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[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

yikes guys there's so much broken shit in these WAR spoilers kinda nuts.

Spoiler

Like, right now the meta is pick one of two extremes: total all in aggro decks or hyper no win-condition control decks. And rather than changing this up cards in this set literally just empower those archetypes. Either you win by turn 5 or you lose to teferi on turn 100

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[spectre]

If by cost you mean color screw, that's cause you're on one Overgrown Tomb. Even with 50:50 swamp/forest distribution, that still leaves you at the shuffler's mercy to get the right mix. Throw a bunch of guildgates and evolving wilds at it until it feels right or it will continue to happen.
Also, put some Memorials to Folly in there mang, it's a no-brainer combo with Molderhulk and Glowspore, and lets you re-do the LoL Giant combo kill.

Gravedigger is a weak card, I'd ditch it for something more interactive (discard, removal) and Biogenic Ooze doesn't seem to go along with any of your strategies.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[new fucking guy]

Yeah, this deck begs for some graveyard interaction. Or just Find/Finality in particular, it's a great card. That and chupacabras. Rhizome Lurcher, on the other hand, I think is close to unplayable. I only like him in pauper, where he goes over anything in the format.
Terrible draws are a common problem with GBx midrange decks, even with stuff like explore package. Don't get discouraged by that.

 

[spectre]

If you're having a problem with draws, a bunch of Dusk Legion Zealots often makes a black deck run much more smoothly, being a cheap cantrip. It's best if you can do something with the body afterwards, like sac to Plaguecrafters (seriously, if you want to play black just craft a bunch of those if you don't have them. They're great). On second thought, I think you should just add moar 'Crafters instead of Rhizome Luchers, perhaps decide who you love better - Gutterbones or AssSkeletons and make some cuts there to fit a few.
Then give the entire zombie/skeleton boosting package a long, hard think. It's fine if you go aggro... but you're not really aggro. I would experiment with Priest of the Forgotten Gods if you have any and if it looks like you've got the bodies to throw to it, because it does a number of things you might want - card draw and removal.

I can get behind Biogenic Ooze as the card that keeps shitting critters on the board, so if they don't pack mass removal they're pretty much screwed, just pointing out it's got no real synergy with the rest of your strategy.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Sooo, even though I'm very angery with the meta, I came up with this mill deck and have been running it in unranked:

Basically I got my 15 wins for the week without losing once. Am much proud

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Wew. WEW.

And then as a bonus, this card gets top marks for art. Actually wouldn't mind a print of it.

Spoiler

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Elderspell seems like an okay sideboard card maybe(?) but I can't imagine anyone running it in their main

that art on deliver is fuckin sweet tho too bad the card's trash

 

[Scruffy]

trash? it's a gifts ungiven

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

except it's sorcery speed and it gets exiled after use and it's black which already has mastermind's acquisition and a bunch of draw cards and I can't imagine anyone ever playing bolas cards outside of a meme deck

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Plaguecrafter]

"Destroy any number of planeswalkers" for two mana is pretty much all I wanted to see in a card. Anything else is just an added bonus.

 

[Jason Liang]

Finally a spell from WAR that I actually find cool.

 

[Scruffy]

holy shit
and in my favorite color combination!

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Scruffy]

doubt it

 

[new fucking guy]

Hey look it's green sun zenith but even more busted in standard.

 

[Jason Liang]

Hey look it's green sun zenith but even more busted in standard.

sigh even more busted ramp cards. Not sure this is better than an X = 10 Jellyfish though I suppose its hard to lose with a 17/17 haste trample hexproof death lizard. If Reclamation can cast X=10 Explosions they can cast this as well (with the Planeswalker that lets you cast sorceries as instants).

Fun in Vintage with Channel as well. Or Tron in modern.

 

[Scruffy]

busted? you have to get to 12 mana and it's counterable, come on

 

[Jason Liang]

busted? you have to get to 12 mana and it's counterable, come on

12 mana is not hard for a ramp deck right now
Explosion is counterable too and yet its still the goto finisher in these ramp decks

 

[new fucking guy]

screw casting it for 12 mana, you get to fetch anything from your deck. GSZ had the limitation of just green crits, this gets anything and fetches from graveyard too. Consider these:
- for 4 mana you get to fetch Fblthp and draw 2 cards, or Tomik or Lavinia to shut down some decks
- for 5 mana you can fetch Knight of Autumn, Deputy of Detention, Goblin Chainwhirler, Evolution Sage...
- for 7 mana you get to fetch yourself a god and have endless gas or just win outright with Rhonas, or there's Biogenic Ooze if you're fighting something uninteractive
- for 8 can get basically any wincon you'd like
- this is all trivial to do and fit in a bant shell
I honestly think this will be super fun to play with or against in standard, but it's so surprising they basically printed a card that's banned in modern but better.