Incline Monster Hunter World - G-rank edition. Now on PC.

[mogwaimon]

We know you don't like old MH games, that's fine and all though it feels out of place on a forum that revels in older games with a lack of polish. But do you really have to post your troll Reddit post like a badge of honor? It's fucking Reddit, for one, and for two everyone knows Monster Hunter controls like shit, everyone who's played on PSP can't shut up about how they had to do claw for 500-1000 hours or whatever and that hasn't really changed with it being on 3DS. It's just that no one cares since the game is great fun anyways. And yea I know you mean the in-game controls and not the hardware controller but still.

 

[DragoFireheart]

But do you really have to post your troll Reddit post like a badge of honor?

Yes.

Reddit is full of cucks and shills that would want nothing more than for America to die. Fuck them.


EDIT:

...it feels out of place on a forum that revels in older games with a lack of polish.

Older games also had more than acceptable controls or GUI.

Fallout 1 for example. Excellent GUI even if the combat is kinda lackluster. Being older does not excuse having bad controls or terrible game design elements.

 

[DragoFireheart]

mogwaimon

I give you free entertainment. Just enjoy it dont be a scrub.

 

[Blaine]

I might give IG a go.

I always wanted to invest in them but the insect was a turn off. You may have convinced me Blaine.

You get used to harvesting with the kinsect eventually. Just make sure to only create bugs with either very high speed and power, or alternately very high speed and heal if you want to de-emphasize the bug's incidental damage (which truly adds up, I feel) and heal off monster tails on the regular. Speed is the bug's literal speed whenever it's sent off to harvest or auto-attack, and if speed is low, you'll want to commit suicide because that fucking piece of shit will slowboat across the arena at about 2 KPH.

Two things to note: You don't have to call back the kinsect if you miss a harvest/harvest the wrong extract. You can tap light attack again and it'll move to your new reticle position and harvest from there instead. Also, try to gather red and white (preferably) or red and orange extracts only, then gather the third color a little while later. This helps to refresh, or at least somewhat refresh, the timer until all of your kinsect buffs wear off; once you have all three colors, that's it. They'll all wear off after a set time, even if you try to gather more extract. That being said, gathering extract refreshes the insect's stamina even if you don't need the extract, and can be a way to prolong its auto-attack mode (which uses up insect stamina) between actual buff-harvesting sessions.

Finally, don't worry too much about the auto-targeting mode/elemental contact clouds right away. Get used to harvesting and orienting/performing aerial combos first. That said, for the most part the auto-molest mode is fire and forget and takes only an extra split-second to do once you're used to it.

 

[DragoFireheart]

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[Blaine]

DragoFireheart I've been hard at work on /vg/ myself.

No one took the bait this time, proud of those kids.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Blaine look at my topic on reddit

eat your fucking heart out

 

[mogwaimon]

But do you really have to post your troll Reddit post like a badge of honor?

Yes.

Reddit is full of cucks and shills that would want nothing more than for America to die. Fuck them.

Exactly, fucking with Reddit is like pushing around an autistic kid, it's fun for you but everyone who sees it is gonna be like '...why?'

In regards to game elements, I never said that being an older game excuses poor execution, I was more getting at, you know, it can be enjoyed anyways. Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3 have avatars that control like tanks and no one really likes the controls but the games are still lauded as some of the best/essential of all time. Pretty much all of the classics that are held up on this site have some major flaws and yet people love the games anyways because they become accustomed to said flaws, likely because they put more than an hour into the games. I believe you've said in other topics that you've only put an hour into the MHGU demo before writing it off for bad graphics (Which is true for the time we live in but it is a 3DS port) and bad controls, which....I mean, I don't get it really, it's pretty much similar to MHW except in MHW you can finally dodge backwards?

Well, whatever, we all have our tastes but you still shouldn't feel proud of fucking with Reddit, they're morons.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Exactly, fucking with Reddit is like pushing around an autistic kid, it's fun for you but everyone who sees it is gonna be like '...why?'

For my amusement.

In regards to game elements, I never said that being an older game excuses poor execution, I was more getting at, you know, it can be enjoyed anyways. Resident Evil 1, 2, and 3 have avatars that control like tanks and no one really likes the controls but the games are still lauded as some of the best/essential of all time. Pretty much all of the classics that are held up on this site have some major flaws and yet people love the games anyways because they become accustomed to said flaws, likely because they put more than an hour into the games. I believe you've said in other topics that you've only put an hour into the MHGU demo before writing it off for bad graphics (Which is true for the time we live in but it is a 3DS port) and bad controls, which....I mean, I don't get it really, it's pretty much similar to MHW except in MHW you can finally dodge backwards

The controls are simply more fluid and intuitive in MHW. Even for the slow weapons.

I don't have the right words for it, but in my 20+ years in playing video games you learn when a game has good controls and when a game has shit controls. Like a game where you press Up on the D-Pad to jump. Shit like that.

