Obsidian General Discussion Thread

[Roguey]

"What we want to make" - Skyrim clone, some multiplayer thing, definitely not an historical RPG.

 

[Sentinel]

"Recently acquired studio accuses parent company of tyranical management, regrets buyout"
- Thing that never happened

 

[DalekFlay]

I have to call bullshit, no way Microsoft would buy them without a big AAA exclusive planned. They might have a lot of latitude about the themes and setting of that game, but you could never convince me MS would let them just make stuff like Tyranny and PoE2 forever.

They could ALSO do smaller stuff though, so one wonders if PoE3 is a side project or if they're taking PoE to Skyrim town.

 

[Sailor Woedica]

Why make an isometric game when you have the unlimited budget to make a first person fantasy!!!

 

[Infinitron]

Finally on YouTube:

 

[Jenkem]

 

[vortex]

"Recently acquired studio accuses parent company of tyranical management, regrets buyout"
- Thing that never happened

I have to call bullshit, no way Microsoft would buy them without a big AAA exclusive planned. They might have a lot of latitude about the themes and setting of that game, but you could never convince me MS would let them just make stuff like Tyranny and PoE2 forever.

They could ALSO do smaller stuff though, so one wonders if PoE3 is a side project or if they're taking PoE to Skyrim town.

They'll probably have various projects along poe3 which will be more open-ended RPG like D:OS2. They even end up doing some immersive sims like Deus-Ex. They almost did made Deus EX: Human Revolution sequel before it was cancelled.

 

[Flou]

They are looking for a Senior Character Animator: https://www.obsidian.net/jobs/open-positions/animation/1113-senior-character-animator

• Experience animating first-person melee combat.
• Exceptional skills animating humanoids and creatures.
• Familiarity with Unreal Engine 4.

 

[Wunderbar]

Experience animating first-person melee combat.

skyrim clone is happening

 

[Molina]

Experience animating first-person melee combat.

skyrim clone is happening

10 years later...

 

[Roguey]

Josh definitely isn't involved if they're doing first person melee.

 

[Wunderbar]

Josh definitely isn't involved if they're doing first person melee.

why?

 

[Roguey]

Josh definitely isn't involved if they're doing first person melee.

why?

I feel that a 1st person perspective will always handicap melee. The biggest problems are low situational awareness (due to the proximity of enemies and the limitations of FoV -- in fact the DMoMM designer admitted that enemies effectively hold back when out of view to deal with this problem), poor readability of your own character's attacks (for the same reason), and poor depth perception (a DMoMM designer admitted that their hit detection effectively "cheats" to help the player).

I sort of view first-person melee like turbine-powered motorcycles. You can make a well-executed turbine-powered motorcycle. Unfortunately, turbines are poorly suited for the sort of use that motorcycles actually see in most applications. DMoMM was the most viscerally satisfying first-person melee I've seen yet, but I found it frustrating to actually play.

Of course Fairfax can post a badgame quote where he admits he's bad at them.

 

[Wunderbar]

Josh definitely isn't involved if they're doing first person melee.

why?

I feel that a 1st person perspective will always handicap melee. The biggest problems are low situational awareness (due to the proximity of enemies and the limitations of FoV -- in fact the DMoMM designer admitted that enemies effectively hold back when out of view to deal with this problem), poor readability of your own character's attacks (for the same reason), and poor depth perception (a DMoMM designer admitted that their hit detection effectively "cheats" to help the player).

I sort of view first-person melee like turbine-powered motorcycles. You can make a well-executed turbine-powered motorcycle. Unfortunately, turbines are poorly suited for the sort of use that motorcycles actually see in most applications. DMoMM was the most viscerally satisfying first-person melee I've seen yet, but I found it frustrating to actually play.

what if Sawyer is like "challenge accepted"?

 

[Cross]

Josh definitely isn't involved if they're doing first person melee.

why?

