Magic the Gathering Arena

[Dr1f7]

tried some historic and had a god damn PTSD attack when opp played cauldron familiar
never wanted to see that asshole cat again

 

[lukaszek]

you can take it to historic brawl with korvold(or ziatora) as commander. Slap treasures and big dragons for the win

oh hell yeah i didn't even think about brawl
im yugioh up in here

there is one more tri color that tends to be forgotten, I know I rarely think of it

although i prefer my commanders to build a theme, as opposed to be just a threat

there is another that you can actually see decks built around (im lazy and paste 1st results from google search)

 

[lukaszek]

are you guyz excited for milling those pesky creatureless control decks?

 

[Reapa]

are you guyz excited for milling those pesky creatureless control decks?

while playing a pesky creatureless control deck yourself? that shit is blue black

 

[lukaszek]

mtggnome got a thing for davriel in hb and i must say playing decks around him is just beautiful
here is villis deck of his, tutors are there to find davrield and get emblem +2life whenever you draw a card

decklist

Commander
1 Vilis, Broker of Blood (M20) 122

Deck
33 Swamp (SNC) 267
1 Hero's Downfall (VOW) 120
1 Aetherflux Reservoir (KLR) 217
1 Dark Ritual (STA) 26
1 Gray Merchant of Asphodel (THB) 99
1 Mind Stone (WTH) 153
1 Guardian Idol (JMP) 467
1 Duress (MID) 98
1 Phyrexian Arena (8ED) 152
1 Sign in Blood (STA) 32
1 Bojuka Bog (WWK) 132
1 Solemn Simulacrum (M21) 239
1 Reliquary Tower (M19) 254
1 Coldsteel Heart (CSP) 136
1 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
1 Grim Tutor (M21) 103
1 Gilded Lotus (DAR) 215
1 Radiant Fountain (M21) 248
1 Virulent Plague (DTK) 125
1 Hedron Archive (JMP) 468
1 Gifted Aetherborn (JMP) 239
1 Yahenni's Expertise (KLR) 112
1 Bontu's Monument (AKR) 269
1 Torment of Hailfire (AKR) 128
1 The Eldest Reborn (DAR) 90
1 Cabal Stronghold (DAR) 238
1 Detection Tower (M19) 249
1 Price of Fame (GRN) 83
1 Aid the Fallen (WAR) 76
1 Bolas's Citadel (WAR) 79
1 Kaya's Ghostform (WAR) 94
1 Ob Nixilis's Cruelty (WAR) 101
1 Mana Geode (JMP) 472
1 Dread Presence (M20) 96
1 Foreboding Fruit (ELD) 88
1 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
1 Heraldic Banner (ELD) 222
1 Spinning Wheel (ELD) 234
1 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
1 Arcane Signet (ELD) 331
1 Agonizing Remorse (STA) 24
1 Eat to Extinction (THB) 90
1 Shadowspear (THB) 236
1 Heartless Act (IKO) 91
1 Bloodchief's Thirst (ZNR) 94
1 Feed the Swarm (ZNR) 102
1 Malakir Rebirth (ZNR) 111
1 Scourge of the Skyclaves (ZNR) 122
1 Replicating Ring (KHM) 244
1 Ornithopter of Paradise (MH2) 232
1 Baleful Mastery (STX) 64
1 Lolth, Spider Queen (AFR) 112
1 Blood Pact (MID) 88
1 Infernal Grasp (MID) 107
1 The Meathook Massacre (MID) 112
1 The Celestus (MID) 252
1 Undying Malice (VOW) 134
1 Honored Heirloom (VOW) 257
1 Davriel, Soul Broker (J21) 15
1 Debt to the Kami (NEO) 92
1 Invoke Despair (NEO) 101
1 Junji, the Midnight Sky (NEO) 102
1 March of Wretched Sorrow (NEO) 111
1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire (NEO) 278
1 Key to the Archive (Y22) 59
1 Illicit Shipment (SNC) 83
1 Painful Bond (Y22) 12

 

[lukaszek]

PLAYHBG for packs

jumpstart got/will be? updated. To keep it more confusing, some old packs got changed, some even had rares replaced. One changed color from red to *hite!
best list I found, new packs are first: https://mtgazone.com/jump-in/

dont know when jumpstart changes are live

EDIT: jumpstart appears to be live, id say rng is busted and you get mythic options waaaay too often

 

[Kjaska]

Finally a theme that isn't completely ill-fitting.

