Obsidian's Pillars of Eternity [BETA RELEASED, GO TO THE NEW THREAD]

[Murk]

Uhm, and for the last part - I haven't. Magic (and magic items) have always been an after thought for me in D&D. I tend to play melee characters myself, and even when I make the whole party (a la IWD), I'm first deciding on an interesting party dynamic of personalities, then I'm deciding on what will best support my lead character (who was inevitably a paladin or a bard for the high charisma.)

My focus on magic items and magic spells was never "what will win this battle," it was "what would these character choose to memorize" and maybe, for the more tactically inclined leaders, "what would the party leader suggest they have to ensure party survivability."

Magic and spells were part of the background for me. I was used to D&D rules and understood them, so I didn't have a problem with them, per se, except, you know, the stuff my role-playing group would house rule. Like, well, Vancian magic.

... god has abandoned this world.

 

[Volrath]

Merin being a dumbfuck, news at 11.

 

[Jaesun]

Yeah. Dumbfucks gonna dumbfuck.

 

[Jarpie]

What a surprise, he's a larper.

 

[villain of the story]

Good show, Stillain of the Vory!
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60885-overreaction-theater/page__st__200#entry1221571

villain of the story FYI, latest news is that there will be no level scaling. http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/377480249010585532

Official interview says not only do they plan on implementing level scaling but also that level scaling is necessary to keep non-linear challenge.
Individual answer: wasn't planning on using it.

Yeah, I think I'll believe the latter since I totally got my priorities right.

Don't be an idiot.

Individual answer of the lead fucking designer versus interview with a clueless suit.

But okay, suit yourself.

It's Feargus vs. Sawyer. I would definltely agree that Feargus is a clueless suit but then again, he's the CEO, no?

At any rate, it will be entertaining when I'll be proven right, again, and you will eat your words: smug:

 

[J_C]

Good show, Stillain of the Vory!
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60885-overreaction-theater/page__st__200#entry1221571

villain of the story FYI, latest news is that there will be no level scaling. http://www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/377480249010585532

Official interview says not only do they plan on implementing level scaling but also that level scaling is necessary to keep non-linear challenge.
Individual answer: wasn't planning on using it.

Yeah, I think I'll believe the latter since I totally got my priorities right.

Don't be an idiot.

Individual answer of the lead fucking designer versus interview with a clueless suit.

But okay, suit yourself.

It's Feargus vs. Sawyer. I would definltely agree that Feargus is a clueless suit but then again, he's the CEO, no?

At any rate, it will be entertaining when I'll be proven right, again, and you will eat your words: smug:

Business lesson 101: It is not a CEO's duty to decide about individual game elements. That's what designers are for.

 

[suejak]

If you actually read them, you see that they agree. It might be "necessary" to maintain the difficulty-level of the main quest, so a bit of level scaling might be used, says Sawyer on his Formspring. But it wouldn't be necessary to use scaling anywhere else. Le fin.

Anyway, what is it about LARPers you guys dislke? Do you dislike roleplaying?

Is the cool attitude to have on the forum these days that CRPGs are fun because they have levels and experience points, but any sort of actual RP mentality is dorkly and uncool?

 

[SwiftCrack]

Uhm, and for the last part - I haven't. Magic (and magic items) have always been an after thought for me in D&D. I tend to play melee characters myself, and even when I make the whole party (a la IWD), I'm first deciding on an interesting party dynamic of personalities, then I'm deciding on what will best support my lead character (who was inevitably a paladin or a bard for the high charisma.)

My focus on magic items and magic spells was never "what will win this battle," it was "what would these character choose to memorize" and maybe, for the more tactically inclined leaders, "what would the party leader suggest they have to ensure party survivability."

Magic and spells were part of the background for me. I was used to D&D rules and understood them, so I didn't have a problem with them, per se, except, you know, the stuff my role-playing group would house rule. Like, well, Vancian magic.

... god has abandoned this world.

I bet he loved going through games with his mundane long sword and buckler.

 

[Jarpie]

If you actually read them, you see that they agree. It might be "necessary" to maintain the difficulty-level of the main quest, so a bit of level scaling might be used, says Sawyer on his Formspring. But it wouldn't be necessary to use scaling anywhere else. Le fin.

Anyway, what is it about LARPers you guys dislke? Do you dislike roleplaying?

Is the cool attitude to have on the forum these days that CRPGs are fun because they have levels and experience points, but any sort of actual RP mentality is dorkly and uncool?

Larpers in this case are for example Bethtards who steals guard uniform in Skyrim, "patrols" the walls and "roleplays" that he's one of the guards.

 

[Shannow]

If you actually read them, you see that they agree. It might be "necessary" to maintain the difficulty-level of the main quest, so a bit of level scaling might be used, says Sawyer on his Formspring. But it wouldn't be necessary to use scaling anywhere else. Le fin.

Anyway, what is it about LARPers you guys dislke? Do you dislike roleplaying?

Is the cool attitude to have on the forum these days that CRPGs are fun because they have levels and experience points, but any sort of actual RP mentality is dorkly and uncool?

 

[DraQ]

You have health in every game. GENERIC!

You can die in every game! GENERIC!

You have to press a bottun in every game! GENERIC!

 

[Infinitron]

You have health in every game. GENERIC!

You can die in every game! GENERIC!

