Obsidian General Discussion Thread

[Outlander]

Who then? Obsidian at least did New Vegas.

 

[Nano]

Who then? Obsidian at least did New Vegas.

Eidos Montreal did a good job with the previous nu-Deus Ex games. No reason for them not to do the next one.

 

[Roguey]

I recall that Obsidian actually did try to do a slam dunk sequel (or some kind of contract work?) to Human Revolution (they even brought in JES to play test), but those plans fell through. Not happening now with Microsoft.

 

[Flou]

I recall that Obsidian actually did try to do a slam dunk sequel (or some kind of contract work?) to Human Revolution (they even brought in JES to play test), but those plans fell through. Not happening now with Microsoft.

Didn't that have something do with Thief failing badly, so they gave the project to their own team, since they would not be doing any work on Thief franchise.

 

[Fairfax]

According to Feargus, SE wanted Obsidian to make a sequel to Human Revolution, but there was a 'budgetary issue' and then Thief bombed, so SE decided to make it internally.

 

[undecaf]

According to Feargus, SE wanted Obsidian to make a sequel to Human Revolution, but there was a 'budgetary issue' and then Thief bombed, so SE decided to make it internally.

Looking at what happened with MD, that might've been a mistake on SE's part afterall...

 

[Jarpie]

According to Feargus, SE wanted Obsidian to make a sequel to Human Revolution, but there was a 'budgetary issue' and then Thief bombed, so SE decided to make it internally.

So in other words, Feargus inflated the budget so SE went "fuck that"?

 

[Sentinel]

MD was better than HR in every way. MD's fuck ups were all SE's doing. That marketing campaign was a monumental disaster.

 

[Turuko]

Obsidian could do the next Deus Ex game.

Makes no sense for MS to use an external IP
They have the Shadowrun IP collecting dust to give to Obsidian

 

[undecaf]

MD was better than HR in every way. MD's fuck ups were all SE's doing. That marketing campaign was a monumental disaster.

Be that as it may, Deus Ex is now (as far as I know) on an indefinite hiatus.

 

[Sentinel]

MD was better than HR in every way. MD's fuck ups were all SE's doing. That marketing campaign was a monumental disaster.

Be that as it may, Deus Ex is now (as far as I know) on an indefinite hiatus.

It'll get a revival if CP2077 is a success. I hope it gets handed to Eidos Montréal again, because they had some very passionate people, especially the Art Director. That dude was ace.

 

[<3sRichardSimmons]

MD was better than HR in every way. MD's fuck ups were all SE's doing. That marketing campaign was a monumental disaster.

Be that as it may, Deus Ex is now (as far as I know) on an indefinite hiatus.

It'll get a revival if CP2077 is a success. I hope it gets handed to Eidos Montréal again, because they had some very passionate people, especially the Art Director. That dude was ace.

You must be a pee fetishist. Only excuse for enjoying that godawful filter on everything.

 

[Fairfax]

Looking at what happened with MD, that might've been a mistake on SE's part afterall...

There's little about MD that could've been improved by Obsidian, and plenty that could've been worse. Not to mention Obsidian was busy with PoE, Tyranny, and AW at the time, so the project would have started without their top talent.

Also, as mentioned above, most of the game's problems were SE's fault anyway.

According to Feargus, SE wanted Obsidian to make a sequel to Human Revolution, but there was a 'budgetary issue' and then Thief bombed, so SE decided to make it internally.

So in other words, Feargus inflated the budget so SE went "fuck that"?

Either that or SE had lower than expected revenue and didn't want hire a third-party to develop the game for them.

 

[Quillon]

It'll get a revival if CP2077 is a success.

I think they are not doing a sequel partly cos there is CP77 looming about, why would Eidos(SE?) greenlight an AAA first person Deus Ex RPG atm only to be dwarfed by 77 and ridiculed by fans comparing it to 77? Even TOW is very lucky that they didn't finish CP77 earlier.

 

[LESS T_T]

I think there were some tweets by some (ex?) Square Enix guy saying how Feargus exaggerated the talk about Obsidian's DX. I forgot.

 

[Nano]

I think there were some tweets by some (ex?) Square Enix guy saying how Feargus exaggerated the talk about Obsidian's DX. I forgot.

Avellone said he exaggerated too. https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.p...archies-and-more.121588/page-177#post-5603582

Also, should probably say it on Mankind Divided: They weren't asking us to do all the content for the game, we were going to be asked to build a % of the game's levels with them, so please don't consider it as "hey, Obsidian could have done DX: MD." (Also, the writer, Mary DeMarle, Homeworld and DXHR is an amazing writer, so there wouldn't have been any need for writer resources, imo) - Anyway, as simple as the contract was, and as much as we needed income, Feargus could not get the deal signed despite how much we needed work to stay afloat.

 

[Sentinel]

Why's Homeworld name dropped after Mary DeMarle?

 

[Duraframe300]

Why's Homeworld name dropped after Mary DeMarle?

She helped write Homeworld 2.

 

[Sentinel]

Is it as good as the first one?

 

[Roguey]

There's little about MD that could've been improved by Obsidian, and plenty that could've been worse.

I am confident it could have had a better plot. I read a synopsis for MD's and it was so boring and "Why would I care about any of this?"

 

[Latro]

There's little about MD that could've been improved by Obsidian, and plenty that could've been worse.

I am confident it could have had a better plot. I read a synopsis for MD's and it was so boring and "Why would I care about any of this?"

HR had a completely dull story, I remember little except Tracer Tong being mowgli from the jungle book. HR only honored the soft-philosophical tone from DR with none of the likeable one-liners. Not sure why they didn't get Sheldon Pacotti back.

If I had to make an analogy, the DX series under Marie Demarle was like a cybernetic version of 24, while Pacotti's was classic X-Files.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

If Obsidian made HR/MD they'd have companions which would make it a better game

 

[Roguey]

HR had a completely dull story, I remember little except Tracer Tong being mowgli from the jungle book. HR only honored the soft-philosophical tone from DR with none of the likeable one-liners. Not sure why they didn't get Sheldon Pacotti back.

I liked the tale of Adam Jensen's angst, cuckolding, and revenge well enough. He (and thus I) had a personal stake in what was going on. With MD, there doesn't appear to be a personal stake.

And there were one-liners. "I didn't ask for this" and "Yeah, RIP" being the most meme'd among them.

 

[Nano]

If Obsidian made HR/MD they'd have companions which would make it a better game

Alpha Protocol didn't have companions, what makes you think Obsidian's Deus Ex would?

 

[Latro]

And there were one-liners.

Not enough good ones. JC was written to be simultaneously dead-pan and sarcastic, Adam felt monotone throughout.