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Oblivion codex update

Lumpy

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Twinfalls said:
Unarmoured skill is still there. And shutup about Fable you cocksucker.
No, it's not.
Unarmored is under Acrobatics.
And Mages have the Shield spell.
 

Twinfalls

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AnalogKid said:
This has to be the "kooky but lovable" fuckup ala Gilligan having hilarious misadventures while trying to design and promote a "revolutionary" game who's only apparent revolution is the wholesale removal of almost all noticeable features.

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Fresh

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Balor said:
Yet an other funny thing - 'merchanitle' is under 'Stealth'.
But of course, you'll get best wares by creepting to the vendor from behind and shouting into his ear:
"How much is the fish!!?" :D

hahaha

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About the trap-skill being removed personally I couldn't care less. I've never bothered using the trap-skill in any game. I'd rather see they they'd use traps in some sort of adventury sense, with the player being the one solving the problem/figuring out how to avoid/use the trap.
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OverrideB1

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!HyPeRbOy!
With the removal of any ability to detect traps, we can only assume that there are no trapped locks in the game (another "balancing of the gameplay"?) and only swinging log and rolling stone type traps where there's fuck all skill involved in spotting them and you deal with them in a dumb-as-a-plank manner by triggering them with the whizzy new and improved bows with the new and improved sniper-zooming ability-perk. Whoopie-fucking-doo.

I can see it now - TES V: "fuck all to do but look at the pretty graphics - but trust us, it's balanced"

Maybe I should search the bottom of my garden for the Fable CD - which is looking more and more like an RPG tour-de-force in comparison each time Bethesda make a triumphant press-release.
 

Twinfalls

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HaWTT!

Thing is, with the new one-mesh-for-all-races 'feature', Oblivion Argonians are actually going to look like that.

Disturbing.

@FrancK: Wups - my mistake, unarmoured is indeed gone. Oh well, guess we'll have to use our player skills to manually dodge cos THATS ROLLPLAYING
 

Section8

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Repost those without the "Asian Shemales Logo" emblazoned prominently and that would be so much funnier.
 

obediah

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Well I had to some witty banter to respond with, but I can't top an asian he-she - so I'll wait to page 3.
 

GhanBuriGhan

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Porn and idiotism, the Codex is at it again. I am reading this at work, it would be nice if you could keep the pictures out. Keep it to links, if you HAVE to be infantile.

As to the update: Levitation may be out or not: that list is not comprehensive and e.g. the effect was not listed in the skill description in the MW manual either. So hold your horses for a bit longer or you may look foolish in the end. The only concrete info so far is that we cannot levitate over city walls.

As to traps- come on, the way it worked in MW was lame. The way it worked in any other RPG I played was lame. Krondor: "navigate the hoops". Baldurs Gate: run in trap, die. Reload. Wipe the mouse over the screen until the trap lights up, disarm. Diablo: watch for notch on wall. Or: die. reload, time movement to avoid trap.
This is something that should be moved to the players skill -although some sensing scheme would MAYBE be nice: Just a skill dependent message: Low level security: "A trap is near". Medium level security "A spear trap is ahead". high level: "A spear trap is 50 feet to the northeast, the trigger is a tripwire". But the disarming I'd rather handle myself.
 

Twinfalls

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GhanBuriGhan said:
As to traps- come on, the way it worked in MW was lame.

Right. So they should be removed, not improved. Have Bethesda hired you recently, Ghan?

This is something that should be moved to the players skill

No. This is not just a 'traps have been moved to player skill'. This is traps being removed. What's there now may be all fun and cool, but why remove small traps on chests, doors, etc, and disarming them as a stealth skill?

GhanBuriGhan said:
Porn and idiotism, the Codex is at it again. I am reading this at work, it would be nice if you could keep the pictures out. Keep it to links, if you HAVE to be infantile.

http://www.dans-porn-links.com/free/nau ... e/golf.jpg
http://smokinmka.com/Porn/Funnies/images/GOLF.jpg

Well you did say keep it to links...
 