You have to press a bottun in every game! GENERIC!

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60916-generic-fantasy-setting/page__st__40#entry1221919

People praise MoTB, but I liked the NWN2 OC far better.

 

[DraQ]

As for the cooldown discussion - we do have a thread for that, you know:
http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/cooldowns-the-bane-of-rpgs.75025/

 

[Shadenuat]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61000-critical-hits-misses-and-additional-effects/

Critical hits and misses diminish the importance of the players tactics and skill and increases the reliance on simple luck and I think that's a bad thing.

I don't want to get wiped out because a monster got a lucky shot in and blinded my fighter, forcing me to reload an old save, and then come back with the exact same tactics to win the battle. Or conversely, setting up a brilliant tactic only for it not to matter because I got a lucky critical that stunned my opponent, trivializing the whole encounter.

Er... was that sarcasm too?

 

[wormix]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60905-stick-to-your-guns-devs/page__st__80#entry1221973

It does have to do with sexual repression, most minorities are sexual repressed, because they are minorities, not many people want to have sex with them. This is one of the reasons, IMO for all this parades and fights for rights, they don't like that there aren't many people with the same sexual desires as them.

Wat?

 

[DraQ]

I can't handle so much dumb.

 

[Infinitron]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60905-stick-to-your-guns-devs/page__st__80#entry1221973

It does have to do with sexual repression, most minorities are sexual repressed, because they are minorities, not many people want to have sex with them. This is one of the reasons, IMO for all this parades and fights for rights, they don't like that there aren't many people with the same sexual desires as them.

Wat?

"Troller"

 

[tuluse]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/60905-stick-to-your-guns-devs/page__st__80#entry1221973

It does have to do with sexual repression, most minorities are sexual repressed, because they are minorities, not many people want to have sex with them. This is one of the reasons, IMO for all this parades and fights for rights, they don't like that there aren't many people with the same sexual desires as them.

Wat?

Edit: oh god that entire quote tree is insane.

 

[Shadenuat]

It does have to do with sexual repression, most minorities are sexual repressed, because they are minorities, not many people want to have sex with them.

It's like a Confusion spell. I just failed my Will check and lost all actions, and just stare at the screen trying to understand what just happened.

 

[evdk]

"Troller"

Is Nigro FYI.

 

[Duraframe300]

http://www.xp4t.com/2012/10/03/project-eternity/

XP4T:How has the Kickstarter experience influenced the direction of the game so far?
JoshSawyer: Listening to feedback from the fans has helped us realize that people can be pretty polarized on what they want, even among a group of people ostensibly united by a love of the same games. For us, that means prioritizing options is important. If people don’t like a certain aspect of how skill checks are presented or how combat works, we should give them the ability to turn that off, resources permitting.

XP4T: Souls as the source of magic, and energy. Is it far out to imagine pits of humans thrown together in order to harvest their energy for dark purposes?
Josh Sawyer: No, it isn’t too far out! That’s actually something we like about the soul concept. It lends itself to interesting ideas of how societies might function based on the reality of souls being a source of power. One idea we’ve discussed is the idea of a culture where those in power control the economic environment of the populace to such an extent that people literally sell their souls (in a fashion) to free themselves or their families from crippling debt.

XP4T: 1.5 million is certainly no small amount of money, how does it feel to get THAT much backing?
Josh Sawyer: It’s fantastic. We’re really excited to see where the funding winds up, but we’re confident we can make something awesome with the backing we’ve received so far. The response from the community has been amazing.
Kickstarter makes things very personal with future players, how do you deal with the requests and feedback and demands? Do you feel obliged to follow them?
We try to read as much feedback in as many different places as possible, on the Obsidian forums as well as places like RPG Codex, NeoGAF, Something Awful, Penny Arcade, and others. There’s a broad spectrum of responses, but I think we’ve been doing this long enough to know how to sort a signal out of the noise. There will always be outliers, people who want really specific things that fall outside of the scope and focus of the project. In those cases, the best thing we can do is politely let them know that we’re going in a different direction.
For the people who are talking about things that can go one way or another and do fall within the scope of what we’re doing, we try to think about the pros and cons of what they’re talking about. Often, we’re already doing something in line with what they’re thinking. In other cases, we can give the person the feeling that’s behind what they’re saying without actually doing what they’re saying.
As developers, we need to put effort into interpreting a variety of desires and opinions and synthesizing the best solution for the game. That best solution is only rarely a “somewhere in the middle” answer to the debate, but we do try to take in the full spectrum of feedback.

 

[wormix]

Is Nigro FYI.

My thinking is he's actually that dumb.

 

[Cynic]

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/61000-critical-hits-misses-and-additional-effects/

Critical hits and misses diminish the importance of the players tactics and skill and increases the reliance on simple luck and I think that's a bad thing.

I don't want to get wiped out because a monster got a lucky shot in and blinded my fighter, forcing me to reload an old save, and then come back with the exact same tactics to win the battle. Or conversely, setting up a brilliant tactic only for it not to matter because I got a lucky critical that stunned my opponent, trivializing the whole encounter.

Er... was that sarcasm too?

The dumbfuckery of these people is unbelievable. Are they all BSN refugees?

 

[evdk]

They are all cranial amputees.

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.xp4t.com/2012/10/03/project-eternity/

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