Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Roguey]

It's not like RTTs and RTSes don't exist. I don't play them though cause you can't pause and issue orders.

 

[deuxhero]

I'd take actual real time over it.

Good news, you can ignore the pause in favor of slowing down time.

Yeah, I've always found the "RTwP sucks but just real-time is okay" thing to be bizarre.

I think what the people who say that actually mean is that they'd be okay with a sophisticated action-RPG where you control one character only (eg, Gothic, Dark Souls) or with a turn-based traditional CRPG with full party control, but not with a real-time traditional CRPG with full party control. Not sure, though.

In real time I have control over my character's movement, in turn based I have control over the whole party's movement, in real time with pause I can only vaguely direct the general direction of the entire party's movement and hope they do it right. Not a hard problem to understand.

 

[Infinitron]

In real time I have control over my character's movement

Okat, but that's not what "real time" means. If you mean single character action-RPG, then say that.

I could add a pause function to Gothic and presto, "real time with pause". Now you hate it?

 

[deuxhero]

How are they not real time?

 

[Infinitron]

How are they not real time?

You defined "real time games" as "games where I can control my character's movement". Shocking news to millions of RTS players.

Are you done being a sophist now?

 

[deuxhero]

Both are real time. Say to use something more specific, not that isn't somehow real time.

 

[Scruffy]

Assuming, you are the real Brandon Adler, welcome to The Codex!

Thanks. I have followed The Codex off and on over the years, but never posted. I just wanted to let you guys know that we do have people that pay attention to these threads, even if we are just quietly lurking most of the time.

did browsing these forums ever turn out to be useful, in any way?

 

[Delterius]

In real time I have control over my character's movement, in turn based I have control over the whole party's movement, in real time with pause I can only vaguely direct the general direction of the entire party's movement and hope they do it right. Not a hard problem to understand.

You are complaining about pathfinding issues, which are minimized in my RTSs because the paths themselves are fewer and generally much wider. Whenever the width is cut, however, the pathfinding issues you can get from those put BG's to shame.

 

[tuluse]

Both are real time. Say to use something more specific, not that isn't somehow real time.

You complaint has nothing to do with the ability to pause the game, that's why it's confusing.

 

[Roguey]

some designers get mad at me when i give characters names that aren't two syllable first name + one syllable last name and/or anything that isn't super obvious to pronounce i.e. common english/scottish/irish/welsh surnames found in america.

I for one enjoy Pallegina and Cadegund. Bland tastes at Obsidian Entertainment.

bug: paladin's "flames of devotion" ability adds +10000% damage instead of +100%. *hand quivers as cursor passes over "request waive"*

The things we do for balance.

 

[badler]

Assuming, you are the real Brandon Adler, welcome to The Codex!

Thanks. I have followed The Codex off and on over the years, but never posted. I just wanted to let you guys know that we do have people that pay attention to these threads, even if we are just quietly lurking most of the time.

did browsing these forums ever turn out to be useful, in any way?

Depends on what you mean, I guess. I don't think there has ever been a moment where we saw a post (or collection of posts) and immediately changed what we were doing, but sometimes seeing those posts can be the catalyst for a conversation.

 

[serch]

Depends on what you mean, I guess. I don't think there has ever been a moment where we saw a post (or collection of posts) and immediately changed what we were doing, but sometimes seeing those posts can be the catalyst for a conversation.

Yeah, conversations in front of a coffee machine joking about restraining orders

 

[DalekFlay]

MCA: "Josh the Codex is up in arms about spell cooldowns!"

JE Sawyer: "Hold on, let me distract them"

*Signs into Codex as Roguey*

*Posts a long rant about female armor and RtWP being superior*

JE Sawyer: "There we go."

 

[Jaesun]

There are cooldowns in Baldur's Gate.

 

[Infinitron]

There are cooldowns in Baldur's Gate.

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There aren't actually spell cooldowns in Pillars of Eternity...

 

[Aeschylus]

There are cooldowns in Baldur's Gate.

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There aren't actually spell cooldowns in Pillars of Eternity...

It's kind of true in a very broad sense of there being a cooldown between spell castings, which could be eliminated by the Improved Alacrity spell.

 

[Jaesun]

Lay of Hands has a 24 hour cooldown. Just sayin...

Anyways why in the fuck are people talking about cooldowns again? There are no cooldowns in Eternity.

 

[Infinitron]

No, because it doesn't actually come back if you wait for 24 hours without resting.

 

[Jagged Appliance]

Turn undead has a cooldown, kind of.

 

[tuluse]

There is a universal 6 second cooldown in IE games

 

[Grape_You_In_the_Mouth]

You guys are such a bunch of cooldowns.

 

[Arkeus]

There will be an update tomorrow morning.

Yay?

 

[Frusciante]

Where did you read that?

Btw, I think obsidians presentation starts about now. Saw on twitter from two guys that they're starting he day with pillars of eternity.

This guy: https://twitter.com/dantack and Angry Joe.

Also, this guy allready gave his (very short) impression on twitter: https://twitter.com/necrosofty

''Pillars of eternity: very traditional infinity engine rpg, lots of clicks and d&d influence, with choose your own adventure cutscenes.''

Edit, I´m bored, checking twitter for PoE updates...
https://twitter.com/austinat, ''My geek day at #E3: Warhammer 40k and now Pillars of Eternity look excellent. Bring a sweater to Pillars though, AC is strong there. ''

 

[Duraframe300]

https://twitter.com/austinat/status/476479297956229120

 

[Infinitron]

Duraframe300 Sensuki Roguey etc I'd appreciate it if you guys could gather as many snippets of information as possible about Obsidian's E3 demo.

Though I suppose the journalists will eventually do writeups about their impressions.