Well, whatever, we all have our tastes but you still shouldn't feel proud of fucking with Reddit, they're morons.

It's not a matter of pride. It's like pissing off the girls in your history class: lol

 

[mogwaimon]

Pissing them off? Those girls are the ones you should be fucking with TBQH desu senpai.

Also up on the D-pad to jump is sacrilege for everything except fighting games.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Pissing them off? Those girls are the ones you should be fucking with TBQH desu senpai.

Exactly: you get them mad first, then you fuck them. Women are used to betas trying to please them: pissing them off confuses them.

And if it doesn't work? Oh well.

Also up on the D-pad to jump is sacrilege for everything except fighting games.

It always felt awkward even in fighting games but I won't go there...

 

[Damned Registrations]

Speed is the bug's literal speed whenever it's sent off to harvest or auto-attack, and if speed is low, you'll want to commit suicide because that fucking piece of shit will slowboat across the arena at about 2 KPH.

This explains why it seemed so clunky and shit when I initially tried it. I couldn't fathom how the fuck I was going to maintain the buffs and still have a decent amount of time to dish out damage when it took forever and had shit accuracy. Maybe I'll give it another try, but I still can't imagine it being a match for the dual swords' evasiveness or damage, it'd basically be a good way to go after tails without using a longsword or spear.

 

[Blaine]

You need to get more imaginative!

DragoFireheart's Jagras test was all fine and good, but it was actually biased against the IG due to the fact that I had to harvest extracts as an opener but finished the fight well before they expired. I also didn't send the kinsect to auto-attack and create clouds. A nearly-passive pseudo-DoT dealing 12 damage here, 10 damage there over the course of most of a fight really adds up (to well over 1,000, eventually), and contributes to sever and KO thresholds, depending on kinsect type. In addition, the clouds kinsects create can be struck to deal additional damage (again, depending on type), usually in the realm of 90-120 before the cloud expires.

As for mobility and evasiveness, the IG has tons of it, but largely aerial rather than ground-bound. How useful and "safe" this is varies from monster to monster. If done correctly, you can trash Vaal Hazak's wings (and at the end of the animation, its face) while it's doing its fart nova without taking a hit;, you can continue ripping up Xeno's wings when it does its blue crush explosion without taking a hit; and there are many other examples. When other players have no choice but to back away or get carted, you can flip and spin around like an asshole continuing to deal middling damage (it's substantially less than ground combos, but fast and constant) and triggering kinsect dust explosions. Absolutely no other weapon in the game can run a spinning riot up and down a flying dragon's body while it's fully aloft, for example.

Of course, you can pole-vault over, away from, or out of danger as well. No other weapon can do that, either, so unique tactical maneuvers are available to you.

If you play it for long enough, you'll begin to see what I mean. The mounting aspect of it is of minimal interest to me, actually, although of course mounting is useful in its own right.

 

[Damned Registrations]

My measure of evasiveness is how late you can react to something and still get away unscathed, by that metric, the demon mode 'roll' is practically teleportation, and the insect glaive vault and the longsword's foresight slash are so slow you may as well sheathe and superman dive.

Consistent damage is certainly a plus (it's what I like about the lance more than anything else) but it's of niche usefulness, while short notice evasion and high burst damage are useful in every fight.

 

[Blaine]

My measure of evasiveness is how late you can react to something and still get away unscathed, by that metric, the demon mode 'roll' is practically teleportation, and the insect glaive vault and the longsword's foresight slash are so slow you may as well sheathe and superman dive.

Consistent damage is certainly a plus (it's what I like about the lance more than anything else) but it's of niche usefulness, while short notice evasion and high burst damage are useful in every fight.

Well, everyone has a different playstyle. It's worth noting however that IG can function just fine without Wiggly Litchis, Dash Juice, pig hat, or any stamina-saving armor skills whatsoever, although aerial combos benefit from them substantially. Furthermore, IG can easily take advantage of skills that rely on a full stamina bar during ground combos, whereas DBs in Not Garbage Mode can't. This is a textbook example of greater versatility. One way or another, you're chained to stamina with DBs, and combating rapid stamina depletion for any prolonged length of time is a significant sacrifice in skill slots and/or consumables.
On a different note, I've just assembled the unironically and objectively best armor set in the game.

 

[Blaine]

Finally managed to build a fairly decent bowgun: The Gluttonous Fangcannon. Most of the good HBGs aren't available yet, and the superior Spread HBGs aren't, but this will do in the meantime.