I've put Tasha into my jank pile for waifu reasons and while her graveyard ability hasn't proven useful yet, she makes me feel very comfy against aggro decks.

 

[Ziggy]

played a whole lot over the last few days since the new was set released. thinking about Alchemy a bunch this fine morning made me feel like this guy

so, here are some random thoughts

limited

I had personally greatly enjoyed the AFR draft, despite it being right after Strixhaven, and despite its many problems: rakdos being better than everything else, no fixing (unless you're in rakdos, then you have all the treasure in the world), cards often being too simple and boring on one hand and then there's cumbersome and overwrought venture on the other, izzet dice-rolling tribal. This set feels like AFR but good. All those problems are gone. Rakdos is good but isn't insane, there's plenty of fixing and you can run three colors with no problem, cards are fun and interesting, the dice-rolling is only in a couple AFR reprints (off the top of my head it's just that red elemental, green vigilance lifegainer, and blue draw cards instant). Specialize mechanic felt like wordswordswords during previews but ended up being fairly intuitive once you play with it a couple times, and added more decision making. There are a few rares that are pretty much unbeatable, like The Hourglass Coven and Lae'zel, but it's not even as bad as Vow. Extremely good limited experience overall. But maybe I'm just happy over anything that isn't SNC.

constructed

Never thought I'd say this, but Alchemy been fun. Dipped into the weekend's metagame challenge and it was a good time. If they nerf Diviner of Fates, Cabaretti Revels, and tell whatever Hinata-fanboy that designed Snowborn Simulacra that he's now on permanent vacation, this format could even be good. It probably won't be. They didn't even reprint Ray of Enfeeblement into this set, so once the rotation hits it's going to be a miserable time.

rakdos aggro with 12 alchemy rares, all replacable

Deck
1 Karlach, Raging Tiefling (HBG) 14
1 Rahilda, Wanted Cutthroat (Y22) 42
2 Ob Nixilis, the Adversary (SNC) 206
4 Tiefling Outcasts (HBG) 61
4 Kumano Faces Kakkazan (NEO) 152
3 Graveyard Trespasser (MID) 104
4 Voltage Surge (NEO) 171
4 Fable of the Mirror-Breaker (NEO) 141
2 Mind Spike (HBG) 46
2 Black Market Connections (HBG) 145
4 Blightstep Pathway (KHM) 252
4 Haunted Ridge (MID) 263
4 Mountain (MID) 274
1 A-The Meathook Massacre (MID) 112
2 Den of the Bugbear (AFR) 254
2 Hive of the Eye Tyrant (AFR) 258
3 Ambergris, Citadel Agent (HBG) 12
1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire (NEO) 278
1 Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance (NEO) 276
1 Tenacious Underdog (SNC) 97
4 Bloodtithe Harvester (VOW) 232
1 Immersturm Skullcairn (KHM) 263
2 Shadowheart, Sharran Cleric (HBG) 10
3 Swamp (ANA) 6

