely future proof craft good stuff from Core 21, Eldraine and Ikoria. The new Theros is pretty garbage, there are only a handfull good cards from that.
The best rotation proof blue card is probably Brazen Borrower. Very likely that that will be a staple until next year.

If you like the gameplay of the surveil deck you could go into Dimir Flash or Mutate for the same colours.
https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/dimir-flash-decklist-by-luis-gustavo-gomes-pereira-980680
https://mtgdecks.net/Standard/bo1-dimir-mutate-decklist-by-princeabubu-983636

 

[Snorkack]

Thanks for the input!

Cards you would craft could get powercrept/outdated by new ones or just rotate out.

Now that's a flashback. For the exact same reason I quit playing after spending hundreds of bucks on the Tempest expansions just to realize they were basically useless when Urza's Saga came out.

Good thing I just used all my uncommon&rare wildcards for Guilds of Ravnica shit.
By the way, what happens to the premade decks I received so far when 21 comes out? Will there be an entire new set of fifteen decks for everyone? Also, will my M20 cards still be standard legal when they are part of the new set as well? Sorry, might be a dumb question. Never played official formats.

 

[Thac0]

Thanks for the input!

Cards you would craft could get powercrept/outdated by new ones or just rotate out.

Now that's a flashback. For the exact same reason I quit playing after spending hundreds of bucks on the Tempest expansions just to realize they were basically useless when Urza's Saga came out.

Good thing I just used all my uncommon&rare wildcards for Guilds of Ravnica shit.
By the way, what happens to the premade decks I received so far when 21 comes out? Will there be an entire new set of fifteen decks for everyone? Also, will my M20 cards still be standard legal when they are part of the new set as well? Sorry, might be a dumb question. Never played official formats.

Last rotation they gave new premade decks for all colour combinations. They even gave more than before iirc, I think they upgraded from 5 premade decks for all colours to 10 for all guilds. Arena only had one real rotation yet, so hard to tell. There will probably be new precons.

Yes, when a card gets reprinted the old versions stay legal. I am 90% sure this holds true for Arena aswell, but there havent been meaningfull reprints yet since there was only 1 rotation.

You will soon see that rare wildcards matter the most, mythics matter a little and uncommons&commons dont matter at all. Arena is a bit weird in the quantitiy of wildcards you get, you are always starved on rare WCs.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Scruffy]

this is a non--terrible article if you want some inspiration for a cheap standard deck

https://mtgazone.com/mtg-arena-budget-standard-decks/

take of course into consideration that the companion mechanic has changed

 

[Jason Liang]

Speaking of Vampires

Also - OMG how are they printing these into Standard/ Pioneer/ Modern, WTF:

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

haven't drafted ikoria in weeks and now I remember why this dumb ass deck goes 7-0 ugh

it's literally not even fun to play cycling is such broken crap I hate it
ixalan dinos pls save meeeeeee

 

[Scruffy]

i haven't had much time to play or follow the meta, but the consensus is that ikoria is p. shit, right?

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

i haven't had much time to play or follow the meta, but the consensus is that ikoria is p. shit, right?

limited was close to being good but they ruined it by having a lot of colorless cycling cards and common rarity cycling payoffs that are stronger than the strongest bombs in other limited formats. It's so good that a legit competitive constructed deck was created using basically just cycling cards and payoffs from ikoria. Really a shame because minus the cycling deck it's a really good draft format.

For the little I know of constructed meta, MANY of ikoria's impactful rares were companions, which have just been nerfed so hard that I don't think meta decks will be using them anymore. Prior to the nerf almost every deck ran companions but now I doubt many will be using them. Other noteworthy cards were Winota and Lukka, which are used to cheat out insane creatures between turns 3 and 5. This lead to agent of treachery being banned because nobody likes having their lands stolen on turn 3. People may still be using Winota and Lukka because they can still cheat out some crazy shit, but probably nothing as annoying as agent.

As far as I'm concerned, Iko printed two of the coolest cards I've seen in a long time:

Cyclone is fucking hilarious but pretty shitty, fun to play in unranked. Shark typhoon is also hilarious but also playable in competitive control decks usually as a "pay 2+x to make an x/x flying shark and draw 1". Also Iko added triome lands which are sweet for deck building but idk if people use them in competitive decks cuz they come in tapped.

Uhhh that's pretty much it.. Seb did some cool art with the mythos spells:

but as always the cards that seb gets commissioned for suck lmao so you never see them.

 

[Thac0]

i haven't had much time to play or follow the meta, but the consensus is that ikoria is p. shit, right?

Yes, standard was the worst it has been in a long while. High impact bans hit today, so maybe it is not shit anymore.

Limited is strange, very high power decks there. Very easy to go infinite in Arenas draft modes if you know what you are doing.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

If I'm currently using the new player prebuilt decks is it better to play unranked to grind out dailies without being completely obliterated? I heard the MMR takes into consideration your deck strength so you would theoretically face other players using those same decks for a more even playing field.

Or is it better to go into ranked?