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Myth: A New Age CYOA

Discussion in 'Choose Your Own Adventure Land' started by Fangshi, Jan 15, 2014.

  1. Nevill Arcane

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    I would advise against spreading our efforts too thin, because of this:
    Lyssa can handle the foci on her own, but she is also required for animal cooperation, as she is the only one who can speak with them. By pursuing both goals at once we might not succeed in either.
     
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  2. Fangshi Arcane

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    Well keeping everyone in a chariot would help prevent the Shades from easily reaching you though your opponents will still have an easier time crossing rough and impassable terrain.

    You might be able to come up with something though your Pathfinders are already quite stretched.

    Current Tally:

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    archaen:
    1.Ai, 2.A, 3.ABD

    Azira:
    1.Aii, 2.A, 3.BDE

    Nevill:
    1.Aii 2.A 3.BD

    Absinthe:
    1.D, 2.C, 3.ABD

    Grimgravy:
    1.B>Aii, 2.A, 3.BDE

    Jester:
    1.E, 2.C, 3.ABD

    Kz3r0:
    1.Aii, 2.C, 3.ABD

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    ii. 3 votes
    B) 1 vote
    C)
    D) 1 vote
    E) 1 vote

    2.
    A) 4 votes
    B)
    C) 3 votes

    3.
    A) 4/7 votes
    B) 7/7 votes
    C)
    D) 7/7 votes
    E) 2/7 votes
     
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  3. Nevill Arcane

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    Hm. So theoretically, it could be possible to do a retreat with these forces:

    Derryth, Thais, Lyssa, Uttu, Ceannard, Neel, Bari, Astrid, Ori, Stori, Alvis and a spare chariot with an unnamed archer. 12 people in total, not counting the drivers.

    The mortar team should be able to provide us with a smoke screen when we really need it if the enemy catches up with us on a winding path.

    Anyone wants to try it? We can probably swap some of the melee-oriented Pathfinders with the archers.

    I propose Aiii - instead of rigging the trap mechanism we use our extra time to set up an appearance of us trying to blow the place up from the outside and failing to do so due to the lack of time, leaving an 'obvious' trap for enemy to disarm to lull them into a false sense of security while they are oblivious to the real one.

    We send our slower forces ahead, and then withdraw on the chariots, trying to wreac havoc among the pursuers and inflict as much damage as possible.

    It trades away the difficulty the enemy might have with dismantling our trap if they discover it in favor of our trap being less apparent and better hidden.

    Since the initial trap only activates when someone casts a spell, it has a bigger likelihood to blow up a mage - or a group of mages, as it may be.

    I'll go with Aiii>Aii A BD.
     
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  4. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Sort of like a medieval cannonball run? Count me in. Berty is the perfect Captain Chaos. :salute:
     
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  5. Grimgravy Augur Patron

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    I'll add a conditional to my 1. vote. 1D>Aii
    But I want to learn from the the diary not cover it in lead.
     
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  6. Nevill Arcane

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    Fangshi, who can we expect to catch in our trap with Aii if it is found? Who in the undead army would be proficient enough to try and dismantle the trap or otherwise tamper with it? I would assume the mindless undead would not have the skill to do it. So that leaves us... ghols? Shades?

    Are Soulless more vulnerable to the Strong Wind than the ground forces, seeing how they are floaing and there is no friction to help them steady themselves? Can we blow them off the ridge?
     
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  7. Absinthe Prophet

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    Fangshi, lets not do the rolling retreat then, given that the Watcher's army is sure to just order a reckless charge on our forces (attack attack attack is all they do really) with their massive hordes and eventually that will screw us over if they can just outrun us. Just leave 1D as is for now.

    Also, Nevill, your illusion plan is too risky. I mean, we don't even know if illusions will work on those archmages. Plus the enemy will still be faster than us on the rolling retreat, so it's not looking pretty there. Frankly, I like 1D the best since we still get to wreak some fast havoc on the enemy (Fangshi, lets make sure to burn through a lot of cubes for a rapid high-power barrage for the short duration that we are attacking.) but we also get to guarantee that the enemy will not get control of the base since it will be destroyed.

    However, for Aii I agree that we should immediately evacuate everyone who would go on foot and just leave chariots for a much quicker escape.
     
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  8. Nevill Arcane

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    Who said it has to be an illusion? I certainly didn't. It is as mechanical in nature as Aii - we make an appearance of rigging the hut, then when we are ready to retreat, one of the fuses 'malfunctions' (it's one way it could be handled), leaving the place standing. They know we have tampered with the place, but the results of our tampering are in plain sight.

    I don't really trust Bari in magical matters (the suggestion to use a tree as a staff came from him), so I don't want to waste our resources on a long shot.

    What goes into the pedestal? The mages themselves? Some artefacts? Live sacrifices? We don't know.

    I especially don't want to burn through cubes if I have no idea when (or if) the next batch of supplies comes and with a long siege ahead of us.

    All I want is to blow up the building - hopefully, with some mages in it.

    If we get on the chariots, we may still outrun enemy mages, so there is that. Mindless undead like Soulless we can likely outmaneuver.
     
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  9. Nevill Arcane

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    Eh, I feel lucky today. Here is another proposition for a trap.

    Aiv - rig the place and use something unique as a detonator/trigger placed on top of the hut. If the trigger is removed, the place explodes. Once we get away, we keep an eye on the hut. If a mage enters it, we cast Retrieve Item on the detonator. There is a line of sight, and we have a spyglass.

    Are there downsides to this plan?
     