Fresh

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CMON GUYS STOP IT WITH THE PRON AND IDIOTISM MMKAY?! Ghan is being embarrased when reading the forum at work. Also his mother might walk in and then he'd be in real trouble.
 

ExMonk

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Twinfalls said:
Right. So they should be removed, not improved. Have Bethesda hired you recently, Ghan?

Well you did say keep it to links...

Right, because if anyone defends Beth, ever, they are mindless toadies working for the establishment. Critics of Beth = totally objective. Defenders of Beth = totally unobjective and lacking any credibility.

As for the golf picture, Twinfalls: snigger, snigger, snort, snort. Hey, Twinfalls! Can we look at the Playboy mags that your dad has under his bed? :roll:
 

obediah

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I could do without the porn as well, too, also. I spend 95% of my work time browsing these threads, and while my font is small enough that no one will notice the trash you vulgar shit-bag motherfuckers type, I doubt anyone will miss a chick with a dick.
 

ExMonk

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!HyPeRbOy! said:
CMON GUYS STOP IT WITH THE PRON AND IDIOTISM MMKAY?! Ghan is being embarrased when reading the forum at work. Also his mother might walk in and then he'd be in real trouble.

If only we could all be as grown up, cool, mature, and "Look at me, I don't live at home anymore!" as you, hyperBOY
 

GhanBuriGhan

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Twinfalls said:
GhanBuriGhan said:
As to traps- come on, the way it worked in MW was lame.

Right. So they should be removed, not improved. Have Bethesda hired you recently, Ghan?

This is something that should be moved to the players skill

No. This is not just a 'traps have been moved to player skill'. This is traps being removed. What's there now may be all fun and cool, but why remove small traps on chests, doors, etc, and disarming them as a stealth skill?
So having actually working physics and magic based traps that you can trigger using real-workd physics, etc. instead of self-advertising "reomove by skillroll" lock-traps is "removing traps"? That's a pretty breathtaking leap of faith even for a stat-loving codexer. I have never seen a stat based trap detection and disarming system really work in a RPG, as I have stated above- "work" as in being fun and interesting. Sure you could "improve" them the codex way, which I assume would involve a skill-roll, to detect the trap, different skillroll to try to disarm it, and a chance to set them off accidentally, right? While that might be better than what MW had, but I prefer the way they did it - actually one of the things I most look forward to in Oblivion.

GhanBuriGhan said:
Porn and idiotism, the Codex is at it again. I am reading this at work, it would be nice if you could keep the pictures out. Keep it to links, if you HAVE to be infantile.
Well you did say keep it to links...
And as to the pic: Can I take a 5 iron for a hole in one up yours?
 

Twinfalls

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ExMonk said:
Right, because if anyone defends Beth, ever, they are mindless toadies working for the establishment. Critics of Beth = totally objective. Defenders of Beth = totally unobjective and lacking any credibility.

You really don't have any idea how breathtakingly your own criticisms undermine themselves, do you?

As for the golf picture, Twinfalls: snigger, snigger, snort, snort. Hey, Twinfalls! Can we look at the Playboy mags that your dad has under his bed? :roll:

You could if he had any. He only jerks off to an old semen-encrusted bible. Some of the stickier pages include:

Song of Solomon
Chapter 1


1. The song of songs, which is Solomon's.
2. Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is
3. better than wine. Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as
4. ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee. Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into
5. his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee. I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents
6. of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked
7. upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept. Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where
8. thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions? If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by
9. the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents. I have compared thee, O my love, to a company of horses in
10. Pharaoh's chariots. Thy cheeks are comely with rows of jewels, thy neck with chains
11. of gold. We will make thee borders of gold with studs of silver.
12. While the king sitteth at his table, my spikenard sendeth forth
13. the smell thereof. A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all
14. night betwixt my breasts. My beloved is unto me as a cluster of camphire in the vineyards
15. of Engedi. Behold, thou art fair, my love; behold, thou art fair; thou hast
16. doves' eyes. Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed
17. is green. The beams of our house are cedar, and our rafters of fir.


and

The Book of Ezekiel, Chapter 16
I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.

Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine.
 

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