Sideboard
1 Go Blank (STX) 72
2 Molten Impact (Y22) 22
2 Mind Spike (HBG) 46
2 Ray of Enfeeblement (AFR) 116
2 Infernal Grasp (MID) 107
2 Abrade (VOW) 139
2 Roiling Vortex (ZNR) 156
2 Soul Shatter (ZNR) 127

probably don't need both black market and fable, outcasts could be replaced with epicures, impact could be replaced with mephit's enthusiasm if instead of some of the three mana enchantments you run more creatures

hbrawl

RAKDOS IN EVERY FORMAT 2022

Commander
1 Prosper, Tome-Bound (HBG) 247

Deck
1 Leyline of the Void (M20) 107
1 Fable of the Mirror-Breaker (NEO) 141
11 Mountain (MIR) 346
1 Professional Face-Breaker (SNC) 116
1 Light Up the Stage (RNA) 107
1 Atsushi, the Blazing Sky (NEO) 134
1 Chandra, Torch of Defiance (KLR) 117
1 Chandra, Awakened Inferno (M20) 127
1 Urabrask, Heretic Praetor (SNC) 129
1 Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger (THB) 221
1 Florian, Voldaren Scion (MID) 223
1 Angrath's Rampage (WAR) 185
1 Mazemind Tome (M21) 232
1 Unlicensed Hearse (SNC) 246
1 Cling to Dust (THB) 87
1 Thoughtseize (AKR) 127
1 Tenacious Underdog (SNC) 97
1 Graveyard Trespasser (MID) 104
1 Murderous Rider (ELD) 97
1 Immersturm Skullcairn (KHM) 263
1 Professor Onyx (STX) 83
1 Erebos's Intervention (THB) 94
1 March of Wretched Sorrow (NEO) 111
1 Ramunap Ruins (AKR) 326
1 Angrath, the Flame-Chained (RIX) 152
1 Ob Nixilis, the Adversary (SNC) 206
1 Orcus, Prince of Undeath (AFR) 229
1 The Celestus (MID) 252
1 Bojuka Bog (WWK) 132
1 Barren Moor (ONS) 312
1 Castle Locthwain (ELD) 241
1 Hive of the Eye Tyrant (AFR) 258
1 Takenuma, Abandoned Mire (NEO) 278
1 Dark Ritual (STA) 26
1 Inquisition of Kozilek (STA) 31
1 Valki, God of Lies (KHM) 114
1 Soul Shatter (ZNR) 127
1 Citystalker Connoisseur (Y22) 27
1 Languish (JMP) 246
8 Swamp (ANA) 6
1 Den of the Bugbear (AFR) 254
1 Sokenzan, Crucible of Defiance (NEO) 276
1 Massacre Wurm (M21) 114
1 Magda, Brazen Outlaw (KHM) 142
1 Rahilda, Wanted Cutthroat (Y22) 42
1 Bonecrusher Giant (ELD) 115
1 Burn Down the House (MID) 131
1 A-Goldspan Dragon (KHM) 139
1 Inferno of the Star Mounts (AFR) 151
1 March of Reckless Joy (NEO) 154
1 Blightstep Pathway (KHM) 252
1 Haunted Ridge (MID) 263
1 Temple of Malice (THB) 247
1 Kolaghan's Command (DTK) 224
1 Bedevil (RNA) 157
1 Theater of Horrors (RNA) 213
1 Crawling Barrens (ZNR) 262
1 Reckoner Bankbuster (NEO) 255
1 Key to the Archive (Y22) 59
1 Coldsteel Heart (CSP) 136
1 Duress (STA) 29
1 Fatal Push (KLR) 84
1 Arcane Signet (ELD) 331
1 Replicating Ring (KHM) 244
1 Blood Crypt (RNA) 245
1 Bloodfell Caves (M20) 242
1 Tramway Station (SNC) 258
1 Sulfurous Mire (KHM) 270
1 Command Tower (ELD) 333
1 Black Market Connections (HBG) 145
1 Agadeem's Awakening (ZNR) 90
1 Pelakka Predation (ZNR) 120
1 Reckless Impulse (VOW) 174
1 Hidetsugu, Devouring Chaos (NEO) 99
1 Big Score (SNC) 102
1 Unexpected Windfall (AFR) 164
1 Oni-Cult Anvil (NEO) 230
1 Phyrexian Tower (JMP) 493
1 Xorn (AFR) 167
1 Kalain, Reclusive Painter (AFR) 225
1 Bank Job (Y22) 18
1 Nalfeshnee (HBG) 186

also that simic bear guy is kinda insane, hexproof just lets him do his thing and then on turn 5 you have at least 7 mana and a free card, and that free card is quite likely to be Nezahal

flavor

Who the fuck is Klement and why is he walking around with his belly out? Wizards, what the fuck is this?