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  10. Azira Arcane Patron

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    We constantly need to monitor the place, so yeah, there's that. If for some reason trees or other shit gets into the LoS, the trap's ruined.

    Keep it simple. If there really is a thing as a magic-o-meter which will trigger once a spell is cast, great! If not, rig it to weight? Too many variables will screw us over.
     
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  11. Nevill Arcane

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    The fort is on a montain, though, and we will be heading up. I don't know if LoS will be a concern.

    Just another idea, is all.
     
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  12. Fangshi Arcane

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    You have no idea what you will catch if anything. Presumably mindless undead will not be able to use the structure so if it is fired then you will likely kill mages, beyond that though you know nothing.

    They are easier to push but since they float they won't really fall down. They will just slide around on the air currents.

    Sure. It will stay as is.

    Added Aiii and Aiv.

    Current Tally:

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    archaen:
    1.Ai, 2.C, 3.ABD

    Azira:
    1.Aiii, 2.A, 3.BDE

    Nevill:
    1.Aiii>Aii 2.A 3.BD

    Absinthe:
    1.D, 2.C, 3.ABD

    Grimgravy:
    1.D>Aii, 2.A, 3.BDE

    Jester:
    1.E, 2.C, 3.ABD

    Kz3r0:
    1.Aii, 2.C, 3.ABD

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    ii. 1 (3) vote(s)
    iii. 2 votes
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    D) 2 votes
    E) 1 vote

    2.
    A) 3 votes
    B)
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    3.
    A) 4/7 votes
    B) 7/7 votes
    C)
    D) 7/7 votes
    E) 2/7 votes
     
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  13. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    I'll flop to 2C if we put the book in a box and then cover it with lead instead of it being a stealth 2B. +M
     
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  14. Nevill Arcane

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    When did the lead become the all-powerful element that does everything? Much like in real life, the lead only blocks radiation (and therefore, some of the signals). It does not have magical or anti-magical properties... or at least we don't know if it does.

    The Watcher's stones serve as a channel to the archmage's consciousness, so there was merit in trying to block the connection.

    This time, though, I think we are overdoing it. Not that I mind. I just find it funny. :M

    I wonder if tin foil would work for the same purposes. :D

    [​IMG]
     
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  15. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    I was just worried that the TWM is using it as a phylactery or a gate/scrying focus. If it is the first he is reincarnating in the fort unless we destroy it. If he can use it for the latter than we can try to block it with the lead box so all he can see is darkness or can't get a good end point.
     
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  16. Nevill Arcane

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    Yeah, a scrying focus or a trap spell that would activate on command, that I might believe in. A phylactery, though, is stretching it.

    I'd put it in the box, rig it with a bomb it case anything tries to open it, warn everyone not to open it, and put in somewhere safe, like the treasury. That should take care of most of the threats.

    You might want to clarify your vote. You are counted as Aiii because of an earlier remark. :)

    Is everyone in agreement how the retreat should be conducted if we go with any of the A options?
     
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  17. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    If no one else minds I'd like to add those steps to 2C.
     
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  18. Absinthe Prophet

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    Sure. I have no objection to this. I don't think any of the other C voters would, either.

    Nevill, as for Aiii, I am still opposed to the rolling retreat. It's been established by now that the watcher's army is just going to charge into us suicidally, they can outrun us, and they definitely outnumber us, so this seems too dangerous for comfort to me.

    Fangshi, I'd like to set up 1D so that we send the slower forces ahead while we do this and leave chariots for our own small crew that's going to cast/detonate/gtfo.
     
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  19. Nevill Arcane

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    Where and when did we establish anything of a kind? Not a word have been said on what the Watcher's army is going to do.

    And it looks like we are going with Aii for now, so dangerous or not, we should think how we want to play this. Besides, we've already told the Pathfinders to mine some of the passages.

    They can't outrun the chariots. They can try and ambush them due to their floating abilities, but they can't outrun them.

    Why do we need lead at all in this case? :)

    The fort has only so much lead to scavenge.
     
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  20. Fangshi Arcane

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    Sure, I can add that change.

    I can certainly make those changes if no one objects.

    I will also need to know whether or not everyone still wants it to be a lead box.
     
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  21. archaen Arbiter Patron

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    I'm still up for a lead box if we have enough left over from covering the staff. The staff is way more important to have the lead shielding if we have to choose.
     
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  22. Nevill Arcane

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    Once again I'll have to ask everyone who is voting for a 'trap' plan (either directly, or as a secondary vote) that has us risk engaging the enemy vanguard to clarify how they see our retreat - as a whole unit, as two separate teams assisted by the chariots, or as a single team mounted on the chariots with the caveat that we send some of the forces ahead.

    As we are outnumbered 40 to 1 with archmages and whatnot, this question appears to be very relevant.

    Grimgravy, Azira, Kz3r0 - any thoughts on the matter?

    Perhaps this might even be a separate choice, seeing how some of the other voters expressed interest in this topic as well, even though their options are less time sensitive.
     
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  23. Kz3r0 Arcane

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    As a single team mounted on the chariots with the caveat that we send some of the forces ahead.
    In fact, trap the 'magic cannon' and get the fuck away from there.
     
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  24. Azira Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, trap the structure, then get the fuck out of dodge at maximum speed.
     
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  25. Fangshi Arcane

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    Alright, as long as there is no opposition you will cover the box in lead provided there is enough remaining lead.

    If there is a difference in opinion on how to do the withdrawal then I will add another question and bump the update back by a day to give everyone time to vote.

    If everyone agrees on how to retreat then it should not be necessary and I will close the voting in about twelve hours. If I do then an update will come within sixteen hours of that.
     
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