I feel that a 1st person perspective will always handicap melee. The biggest problems are low situational awareness (due to the proximity of enemies and the limitations of FoV -- in fact the DMoMM designer admitted that enemies effectively hold back when out of view to deal with this problem), poor readability of your own character's attacks (for the same reason), and poor depth perception (a DMoMM designer admitted that their hit detection effectively "cheats" to help the player).

I sort of view first-person melee like turbine-powered motorcycles. You can make a well-executed turbine-powered motorcycle. Unfortunately, turbines are poorly suited for the sort of use that motorcycles actually see in most applications. DMoMM was the most viscerally satisfying first-person melee I've seen yet, but I found it frustrating to actually play.

Of course Fairfax can post a badgame quote where he admits he's bad at them.

So let me get this straight:

He says he found Dark Messiah "frustrating to actually play".

But he also has a billion hours in Skyrim, a first-person RPG with vastly inferior melee combat, ranged combat, stealth, magic and pretty much anything gameplay-related compared to Dark Messiah.

 

[Infinitron]

You probably haven't been here long enough to know that Roguey puts way too much stock in ancient quotes drudged up from the archives.

BTW in the Digital Dragons talk Josh says he's still not working on any particular project atm.

 

[Wunderbar]

But he also has a billion hours in Skyrim, a first-person RPG with vastly inferior melee combat, ranged combat, stealth, magic and pretty much anything gameplay-related compared to Dark Messiah.

he played it was for research

 

[Volrath]

You probably haven't been here long enough to know that Roguey puts way too much stock in ancient quotes drudged up from the archives.

BTW in the Digital Dragons talk Josh says he's still not working on any particular project atm.

So he's basically become Obshitian's new MCA?

 

[Quillon]

Its no secret we're much more aware IRL than in FPP in games, even ArmA devs were considering adding a compass(from shacktaq UI mod) which showed nearby soldiers who are around/behind the player to compensate, don't know if they kept it tho.

But he also has a billion hours in Skyrim, a first-person RPG with vastly inferior melee combat, ranged combat, stealth, magic and pretty much anything gameplay-related compared to Dark Messiah.

He avoids melee combat with always playing a stealth archer, as every normal person would do.

 

[Fairfax]

Of course Fairfax can post a badgame quote where he admits he's bad at them.

Also:

i’m insanely bad at this game but lmaoed when a guy taunted me w/ the arms wide open pose and i killed him mid pose with a throwing axe.

i'm still in the 1:2 k:d range

It seems likely that he's working on it, though. He's worked on things he liked much less, and Obsidian's Skyrim would certainly have a third-person view anyway. Plus it's a chance to deliver a hit again and restore his reputation with the owners division directors.

 

[StrongBelwas]

The Outer Worlds hasn't, so I doubt that.

That's a budget problem, which in theory ObsdiRim wouldn't have (And given how many people are upset there is no third-person view in TOW or Cyberpunk 2077, it would be on the top of the list.)

 

[Bohr]

The PoE Dream Team - What Are They Doing Now?

Chapter 1: Lisa Heidhoff

 

[Mikeal]

Allright lads which one of you wrote this?

Thank God Microsoft bought these people out.
Have a free rant. How can you actually go from making one of the greatest games in the history of man to this?

Kickstarted some of the worst games I've ever played, brought shame to the isometric genre with some of the most boring quests I've ever seen and gary-sue characters, shoehorned wayyy to much fat disgusting characters making each game uglier than the next, writing in every game is a large wall of text that clearly didn't go through an editor, and piggybacking on baldur's gate to sell to fans of a cult classic you will never be able to top.

Most games might as well be abandonware considering the bugs these guys never got around to fixing and obviously never will.

Hopefully Microsoft will imprison them into publisher slavery where these people belong.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/362960/discussions/0/1638661595048057516/

 

[Tom Selleck]

Spoiler

we wuz kangz

 

[Outlander]

Obsidian could do the next Deus Ex game.