Why do Red Wizards of Thay get a card and it isn't red? What the fuck is this Viconia art? Who thought that making Sarevok and Irenicus draft chaff is a good idea? Why would anyone think that naming a mechanic Double Team is a good idea? Why do we get Neera and Rasaad and not Dorn, the only good EE companion?
What's wrong with Black Market Connections? Are you paying some bootlegers with your life. That's fucking dumb. Could've called it something like "The Gift of Bhaal" and it would've been perfect. Foolish.
At least we're back to some fantasy stuff, I guess.
The worst part about the Specialize mechanic is that they skimped on the art. That stupid Klement guy gets special treatment, Lukamina is the coolest druid card to be ever printed (lol), and the blue Lae'zel is quite something. Everything else just slightly changes color. They must've ran out of time or something, or that was their fun way to show how little they care for Alchemy I guess.

tldr fun set, almost makes this whole alchemy thing worth it (not really, we could've had like Eldritch Moon remastered rn instead or smth).
check out the rares for your hbrawl decks at least

 

[lukaszek]

if you want to play with tasha before she is nerfed or put towards hell queue(although matchmaking appears to be broken)
I suggest you craft her now

 

[Kjaska]

Ah yes, the pointless UI update. A staple of every p2w online game nowadays.

 

[lukaszek]

lvd made oyasomething commander, add whelming waves and such and you finally got working sea critters themed deck
https://aetherhub.com/Deck/oyaminartok-polar-werebear-brawl

 

[Iskramor]

Any decent dimir control decklist for standard of pioneer?

 

[Alphard]

Damn, i have nothing better to do beside playing Nioh 2 (wich i can only play in short burst). I have redownoaded the game and have 19k gold. But i forgot everything about mechanics. What i should do? Buy wich packs? or hold until next expac (?) is released?

 

[lukaszek]

there is rotation next month, you should probably wait with spending until then AND play standard

 

[Alphard]

there is rotation next month, you should probably wait with spending until then AND play standard

how long standard rotation lasts?
it is worth to buy cards for standard since eventually they will become outdated?

 

[lukaszek]

how long standard rotation lasts?

rotation happens every year, cards are in standard for 2 rotations.

it is worth to buy cards for standard since eventually they will become outdated?

depending on your card pool you might not really have a choice...
If you amassed some wc perhaps historic brawl is doable

 

[anvi]

I hate this game.

 

[lukaszek]

community is better i h brawl, outside of try hard hell queue that is

 

[Kjaska]

I never play this game 100% focused, I always am either playing something else on the side or watching a video or reading something. This makes the constant waiting much more bearable and without it I would probably have uninstalled a long time ago.

They had a better solution in the old Planeswalker titles, where the player had to manually pause during the phase transitions, if they wanted to interject with an instant or an ability.

But who are we kidding, the team behind this is completely removed from player feedback and cares only for the word of the suits who tell them how much they have to milk the players for this month.

If a truly great iteration of this type of game is to ever come, it would have to be from a competitor.

 

[Alphard]

Btw is the drawing hand rigged? Sometimes it seems "random" draw (with like 2 lands and high level creatures). But when you mulligan a bad hand, it almost 100% gives you a good starting hand

 

[Kjaska]

The RNG implementation has been wonky ever since the old Planeswalker games. I run a giga-jank singleton 250 card deck and it will give me starting hands that look very similar on a regular basis.

 

[Dr1f7]

i think they admitted that the starting hand was rigged in BO1 but not in BO3

 

[His Dudeness]

Baldurs gate draft turned out to be pretty good.

 

[Scruffy]

StickTogether

 

[lukaszek]

for this gladiator cancer, I suggest you grab h brawl rat colonoscopy deck