Man, the shielded HBG/Palico Rally/Meowlotov Cocktail/Cluster Bomb meme is real. It took me barely more than 10 minutes to beat Nerg with this shit, broke both horns, and I had 0 experience with the weapon at that point outside of training. I even wandered around grabbing tracks and shit for more investigations. I can easily see getting the completion time down to a tasty 8m, before endgame augmentation or any particularly OP jewel/gear min-maxing.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Blaine

Give the Blazooka a try (Diablos HBG): you can spam Wyvern Fires and you get the best Wyvern Snipe in the game.

Not quite as amazing as cluster bombs but it's satisfying.

 

[Blaine]

Fuck me, I'm still having trouble with Black Diablos. I can never finish an entire run without exactly one hit -> stun -> hit -> cart.

I use the Legia Snowfletcher because both types of Diablos are among the very few monsters very weak to ice, it's very easy position and land shots on their weak points, and its synergy with the Legiana Set's Ice Attack and Bow Charge Plus set bonus is very strong.

I never have trouble screaming or dodging its tunneling attacks, but Black Diablos' auto-tracking 0-60 in .06 seconds raging bull charge is a different matter entirely. Supermanning is only an option if I can get my weapon put away in time, and that's almost never possible due to animation lock and sheathing time, even if I anticipate a bit. Funnily enough, I think I'm starting to find that trotting toward Black Diablos at a diagonal and then rolling diagonally toward/past as it charges is the safest option. Flash pods aren't an option to halt the charges either, because like supermanning, that would require sheathing my weapon.

Evade Extender would probably be an ideal addition, and boots are a very swappable slot in this build, but that comes from the Black Diablos boots... which I can probably make fairly soon, but relying on armor skills annoys me. Guess I can look into Quick Sheathe as well.

Blaine

Give the Blazooka a try (Diablos HBG): you can spam Wyvern Fires and you get the best Wyvern Snipe in the game.

Not quite as amazing as cluster bombs but it's satisfying.

Yeah I saw that that's supposed to be good from that guy's video, but that'll take a bit of farming, and I have visions of the monster turning around at the last second and the Wyvernsnipe doing trash damage, which is the sort of thing that results in me three-finger death-punching my (fortunately extremely hardy, it's a Filco) WASD on my keyboard in a fit of rage.

 

[Lazing Dirk]

I can never stop reading that as Snowfelcher

 

[Damned Registrations]

So I noticed yesterday one of the events was offering up a unique item I can't get elsewhere- are there a bunch of other event quests like this? Should I do all of them, or are there just a few to worry about?

 

[mogwaimon]

This week I think it's just the wiggler head, but yes there will be plenty of others

EDIT: should probably point out that if you're not interested in purely cosmetic items, the events for Dante's armor (the legs and charge blade in particular), the events for the Wyvern Ignition GS, and the arch-tempered elders are probably good things to watch out for as they all offer equipment that may actually be used in the meta or are otherwise useful. As far as I know everything else is just for fun.

Oh, and Kulve Taroth has some great weapons too, forgot he's on a timed basis but he won't be around for a bit.

 

[Mortmal]

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It's great drago, most of the stuff i post on reddit subforums get massively downvoted or censored by mods too. That shows you are not pleb , can think by yourself and will likely ends up much more wealthy than the average joe someday.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Fuck me, I'm still having trouble with Black Diablos. I can never finish an entire run without exactly one hit -> stun -> hit -> cart.

I use the Legia Snowfletcher because both types of Diablos are among the very few monsters very weak to ice, it's very easy position and land shots on their weak points, and its synergy with the Legiana Set's Ice Attack and Bow Charge Plus set bonus is very strong.

I never have trouble screaming or dodging its tunneling attacks, but Black Diablos' auto-tracking 0-60 in .06 seconds raging bull charge is a different matter entirely. Supermanning is only an option if I can get my weapon put away in time, and that's almost never possible due to animation lock and sheathing time, even if I anticipate a bit. Funnily enough, I think I'm starting to find that trotting toward Black Diablos at a diagonal and then rolling diagonally toward/past as it charges is the safest option. Flash pods aren't an option to halt the charges either, because like supermanning, that would require sheathing my weapon.

Evade Extender would probably be an ideal addition, and boots are a very swappable slot in this build, but that comes from the Black Diablos boots... which I can probably make fairly soon, but relying on armor skills annoys me. Guess I can look into Quick Sheathe as well.

Get the Ice Sns and just block Diablos attacks: the basic shield is good enough even for the underground attacks.

I was never a fan of ranged weapons against Diablos monsters: too easy for them to charge into you.

 

[Blaine]

We beat Tempered Kirin on the second try with no faints. Bit tedious with just two people and retarded cats that mostly stood right next to us being useless, but it was satisfying blasting that blue fuck with the HBG. He loves to stand around in one spot performing his obnoxious lightning bullshit, which provides plenty of opportunities for cluster bomb shellings.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Lets see.... Blaine has/had issues with Diablos monsters and doesn't like LBG too much.

It's time to troll!

Spoiler

You could probably use some Ice LBG if you only have the base game.